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RWebb 11-05-2020 03:04 PM

Who Wants to Move to Indiana?
 
https://www.dwell.com/article/the-andrew-armstrong-house-frank-lloyd-wright-john-howe-ogden-dunes-real-estate-febd9411

Sooner or later 11-05-2020 03:07 PM

I would take it.

LEAKYSEALS951 11-05-2020 03:22 PM

Envision your car parked here:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1604621990.jpg


"the property was well kept until 2020, when "leakyseals" bought it and the house fell into neglect. The driveway was covered in oil puddles in short order. The driveway currently under superfund review."

vash 11-05-2020 04:17 PM

Nice digs!

look 171 11-05-2020 04:44 PM

I am being anal, but that tile in the kitchen ruined the house. Those cabinets too, I think.

That just seem so cheap for a FLW house. I wonder if I buy it, will they allow me to take it apart (I promise I will number all pieces) and ship it to LA and plopped it near my home and sell it for 5 times as much? I know the a perfect lot within walking distance.

ckelly78z 11-06-2020 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 11091469)
I am being anal, but that tile in the kitchen ruined the house. Those cabinets too, I think.

That just seem so cheap for a FLW house. I wonder if I buy it, will they allow me to take it apart (I promise I will number all pieces) and ship it to LA and plopped it near my home and sell it for 5 times as much? I know the a perfect lot within walking distance.

Enjoy it in Indiana, or don't bother with it. I think it looks just fine where it is. While the cabinets are not my style, I can't imagine tearing them out.

GH85Carrera 11-06-2020 06:19 AM

All the pretty picture and not one of the garage. It better have a 4 or 5 car garage with heated floors and a lift for me want to move there.

It looks like just a car-port and no garage. I don't want to live there. No way.

pavulon 11-06-2020 07:40 AM

Isn't it sorta rough to pick apart stuff by icons like FLW? I'd have to imagine that he would admit that it's not perfect but taken as a whole, it seems pretty awesome.

GH85Carrera 11-06-2020 07:46 AM

No doubt is is a really great looking house. Tastes change but his work is pretty much always at the top of great design.

Except the garage area. The garage usually sucks.

vash 11-06-2020 08:09 AM

i actually like it.

it is a bit, "boom chaka bow wow" with the 70's theme. but it works. imagine any other kitchen in it and it wouldnt work.

BUT..i was up on my roof (flat roof) cleaning up some leaves with a headlamp on, and a flashlight clenched in my teeth. THIS MORNING, at zero dark thirty. that flat roof has way too many desiduuas..desi..ahh..trees that drop leaves! for my liking.

but 1.2 million is very good priced no?

look 171 11-06-2020 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ckelly78z (Post 11091734)
Enjoy it in Indiana, or don't bother with it. I think it looks just fine where it is. While the cabinets are not my style, I can't imagine tearing them out.

Frank Lloyd Wright would never use those tiles or who ever approve those tile in a later remodel has no clue. Those cabinets are acceptable. These are historical landmarks and they should be taken with the utmost care.

I am only kidding about moving it to CA. But given that if it can legally, I am sure there are people that will do it in a heart beat. I shoulda done that in green

Porsche-O-Phile 11-06-2020 08:20 AM

Beautiful and I’d personally love it but those sorts of houses are not without their problems. I had a good friend of mine in graduate school who lived in FLW’s Tomek House in Riverside Illinois (considered to be a “testing ground” for the Robbie House; so it experiments with a lot of the same design approaches). It was beautiful but the insulation was terrible by today’s standards, the scale was “FLW-characteristically” small (low headroom, very small entries and passages, etc.) For those that aren’t aware, Wright was known to design using HIMSELF as the standard for how much space was needed for things, not “average” human dimensions or his clients - and he was on the short / thin side. It was NOT low-maintenance by any means and required a dedicated owner that had the time (and money) to keep up with it. Also consider that many are on the National Register of Historic Places which SERIOUSLY limits what can be done in / to it and makes ANY upkeep or change a huge PITA (and expensive) to deal with.

I would LOVE to own a Wright home myself but they’re definitely not for the casual or uncommitted. The details are amazing in every one I’ve ever been in (you find something new every time you’re in one) and the level of thoughtfulness / craftsmanship is always very high. I hope it goes to a worthy owner that can appreciate it for what it is rather than someone with a fat wallet looking for a trophy. The latter type is setting themselves up for disappointment and headaches - the former for endless pleasure.

