Fill for laneway
 

Seeing we all know about pulling stumps ...... what would you use to fill holes in my laneway? It appears to be gravel. The holes hold water and then get muddy.
It sucks that a day after it rains there is still mud and I have to drive my Porsches through it.
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AB.

aggregate Base

Crushed limestone - #411 (AKA Chips and Dust).

My driveway is 1/2 mile in length, plus spurs to the barns, etc.

When we moved here the road was a mess: Bank and run and rougher that the Baja 500. After a heavy rain it was like driving in Guatemala.

Slight hyperbole:)

I went with 3/4 inch stones because they very cheap here. When there was a local gravel pit they charged me $5.00 dollars a ton.

I have it to the point where maintenance is very easy and the road can be snow plowed. Since I snow plow, I do keep the blade up a tad.

The road sees a lot and holds up remarkably well.

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I remember that driveway!

Still a great looking farm Paul.

3 choices. lol
I am just filling holes, not making a new laneway.
Here is what my local place can deliver. Or I'll just get a few bags.

https://www.ggconline.ca/we-deliver/

Thirty feet or 1/2 mile, doesn't matter. I'd start with the gravel then cover with the 3/8 clear stone.

Get more than you think you'll need. There is a lot of repair to be made, at least as I see it.

crusher run!!!
I have different stuff on different parts of my driveway.
3/4", 1/2", and crusher run.
Weeds grow up through everything but the crusher run.
Gravel moves around a bit, even after it settles, forming more puddles.
Crusher run packs down like concrete. No weeds and no puddles.

The existing surface looks to be round pea gravel. It will sink into mud, move around, and get kicked up by tires and chip car paint.

I think using crushed limestone alone needs to be compacted, doesn't have a hard wear surface, and being on the soft side may eventually shift like sand.

Aggregate base (aka 3/4") is large and irregular-shaped. It settles and locks into place eventually. Rolling it will provide the best result. Building it up higher will provide consistent drainage. It looks like several types of stone material is used for it.
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I used to have a 3/4" crushed concrete drive..which was sharp and hell on bare feet and dog paws..but provided superior traction for a slippery hill during the winter.

It was not compacted.

I finally asphalted it because the snowblower turned into a machine gun pelting neighboring houses and cars.
Grass also grew fast in that particular formula. Probably no base.

I have baaad news - it looks like there is an inadequate base

that means you need to excavate, and not just the hole either

the good news: there is likely no need to go deeper than 3-4 ft.

crusher run.

Clean out the dirt/mud, throw some filter fabric on the bottom.

Funny you say that. A friend is a landscaper and quoted me $6,000 to do just that.

Be much much cheaper just to pave it, but it's a snowmobile access to the lake and the cardbides would do a number on it.

Why is it holding up fine for my neighbour to the left?

Low spot, turn in/around, soft foot, poor drainage?
Get some 25mm crush gravel. Level and compact. Keep a pile to keep dressing it as it sinks. It has to stop sinking sometime!

Here, recycled crushed concrete is almost free... Compacted well it pretty much turns back into solid concrete.

do you know the soil conditions for him? or the underlayment?

I just made a guess based on "Keswick/Ontario" and your pics - hope I guessed wrong...

you may be on lake sediments; there could a slight ridge of rock he's on, etc.

I think the pictures are a little deceiving. The laneway is very compacted and hard. I tried hitting it with a spade and it could barely scratch the surface. The holes are maybe 1/4" deep, but water will sit in them and then the water will collect dirt/leaves that is blowing around in the air and turn to mud.
I think this happened because the little sh#t renters next door use it to do doughnuts on their mini atv's. The same ones that used my dining room table as a dock before the waves destroyed it.

3/4 plant mix. Crushed granite is what we use on the town roads here.
Since we (the town) switched to crushed granite we hardly have a mud season any more.
My driveway used to always get muddy in the spring.......not any more.

well, you could just fill it

or excavate xx feet wide across the lane, then fill that

what are the stds. for a low use road there? like in town, a residential street or collector? - that should be more than you need to do

What about this stuff? I'm just filling the potholes so they don't pool.
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That’s fine, we’re just telling you to order a dump truck load of it, get a box blade and address the whole driveway.

Is a laneway similar to a henway only heavier?

Why do we park on driveways and drive on parkways?

My part is 50' x 12'. Not doing the neighbours.
I'm thinking about ordering 3 yards. It will suck spreading it by hand though.

5/8 minus gravel,,,,,,,,,,packs in well

You could use a little thickness and a little crown. Buy the whole truckload. It's cheap and you need it.

I've only built several hundred of those....

rent a Kubota with a blade

just a heads up, i've seen DGA come with pieces of metal embedded in it. various masonry products.

Out of that list you need what they call "crusher run" which looks like what is called 411 every place else. It packs down and stays in place.

For an extra $2 a yard our local truck driver will spread it for you. He opens the tailgate a few inches and raises the bed and drives off. He does a pretty even job of spreading it. I'm sure he's not the only dump truck driver who does that.

You need to dig out the hole, put in 304's as a base and compact. Then 411 and compact. Then top with your choice. If you just dump the stone in the hole, it will come back.

I don't recall if I topped mine with 6's or 8's but don't do that! The damn little stones get stuck in your shoes and they push around because they don't compact. I'd do 411 1/2's for a top.

Another good option to fill is asphalt grindings.

Better yet, find a truck with a hydraulic gate. The old school pop and drop is sloppy by comparison. With a hydraulic gate you can set the chains, raise the bed, pop the gate and drive off. Makes for a cleaner job.

Dig until you hit the Canadian Shield


or Bouclier Canadienne (she's a bit thick but hey!)

Get a full load, with compacting, full deal.
Have the neighbors go in on the costs.
(it would benefit them as well and be consistent)

Who owns the street? That might be the determinant.

Around here a small truckload holds 4 yds and that's the minimum they'll deliver.... the drivers are pretty good at raising the bed and letting it slide out.

4 yds isn't much either ....

Unless it's 1 yd at a time in yer pickup and you're shoveling.... like I just did for sandrock fill in my back yard :D

Seriously AB.

you can compact it fairly well.

I second the crushed concrete vote. It’s the cheapest option here also and works great

From experience, I would like to have a pile of stone at the end of the driveway for random holes/fill/washouts. Buying by the bag is heavy, and expensive.

I'll second the notion to get more than you think you need.

I get that every spring when the snow thaws! :D

Clay 3/4” crushed gravel mix is what you need.

Funny/not so funny story at my last house.
I ordered a load of 3/4 stone for my 40ft driveway.
Driveway was on a big enough slope that you couldn't really chase a basketball if you dropped it.
I asked the driver to start at the top and try to drop the load evenly for the 40 ft.
He's like sure, I can do that no problem. He lifts the bed while at the top and starts rolling down the hill. Nothing comes out until he gets to the bottom and it all dumps.
Stupid ass. Almost killed me hand bombing it back up.

That is when it is time to go rent a bobcat. Machines can make life a lot easier.

This is the Pelican driveway 'while you're in there' posting.