Type R...better looking and more power for 2020
 

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a34848360/2022-honda-civic-type-r-details/ :)
(thread title should say 2022...sorry)


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My 18 year old son wants one of those things in the worst way. I told him "graduate college, get a good job, save your money and go buy one"

Can't say I blame him.

It's good to want things.

Lose that rear wing and I*** might step foot on the dealership to go look at it. Big improvement.


*** "I" meaning 50+ year old arthritic has been flip phone carrying core target audience.

This is a brilliant redesign, maturing along with the target demographic.
The hardcore fans of R, who actually have jobs and money, are now approaching their 30s

Needs better styling.

For a Honda, that is high style
Looks like a small Euro sedan from the side

They must have finally listened to complaints about the 'boy racer style' of the current one.
I like how they toned it down...very nice car.

Man that is a lot of power out of a 2 litre. Wonder what it weighs?

^^^
Curb weight is 3121 lbs......according to Honda.

It definitely looks better then the previous abomination. I still have zero interest until they get something other then the front wheels driving the car. Why don't they put that engine in a new S2000?

That's stock 2.0L Mitsubishi Evo HP numbers, and they stopped making those 5 years ago.

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A Honda Civic giving my 997 a run for its money? That ain’t right.

2 two many doors....

The driver in the video was very smooth... the time of the lap was 7:53 unofficially.

I don’t think many successful designers listen to complaints

"Looks better" doesn't exactly mean good-looking. But kudos to Honda for still making hot compacts for the enthusiasts.

It would be a fantastic car. And a lot more "normal" looking. I think I'd feel a bit embarrassed driving the current one (me being an old git in his 60's), but I'd love this one. My mom adored her Civics - great cars.

I need to be pushed, not pulled.

Fatter tires look absolutely stooooipid on the front too.

Big improvement - I like where they’re going but I echo the above. Until it’s RWD or AWD I could care less personally.

That's kind of the point.

Fast cars are not marketed to the retirement homes, but to the young.
Just like current fashion, music, or movies.

"This is not your father's Oldsmobile"

If a retired guy liked the way a modern sports car looks, something is very very wrong.
If retired folk hate the Civic R, then they are doing something right.

The styling is bad no matter the demographic. The fact that Honda "toned down" the styling with something more conservative is telling.

Had Oldsmobile had more appealing styling they might still be around but they were just lumped in with the rest of the drab GM products (Olds was on its way out anyway).

There are plenty of people on this board (who are not in their 20s) who would have loved to buy something like a Civic Type R or WRX STI, myself included - they have they income, but the styling is a complete turn-off. Those are customers lost.

A lot of the younger crowd don't need wild styling directly off the showroom floor anyway, they'd rather personalize themselves with the aftermarket. They do want the performance, though.

That’s a huge improvement, looks like an Audi if you removed the goofy wing.

I test drove a Type R and felt it was let down by FWD. Basically all of the mechanical aspects of the car are exceptional, except for the ability to apply power in a turn. It wasn’t understeer, it’s just that the front tires get overwhelmed and spin with even moderate throttle application. Every other mechanical feature of the car was exceptional. But it is ugly, and the interior was styled by Pep Boys.

understatement has always been underrated.

Ummm... this - if completely true - would mean there is no such thing as a classic look

I get waves and thumbs up from young people fairly often

Bingo. Possibly why most on the Bullitt Mustang board are older than the Mustang buyers who go for the bling.

Unlike the 959 monstrosity embarrassment ?
Or the slant nose Fiero body kit look?
And let's not forget the hideous Gemballa butchery ?

Yea, but the Civic R looks ugly. LMAO.

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You know what also gets thumbs up from young people?
VB Beetles and Vanagons and Minis. Cute cars get thumbs up.
Does not make them a sports car that the next gen desires.

New track record.

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