I can’t see myself ever being able to live in Indiana though - nothing against people there. I’m spoiled on warmth and perfect weather now, not to mention the ocean. No plans to ever leave. :)

look 171 11-06-2020 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 11092208)
Beautiful and I’d personally love it but those sorts of houses are not without their problems. I had a good friend of mine in graduate school who lived in FLW’s Tomek House in Riverside Illinois (considered to be a “testing ground” for the Robbie House; so it experiments with a lot of the same design approaches). It was beautiful but the insulation was terrible by today’s standards, the scale was “FLW-characteristically” small (low headroom, very small entries and passages, etc.) For those that aren’t aware, Wright was known to design using HIMSELF as the standard for how much space was needed for things, not “average” human dimensions or his clients - and he was on the short / thin side. It was NOT low-maintenance by any means and required a dedicated owner that had the time (and money) to keep up with it. Also consider that many are on the National Register of Historic Places which SERIOUSLY limits what can be done in / to it and makes ANY upkeep or change a huge PITA (and expensive) to deal with.

I would LOVE to own a Wright home myself but they’re definitely not for the casual or uncommitted. The details are amazing in every one I’ve ever been in (you find something new every time you’re in one) and the level of thoughtfulness / craftsmanship is always very high. I hope it goes to a worthy owner that can appreciate it for what it is rather than someone with a fat wallet looking for a trophy. The latter type is setting themselves up for disappointment and headaches - the former for endless pleasure.

I can’t see myself ever being able to live in Indiana though - nothing against people there. I’m spoiled on warmth and perfect weather now, not to mention the ocean. No plans to ever leave. :)

I can't agree with you more. All of them including the Greene and Greene I had the pleasure of tearing my hair out while working on it (not because of the work, but dealing with the historical jobless nut cases and the owner who's unwilling to pay based on the demands of the historical people). I also did all of the interior of Chemosphere. Again the architect and the owners were not too fun. I like Lauter's design.

Forgot to add, let someone else deal with the head aches, so we can walk by and enjoy it, just like many of the Victorians we have here in LA. I grew up about about a mile near Carrol Ave where all the Victorian are. I hone my finish carpentry skill working for a guy who restored them when I was in college. He would sit on one for a couple years going through it. I get called in to fab up what he can't buy and install it. I had a shaper so I had access to custom knifes to create matching molding when needed. I was a slave to that guy but working on just one house would put me through more then a couple years of college with plenty of play money up in Mammoth and a new sports car.

RWebb 11-06-2020 09:38 AM

Thing to do is to build a FLW "tribute" replica with modern materials in a nice place.

john70t 11-06-2020 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11092167)
Except the garage area. The garage usually sucks.

Yes to that. Automobiles are serviced with white gloves at the dealership obviously. Or everything is delivered by assistants on call. A man well before his Amazon/GrubHub time. A phone and credit card are the only tools required.

And those flat roofs are attractive but they do carry a lot of snow load. There is a crossover in terms of visual vs. practicality. I do like it though.

Easy to design those structures in CAD. All squares and few angles make for easy trim construction. Just overlap and it's done.
The right stain and poly on pine will also fake the cedar pretty well.

Indiana also has some nice Prairie/Green&Green/FLW/whatever the flat blockish 1970s modern style is called.
Much of it was borrowed from the Japanese temples.

varmint 11-06-2020 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 11092306)
Thing to do is to build a FLW "tribute" replica with modern materials in a nice place.



yes,

i think the detailed plans are floating around out there.

flipper35 11-06-2020 11:07 AM

.31 acres and no garage! I would bid $50k. Nah, $40k.

tcar 11-06-2020 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vash (Post 11092196)
i actually like it.

it is a bit, "boom chaka bow wow" with the 70's theme. but it works. imagine any other kitchen in it and it wouldnt work.

70's theme, in 1939?
Kitchen done in the 60's.

stevej37 11-06-2020 11:56 AM

after the last pic..it says it has a two stall garage and additional parking area.

cstreit 11-06-2020 06:20 PM

Exterior is amazing. The interior just doesn’t seem like his usual does it?


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