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sugarwood 11-13-2020 12:46 PM

Hire someone to clean your roof once a year.
That's what old people do.

plain fan 11-13-2020 01:00 PM

I vote go for it! I do second the comments regarding the price of construction materials right now. I would also warn about the availability and the cost of hiring people to do the work. Due to the housing boom, I can't find anyone to do a drywall job for me. And I've been looking for months. The drywall guys only want to do large jobs and aren't even returning calls unless it's for an entire house or apartment complex.

Captain Ahab Jr 11-13-2020 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ckelly78z (Post 11101449)
Wow, I love that new concept design, and can see the transformation would be a large undertaking, but maybe Captain Ahab Jr. could help out with the stone work, and install a driveway rotisserie for you ???

:D Mrs Ahab is who you need for the stone work!

What a transformation, that's more than remodel :eek: but I think the house as it is now looks great

DanielDudley 11-14-2020 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 908/930 (Post 11101816)
One thing about building right now is the the amount materials have gone up in the last 10 months, priced a 2x4x10 lately? It will go back down not sure when.

Labor to do that rendering would be even more than materials. When you remodel, you need to look for the low hanging fruit, and concentrate on what will make your life better living in the house. You don't need to impress the neighbors to improve your living arrangements unless you have money to burn.

Do you really want to be a slave to a house payment, or do you want to have a house so you can have a secure base for living a full life? Sacrificing a year of your life to get a great house is one thing, working OT for the next 10 years to pay for it is another. If you have to tear the whole house down to rework it, it would be cheaper to start fresh.

I saw a lot of people go upside down after the 2008 recession. They had really nice houses though. Too bad they couldn't afford to keep them. Don't blow your nest egg on your pad, pad your nest egg.

1990C4S 11-14-2020 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 911boost (Post 11101966)
I prefer the before. Modern is overplayed in my opinion. Maybe just make some minor changes including the colors.

I agree. In ten years people will say 'that house was renovated around 2020'.

Starless 11-14-2020 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 11102203)
Hire someone to clean your roof once a year.
That's what old people do.

Exactly what i was thinking.

tcar 11-14-2020 07:51 AM

What does it look like now?????
Seriously.

Shuie 11-14-2020 12:07 PM

Any recommendations for software to draft a floor plan or do a high level home design that I can take to an architect and get a real set of plans made from? I downloaded the trial of smartdraw, but I can't really print anything from this version.

Has anyone used any of these?
https://www.homedesignsoftware.tv/ppc/

dad911 11-14-2020 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 11101919)
I sometimes wonder in major renovations if it would be cheaper to raze the house to the ground and build a new home.

It often is.

dad911 11-14-2020 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Shuie (Post 11103219)
Any recommendations for software to draft a floor plan or do a high level home design that I can take to an architect and get a real set of plans made from? I downloaded the trial of smartdraw, but I can't really print anything from this version.

Has anyone used any of these?
https://www.homedesignsoftware.tv/ppc/

We use chief architect home design. I use suite, the cheaper version, mostly for cabinets and tinkering. My son uses architectural. The demos, and even my version don't print well. I cannot print scale pdfs on our plotter, but he can.

https://www.homedesignersoftware.com/?__utma=67784003.763715596.1605404795.1605404795.1 605404795.1&__utmb=67784003.10.10.1605404795&__utm c=67784003&__utmx=-&__utmz=67784003.1605404795.1.1.utmcsr=google|utmc cn=(organic)|utmcmd=organic|utmctr=(not%20provided )&__utmv=-&__utmk=203887063#products

908/930 11-14-2020 05:44 PM

Vash, Is there any minimum amount for the chimney height from ground level that is required for building code in your area?

Shuie, Do you have experience with design software? If not the learning curve could take a while, I used Chief architect and was not impressed, it was good at simple items like making walls and placing cabs but was not good with complex roof. Should have just used Solidworks, much harder to learn but way better. Talk to the architect you want to use and see what type of files he can transfer to his software, not all file types convert well.

Shuie 11-15-2020 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dad911 (Post 11103457)
We use chief architect home design. I use suite, the cheaper version, mostly for cabinets and tinkering. My son uses architectural. The demos, and even my version don't print well. I cannot print scale pdfs on our plotter, but he can.

https://www.homedesignersoftware.com/?__utma=67784003.763715596.1605404795.1605404795.1 605404795.1&__utmb=67784003.10.10.1605404795&__utm c=67784003&__utmx=-&__utmz=67784003.1605404795.1.1.utmcsr=google|utmc cn=(organic)|utmcmd=organic|utmctr=(not%20provided )&__utmv=-&__utmk=203887063#products

Thanks. This looks very similar to one I posted links to above. homedesignersoftware.com vs. homedesignsoftware.tv. weird. I think the one I posted is a cheaper knock off.

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Originally Posted by 908/930 (Post 11103488)
Va

Shuie, Do you have experience with design software? If not the learning curve could take a while, I used Chief architect and was not impressed, it was good at simple items like making walls and placing cabs but was not good with complex roof. Should have just used Solidworks, much harder to learn but way better. Talk to the architect you want to use and see what type of files he can transfer to his software, not all file types convert well.

