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RWebb 12-11-2020 10:48 AM

Fusion
 
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/12/us-physicists-rally-around-ambitious-plan-build-fusion-power-plant

sc_rufctr 12-11-2020 10:54 AM

Great but Fusion energy is about 3 decades away at best...

It's a bit like driver less cars. If you believed the hype of just a few years ago they'd be here now but they're not.

But when it does happen it will change everything.
Imagine not worrying about energy costs or the cost to the environment ever again.

The world will look entirely different when Fusion finally comes online.

GH85Carrera 12-11-2020 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 11138330)
Great but Fusion energy is about 3 decades away at best...

It's a bit like driver less cars. If you believed the hype of just a few years ago they'd be here now but they're not.

But when it does happen it will change everything.
Imagine not worrying about energy costs or the cost to the environment ever again.

The world will look entirely different when Fusion finally comes online.

When I was in high school back in the stone ages they were saying practical fusion energy was 20 years out. It is still 20 to 30 years out. It is really really hard to make it work.

Fusion energy will be a great thing and truly change the world. Right now it still uses more energy than it produces, and it one produces for very brief periods of time.

stevej37 12-11-2020 10:59 AM

^^^ Agree...it will be a real game-changer...when it happens.

Sooner or later 12-11-2020 11:02 AM

Ford pulled the plug on them.

sc_rufctr 12-11-2020 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11138343)
When I was in high school back in the stone ages they were saying practical fusion energy was 20 years out. It is still 20 to 30 years out. It is really really hard to make it work.

Fusion energy will be a great thing and truly change the world. Right now it still uses more energy than it produces, and it one produces for very brief periods of time.

What if we also "cured" ageing? All of a sudden our entire Solar System becomes our back yard.
My only regret is that I wont see it for myself but I believe there are people alive right now that will live beyond 200 years.

A Mars landing will also happen quicker than most of us think. Let's see if the Chinese can match that when it does. ;)

RWebb 12-11-2020 11:13 AM

Fusion energy has been about 3 decades away since 1960


The real change is that all those guys seem to be on board for a single proposal - that's new

stevej37 12-11-2020 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 11138371)
A Mars landing will also happen quicker than most of us think. Let's see if the Chinese can match that when it does. ;)

They're on the way there now for a load of rocks.:D

GH85Carrera 12-11-2020 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 11138371)
What if we also "cured" ageing? All of a sudden our entire Solar System becomes our back yard.
My only regret is that I wont see it for myself but I believe there are people alive right now that will live beyond 200 years.

A Mars landing will also happen quicker than most of us think. Let's see if the Chinese can match that when it does. ;)

I can see 120 years as a lifespan, but I suspect too many parts of the body and the brain itself just will not last that long. Maybe we can clone body parts to grow parts as needed, but we will still have the same brain.

I saw one report that thinks we are 10 years of from a technology to download our conciseness to a computer. Maybe then we could re-upload it to a clone of your former body, or even better, someone with George Clooney looks and the body like Dwayne Johnson. I don't think it will happen anytime soon.

RWebb 12-11-2020 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11138413)
a technology to download our conciseness to a computer

that will never work for tabs

sc_rufctr 12-11-2020 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11138413)
I can see 120 years as a lifespan, but I suspect too many parts of the body and the brain itself just will not last that long. Maybe we can clone body parts to grow parts as needed, but we will still have the same brain.

I saw one report that thinks we are 10 years of from a technology to download our conciseness to a computer. Maybe then we could re-upload it to a clone of your former body, or even better, someone with George Clooney looks and the body like Dwayne Johnson. I don't think it will happen anytime soon.

Fair warning: "Super hot older Jodie Foster" content. :D (I'm allowed to dream)

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red-beard 12-11-2020 12:16 PM

One word:

Neutrons. You need to be able to keep the neutrons IN and the energy associated with them....

Zeke 12-11-2020 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11138413)
I can see 120 years as a lifespan, but I suspect too many parts of the body and the brain itself just will not last that long. Maybe we can clone body parts to grow parts as needed, but we will still have the same brain.

I saw one report that thinks we are 10 years of from a technology to download our conciseness to a computer. Maybe then we could re-upload it to a clone of your former body, or even better, someone with George Clooney looks and the body like Dwayne Johnson. I don't think it will happen anytime soon.

...and why?

Hawkeye's-911T 12-11-2020 03:09 PM

Chirped pulse amplification in fusion reactors - another possible avenue to "break-even"

https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1511/1511.03231.pdf

My hopes for molten salt or thorium fueled reactors as a practical solution to mitigate our reliance on
fossil based energy are fading a little. I also hope this thought does not constitute a thread hi-jack.

Cheers
JB

RWebb 12-11-2020 03:49 PM

how about starting a thread on new fission reactor designs?

sc_rufctr 12-11-2020 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 11138474)
One word:

Neutrons. You need to be able to keep the neutrons IN and the energy associated with them....

"Shoosh now"... I'm not entirely sure what you mean but it sounds good. ;)

The problem with Fusion right now as I understand it is sustaining the reaction.
We can get it to happen but keeping that reaction going is the big problem.

RWebb 12-11-2020 04:10 PM

that's more or less what he said

LEAKYSEALS951 12-11-2020 04:22 PM

I remember being in college around 1990-1992.

At the time, there was a lot of press about cold fusion. In my entire life, that was the only time I ever picked up a newpaper and thought "wow, things are going to get better" was picking up a paper with the headline "fusion works"

Turned out the cold fusion was a bust. I've been an ********* ever since.

Nostril Cheese 12-11-2020 04:22 PM

its the future...

Where's my sex bot?

RWebb 12-11-2020 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Nostril Cheese (Post 11138794)
its the future...

Where's my sex bot?

you want to achieve "fusion" with your sex bot?


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