Type R...better looking and more power for 2020

[stevej37]

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a34848360/2022-honda-civic-type-r-details/
(thread title should say 2022...sorry)

[cabmandone]

My 18 year old son wants one of those things in the worst way. I told him "graduate college, get a good job, save your money and go buy one"

[DanielDudley]

Can't say I blame him.

It's good to want things.

[LEAKYSEALS951]

Lose that rear wing and I*** might step foot on the dealership to go look at it. Big improvement.


*** "I" meaning 50+ year old arthritic has been flip phone carrying core target audience.

[sugarwood]

This is a brilliant redesign, maturing along with the target demographic.
The hardcore fans of R, who actually have jobs and money, are now approaching their 30s

[Nostril Cheese]

Needs better styling.

[Ziggythecat]

For a Honda, that is high style
Looks like a small Euro sedan from the side

[stevej37]

They must have finally listened to complaints about the 'boy racer style' of the current one.
I like how they toned it down...very nice car.

[jorian]

Man that is a lot of power out of a 2 litre. Wonder what it weighs?

[stevej37]

^^^
Curb weight is 3121 lbs......according to Honda.

[pksystems]

It definitely looks better then the previous abomination. I still have zero interest until they get something other then the front wheels driving the car. Why don't they put that engine in a new S2000?

That's stock 2.0L Mitsubishi Evo HP numbers, and they stopped making those 5 years ago.

[stevej37]

[jorian]

A Honda Civic giving my 997 a run for its money? That ain’t right.

[Fast Freddy 944]

2 two many doors....

[stevej37]

The driver in the video was very smooth... the time of the lap was 7:53 unofficially.

[Ziggythecat]

Originally Posted by stevej37

They must have finally listened to complaints about the 'boy racer style' of the current one.
I like how they toned it down...very nice car.

I don’t think many successful designers listen to complaints

[Noah930]

"Looks better" doesn't exactly mean good-looking. But kudos to Honda for still making hot compacts for the enthusiasts.

[Bill Douglas]

It would be a fantastic car. And a lot more "normal" looking. I think I'd feel a bit embarrassed driving the current one (me being an old git in his 60's), but I'd love this one. My mom adored her Civics - great cars.

[Porsche-O-Phile]

I need to be pushed, not pulled.

Fatter tires look absolutely stooooipid on the front too.

Big improvement - I like where they’re going but I echo the above. Until it’s RWD or AWD I could care less personally.

[sugarwood]

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas

I think I'd feel a bit embarrassed driving the current one (me being an old git in his 60's), .

That's kind of the point.

Fast cars are not marketed to the retirement homes, but to the young.
Just like current fashion, music, or movies.

"This is not your father's Oldsmobile"

If a retired guy liked the way a modern sports car looks, something is very very wrong.
If retired folk hate the Civic R, then they are doing something right.