I have no experience with home design software, but I have an engineering background and have plenty of experience designing & building various systems and things that are actually in my professional domain. I would never send any professional in any field a half baked working file, spec or set of drawings and ask them to finish it. I just want to get what I have in my head refined on paper so I can give a pro architect a good visual and a list of requirements to start with. I'll let them do their thing and tell me what I missed or if it's just a bad idea.

mepstein 11-15-2020 08:26 AM

I did something similar about 12 years ago. Took off the roof and turned the attic into a conditioned space. Turned out nice and cost me about 40k. Wife put up with it but said never again.
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vash 12-14-2020 10:17 AM

just had initial meeting with my builder. he torpedod my roof ideas..he said my house it too long and the high point will be way the hell "up there". he suggested a pitched roof. which satisfies my wife's future solar idea.

this is gonna get interesting. we got along great. i liked him a lot. he said this is a tiny project for his company. tiny. hahha.

plain fan 12-14-2020 12:24 PM

Yeah, but I thought height was the purpose for having a good field of view? :p

A930Rocket 12-14-2020 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 908/930 (Post 11103488)
Vash, Is there any minimum amount for the chimney height from ground level that is required for building code in your area?

Unless it’s changed, the chimney needs to be 2’ higher than the roof (anything) in a 10’ radius.

Porsche-O-Phile 12-14-2020 07:57 PM

Clearly this is a job for ROOF GIRL!!!

Zeke 12-15-2020 08:40 AM

I'd sell before building a whole new roof. I'm serious.

911boost 12-15-2020 10:22 PM

More power to you and your wife Vash, I did a full gut, moved walls everything a few years ago on my first floor. Turned out great but am not looking forward to doing the second to match it. Did some things like doors already, but it need trim and two bathrooms to be consistent.

ckelly78z 12-16-2020 01:47 AM

I can't imagine having the whole roof replaced with a different design, let alone still trying to live/navigate around the construction zone and workers, I value my privacy way too much.

In late 2018, I almost single handedly completely rebuilt our downstairs bathroom (down to the studs with new everything), I was never so happy to finally button up everything after it was functional again....what a pain in the azz !

onewhippedpuppy 12-16-2020 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DanielDudley (Post 11102737)
Labor to do that rendering would be even more than materials. When you remodel, you need to look for the low hanging fruit, and concentrate on what will make your life better living in the house. You don't need to impress the neighbors to improve your living arrangements unless you have money to burn.

Do you really want to be a slave to a house payment, or do you want to have a house so you can have a secure base for living a full life? Sacrificing a year of your life to get a great house is one thing, working OT for the next 10 years to pay for it is another. If you have to tear the whole house down to rework it, it would be cheaper to start fresh.

I saw a lot of people go upside down after the 2008 recession. They had really nice houses though. Too bad they couldn't afford to keep them. Don't blow your nest egg on your pad, pad your nest egg.

Amen to that. My house is paid for and “good enough”. We have room for our family, room for our stuff, and it’s a decent neighborhood. My wife and I used to plan on fully renovating our house to build sweat equity (done), then selling it and moving to 10 acres or so just outside of the city. Which would probably be double what our house would sell for, and starting over on a new mortgage. No thanks. Like I said, “good enough”.

Cliff I think your house looks great as is. If it’s modern curb appeal you’re looking for, there’s a lot you could do that wouldn’t require a new roof or extensive remodel.

vash 12-16-2020 09:14 AM

i dont give a **** about curb appeal.

i dont want a roof that traps 4 feet deep pile of leaves. and messing with the scuppers sucks. i like efficient drainage. climbing up there to rake my roof sucks.

i am not that far from paying off my home. we have been dumping cash into the payments.

creaturecat 12-16-2020 02:30 PM

ditch the rake. use a leaf blower.

onewhippedpuppy 12-16-2020 04:26 PM

I have a steep roof and still have to get on a ladder and clean my gutters weekly.

tcar 12-16-2020 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 11101020)
my wife and i have been batting around the idea of taking the 1970's roof design off of our house, and making it much better.

let me draw you a mental picture. my roof is pancake flat. all okay, but some 1970's house designer thought it would look smashing to put a parapet around the entire thing. to get on my roof of the main house, i have to climb onto the garage flat roof. take a aluminum 5-6 foot ladder and lean it against the parapet wall..then take another 5-6 foot ladder and lift it over the parapet and lean it against the wall from the other side. then i can climb up a ladder and down the other side. rain runs to the corners and flow into scuppers. i am at the mercy of my neighbors oak trees. i climb up annually to clear leaves. all well and good, but i am not getting any younger. in a siege, the parapet would be nice to duck behind to reload :)

i want to take the entire roof off and install a semi sloped roof. modern looking. then i can do some fascia updates, some new windows, new modern garage door, etc. make it look nicer and less "brady bunch neighborhood". maybe even SOLAR!!

i was just visiting my friends full house remodel. i was halfway talking chit and i told asked the Contractor (who told me he was retiring after that job), "you should do my house before you retire!". he is doing a great job, and it was a design/build thing. full drawings and everything.

he just told my wife for us to give him a call and get a cost estimate.!! yikes!! he will do our job before he retires! . i really want to do it..install some real lighting and stuff on the insides while i am at it, some vent-able skylights.

just a pic to show the idea of a remodel.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1605221550.jpg

Again...What does it look like now??????

908/930 12-16-2020 05:24 PM

tcar, there is a pic on page 1 and page 2


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