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Baz 08-06-2020 11:49 AM

For the first time in my life, I'm going to do a mail in ballot. I just got off the phone with the election office and requested it.

I told the lady I didn't trust anyone these days, but have to start somewhere, given the mess from the pandemic and how crazy it's going to be at the voting precincts.

Online sounds nice but I'm afraid right now mail-in seems a lot more secure.

This also from a monthly SS recipient - and they haven't messed anything up from day 1!

stevej37 08-06-2020 12:00 PM

The safety precautions are available.
If they want a larger voter turn-out..the answer is make it easier to vote.

Brando 08-06-2020 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 10976296)
The safety precautions are available.
If they want a larger voter turn-out..the answer is make it easier to vote.

I have VPN. I wonder how many ballots I could cast.

Online is not secure. In-person with an ID check is best. Absentee second, with notary certification.

stevej37 08-06-2020 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Brando (Post 10976303)
I have VPN. I wonder how many ballots I could cast.

Online is not secure. In-person with an ID check is best. Absentee second, with notary certification.


How many people (other than you) use your bank account online? Why does that work?

stevej37 08-06-2020 12:30 PM

Voter turnout-out will never increase until they make it easy to vote.
The antiquated rules of voting are never going to help.
My vote will not be recorded until I can do it easily.

stomachmonkey 08-06-2020 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 10976260)
You gonna get into 2 factor authentication for voting? I'm all for it! Before fully logged in you have to enter not only your unique identifier but a code that is sent by email or text that is only good for 10 minutes.

Authenticator app.

Rolling 6 digit code, only lasts 30 seconds.

Use one with all my sensitive accounts.

cabmandone 08-06-2020 12:51 PM

The internet; If it's good enough for porn... it's good enough for votin!

stomachmonkey 08-06-2020 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brando (Post 10976303)
I have VPN. I wonder how many ballots I could cast.

Online is not secure. In-person with an ID check is best. Absentee second, with notary certification.

You can do the same ID check online.

cabmandone 08-06-2020 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 10976357)
Authenticator app.

Rolling 6 digit code, only lasts 30 seconds.

Use one with all my sensitive accounts.

Oh sweet Jesus. I can only imagine the Captcha images Nooooooooooooo!

stevej37 08-06-2020 12:56 PM

How can I go online and transfer thousands of dollars...but yet I can't vote online??

Ralph3. 08-06-2020 12:57 PM

Mail in works great, WA state has been mail in since 2011.

stevej37 08-06-2020 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ralph3. (Post 10976372)
Mail in works great, WA state has been mail in since 2011.

One step closer to online...but still out-of-date

rwest 08-06-2020 01:11 PM

I don’t have a problem with online voting being secure, but as many have said you would get a greater voter turnout which may or may not be good for society, but it sure isn’t good for people trying to get elected.

If I was running or trying to keep my place, the less people voting would mean I would have to get less people to vote for me to turn it in my favor. The people in office know this and since they are the ones trying to stay in office and also are the ones that would have to change the system...

MysticLlama 08-06-2020 01:13 PM

The WA state ballots have a code so you can go online and check that your vote was counted.

I don't see why a first step couldn't be sending me that code via USPS as they already do, and I use that + DL# or something to authenticate and log in to cast my vote online. The USPS remains in the process, but not on the return side.

cabmandone 08-06-2020 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 10976371)
How can I go online and transfer thousands of dollars...but yet I can't vote online??

I say we do it! But it's your job to teach all the 70 somethings out there how to do it. I've had my fill just helping my parents with their Iphones.

stomachmonkey 08-06-2020 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 10976363)
Oh sweet Jesus. I can only imagine the Captcha images Nooooooooooooo!

No Capthca's

Same as entering a code texted to you except they are generated on the fly every 30 seconds and synced with the site so if you go to use it and the code expires in 5 seconds just wait 6 seconds for a new code.

Tobra 08-06-2020 01:27 PM

Whether or not any of us are for or against it is really immaterial. If it can be turned to the advantage of the people in a position to make the change, it will happen.

stevej37 08-06-2020 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 10976405)
Whether or not any of us are for or against it is really immaterial. If it can be turned to the advantage of the people in a position to make the change, it will happen.


So...without getting political..why hasn't it happened??
Are no votes worth more than any votes?

spuggy 08-06-2020 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 10976260)
You gonna get into 2 factor authentication for voting? I'm all for it! Before fully logged in you have to enter not only your unique identifier but a code that is sent by email or text that is only good for 10 minutes.

Good basic idea, useless implementation. Neither email nor SMS is secure. And it's quite terrifying the # of people - including banks - that think they are...

For MFA, use OATH or FIDO - if you don't want a hardware dongle, some password managers store the hash encrypted and generate the token themselves.

stevej37 08-06-2020 02:13 PM

^^^ You never do online banking??


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