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stevej37 08-06-2020 10:39 AM

online voting
 
In this day of covid distancing, why are we still stuck with the same old voting booths?
No reason (that I can see) why we don't move on to on-line voting.
If a person (like myself) can go online and sign-up for a $2K SS payment for every month the rest of my life.....maybe it's time to consider voting online can be secure. The voting rate would automatically double.

Any arguments for or against?
I don't think this would be a political question...it involves all the same.

Bugsinrugs 08-06-2020 10:45 AM

One of the issues is access to the internet. It’s a problem for students that stay home and are expected to take online classes. That’s my take anyway.

fastfredracing 08-06-2020 10:45 AM

I don't think anyone anywhere would trust that to be free from tampering .I for one would not

Porsche-O-Phile 08-06-2020 10:46 AM

The only thing out there that’s less secure than the mail.

stevej37 08-06-2020 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 10976194)
The only thing out there that’s less secure than the mail.

But it's secure enough for me to order my $1900/month soc sec payment with no questions asked??

Steve Carlton 08-06-2020 10:50 AM

The Russians would like it.

stevej37 08-06-2020 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 10976199)
The Russians would like it.

If I ever miss a ss payment....I'll blame them!

Steve Carlton 08-06-2020 10:59 AM

ivanj37 is a pelican here.

stevej37 08-06-2020 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by fastfredracing (Post 10976192)
I don't think anyone anywhere would trust that to be free from tampering .I for one would not

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I would have no problem with it...if it was verified through the same checks that a bank would make. Way more chance of error the way it is.

stevej37 08-06-2020 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 10976215)
ivanj37 is a pelican here.

Ivan is Maxim.....I trust him!

cabmandone 08-06-2020 11:25 AM

I've been thinking a lot about this lately. I think it would take everyone registering to vote again with the federal government providing a federal voter ID number that is only used for voting. We can't use our Social Security numbers as identifiers for online voting because the system it too compromised. Most without internet access could vote by going to a library or go old school and vote in person. Then there's the whole hacking problem to be addressed but we should have the people available to secure the system. If not that's a pretty damning statement about where we stand as a nation.

stevej37 08-06-2020 11:26 AM

Those who say the internet is not secure enough....are the same who trust the internet for their banking transactions.
The same safeguards could be easily implemented for voting.

Porsche-O-Phile 08-06-2020 11:28 AM

And which low-bid contractor would you trust to handle that? The same ones that gave us such wonderful security as used by yahoo! Citibank, etc.?

stevej37 08-06-2020 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 10976252)
And which low-bid contractor would you trust to handle that? The same ones that gave us such wonderful security as used by yahoo! Citibank, etc.?

The same as your bank.

fastfredracing 08-06-2020 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 10976250)
Those who say the internet is not secure enough....are the same who trust the internet for their banking transactions.
The same safeguards could be easily implemented for voting.

The thing is, I know if I got scammed online banking. Either I did not get my monies, or the other party did not get funds I sent .
No way of really knowing or trusting that the vote I cast was counted, or hundreds of thousands of votes from others were legit.
Do you really truly believe that this could not be corrupted ?

cabmandone 08-06-2020 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 10976250)
Those who say the internet is not secure enough....are the same who trust the internet for their banking transactions.
The same safeguards could be easily implemented for voting.

You gonna get into 2 factor authentication for voting? I'm all for it! Before fully logged in you have to enter not only your unique identifier but a code that is sent by email or text that is only good for 10 minutes.

stevej37 08-06-2020 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by fastfredracing (Post 10976258)
The thing is, I know if I got scammed online banking. Either I did not get my monies, or the other party did not get funds I sent .
No way of really knowing or trusting that the vote I cast was counted, or hundreds of thousands of votes from others were legit

Same as todays voting...without the covid exposure.

stevej37 08-06-2020 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 10976260)
You gonna get into 2 factor authentication for voting? I'm all for it! Before fully logged in you have to enter not only your unique identifier but a code that is sent by email or text that is only good for 10 minutes.

sounds good to me. I detest the voting booths in my area. Wait a half hour in a hot smelly wood shack. I will never go there again.

Scott Douglas 08-06-2020 11:41 AM

I've been voting by absentee ballot (mail-in) for a lot of years. Works just fine for me.
As long as the post office doesn't get de-funded and snail mail really gets slower than it already is, it'll work just fine.
I don't think enough voters have access to the internet that internet voting would be a good thing.
And yes, I get my SS payment just like you do via the internet.

stevej37 08-06-2020 11:44 AM

^^^ Yes, the technology is there and ready.
Why we haven't moved on to it....I don't know.


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