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Here is another good what do you do situation ?

My shop neighbors a Church. They have 5 really ugly pine trees that hang out over the roof of my shop.
One of them fell, it is tangled in the other trees, but coming down on my roof any day now .
I called them a month ago, and my father spoke with the pastor personally over a month ago. The pastor said he would take care of it . The pastor lives on site, and the church is 100 yards from my shop .
When I called, I offered to split the cost with them . I thought that fair? Am I out of line ?
I was just out test driving an 87 Carrera, and noticed , that tree is going through my roof in the next week or so. It is really leaning , and the only thing holding it from crashing through my roof is a few rotten dead branches on the tree next to it . Looks dangerous
I guess, I should send them a letter in writing to cma? .
I mean, Ill take a new roof, but Id rather not it get all messy with the Church, and insurance companies .
That tree falling on my truck a few years back really opened up my eyes to these situations . $500.00 would make this problem go away.
I am almost willing to pay for it all , but they are not my trees, and not really my business to cut them down without permission, and there are also power lines tangled up in them, so we need some professionals with insurance .
One more call? , a polite knock on his door this afternoon? , or let the chips fall where they may?

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Old 08-22-2020, 06:48 AM
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Call the power company, if their lines are in danger of coming down they will remove the tree.
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How about a call to your insurance company? They might be interested in righting the situation before it costs them money.
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Old 08-22-2020, 07:07 AM
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Call the power company, if their lines are in danger of coming down they will remove the tree.
yup,but make sure they know that the next breeze is likely to make it worse. Since the last TS blew thru here the power company and arborists have been here every day.
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Church collections are down due to COVID. One face to face conversation maybe? Pay for it and consider it a debt he can repay late (or not).
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That situation would push my buttons for sure.

I’d go to church Sunday, stand up and speak my mind - with humility. Maybe drop some scripture about procrastinating. (James’ 4-17?)

the Lord works in mysterious ways, and apparently also very slowly
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I would take down the tree(s) that are in imminent danger of falling. Then tell him he owes you half, not immediately, but eventually.

If he pays up you are good. If he doesn't, no big deal.

And tell him God is watching.
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If you do nothing the aggravation is going to more than 500 bucks.

I would talk to them and if they are short of funds I would have the job done and chalk the cost up to charity or a business expense.
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I would take down the tree(s) that are in imminent danger of falling. Then tell him he owes you half, not immediately, but eventually.

If he pays up you are good. If he doesn't, no big deal.

And tell him God is watching.
God is watching, I like that .
Kind of an odd fellow. I don't think he likes me. I have snow plowed their parking lot for free for 20 years. Never once, a thank you . He is always pretty standoffish. I wave to him every time I see him, he rarely waves back.
Strange people those Christians .
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Be the last in the congregation to get the tithings dish. Then take it and say, “thanks preach, I’ll bring you back any change”.

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Anybody remember this thread ?
My neighbor made the news.
Yep, thats them
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I would take down the tree(s) that are in imminent danger of falling. Then tell him he owes you half, not immediately, but eventually.

If he pays up you are good. If he doesn't, no big deal.

And tell him God is watching.
But FF will have the exposure if something bad happens no? Shouldn’t the church be on board from the start?

Like if the power line snaps, the church can say, “not me (my child) thine neighbor was trespassing “.
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Looking for a silver lining - if you pay for removal, might you be able to deduct it as a charitable contribution?
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Something tells me the cost to you of it falling on your roof would far exceed the current $500 est on getting it taken care of now.

God is watching both of you on this one.
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Since it's their property, they are responsible.
Propose to them that you will pay to have professionals remove the tree, and in return you get a statement from them showing it as a charitable contribution.

They should jump at that quickly.
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Since it's their property, they are responsible.
Propose to them that you will pay to have professionals remove the tree, and in return you get a statement from them showing it as a charitable contribution.

They should jump at that quickly.
That my friend, is a great idea.
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Hard to know what the church's financial status is.

I've seen some that have TONS of money but are very careful how they spend it.

Others are barely getting by.

Then there are all those in between.

Point being - I wouldn't necessarily let them off the hook financially unless you have some inside info to go on - such as through direct convo with the pastor.

Since you have already had the conversation with the pastor/church about getting the tree removed - without any resistance - I would go into "persistence mode". Meaning call the pastor, talk in person to him, and/or email/write a letter to him ASAP and make sure you emphasize - THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE NOW.

If you see progress - fine.

If not - go at it again with him. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. Amen.

I'd stay on it every day of the week until something gets done.

If you have someone who can take the tree down, all you need is to get him and the pastor together. Then persist as noted.

Next issue is the money. Make sure if it's someone you know doing the job they get a deposit. I know that sounds a bit rude but it's all part of the deal.

Business is business.

A tree falling on your shop roof is not something anyone wants.

Get on it, Fred......good luck, buddy!
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Do you have pics....if not, take some. Here, unless there is neglect (dead tree, etc.), any damage or removal on your side of the property line is yours to deal with (including your insurance co.). If the tree is healthy....it's all on you, if unhealthy, document with pics and a letter...

....and pray

Good luck Fred!
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All of these trees are dead , have been dead for years now . That is why I reached out to the church.
I learned about all this stuff when my neighbors tree fell on my tow truck project 2 years ago . I had to really fight to get them to pay for it , and learned a lot about how this plays out. and how the insurance companies assign blame .
I got those rotten mothers to pay up . 6 thousand dollar a year policy, and they tried to squirrell out out of a 3500 dollar repair on an item , that was clearly covered according to the wording in my policy . Then I dropped them
I hate to fight, but when I am right, I am right
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How much time has passed since talking to the Minister ?

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