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CurtEgerer 10-21-2022 03:58 AM

Add another to the list above: Isotta Fraschini (old Italian manufacturer) has built an LMH with help from Williams. Trying to get it accepted for 2023 Le Mans. Turbo V6 and 4WD with plans for road-going versions.

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astrochex 10-21-2022 05:59 AM

Ordered my ticket for the ROAR for Friday only, $15. Should include parking and garage access. :D :D

CurtEgerer 10-21-2022 07:52 AM

I've never been to The Roar. What is the general itinerary? Are there practice sessions throughout the day all weekend or what?

URY914 10-21-2022 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CurtEgerer (Post 11827348)
I've never been to The Roar. What is the general itinerary? Are there practice sessions throughout the day all weekend or what?

Go to the Speedway website and look it up.

astrochex 10-21-2022 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CurtEgerer (Post 11827348)
I've never been to The Roar. What is the general itinerary? Are there practice sessions throughout the day all weekend or what?

Its pretty much a standard race weekend with the Roar on Sunday being a race determining 24hr qualifying positions. Past few years Friday is pretty empty. I am expecting a lot more fans this year due to the hybrids.

rfuerst911sc 10-22-2022 03:25 AM

I have attended many races at Sebring over the years I lived in Orlando . If you can do 36 hours straight at that track you have achieved greatness . The track is brutal and takes its toll on car and driver . I am looking forward to next year in IMSA and WEC and hope for great competitive racing .

CurtEgerer 10-22-2022 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by astrochex (Post 11827804)
Its pretty much a standard race weekend with the Roar on Sunday being a race determining 24hr qualifying positions. Past few years Friday is pretty empty. I am expecting a lot more fans this year due to the hybrids.

That's what I was looking for, thanks. The website has almost no information, which is why I asked :rolleyes: The 'schedule' lists only a Friday practice session right now.





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astrochex 10-22-2022 04:08 AM

^I also noted the lack of info. I ended up calling the ticket office. It was an efficient and pleasant experience.

URY914 10-24-2022 05:10 PM

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https://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/porsche-completes-36-hour-lmdh-endurance-test-at-sebring/

CurtEgerer 10-25-2022 05:07 AM

Not bad - 4600 miles in 36 hours at a track that beats the crap out of cars :eek::eek:

CurtEgerer 10-30-2022 04:03 AM

After 50 long years, the war resumes in just a few months: Porsche 963 vs Ferrari 499P.

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CurtEgerer 10-30-2022 04:17 AM

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svandamme 10-30-2022 05:05 AM

yeah well, Its only a war if they can keep up and keep it running
Ferrari's thing has been 1 hour GP races, and even that hasn't been working out that well in the last 10 to 15 years

svandamme 10-30-2022 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CurtEgerer (Post 11830161)
Not bad - 4600 miles in 36 hours at a track that beats the crap out of cars :eek::eek:



The average speed is higher then the Sebring winner in 2022

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194 laps (Sebring is 3.74 miles= 725 miles) in 7:15:37.293 is 100 mph average

4600 miles is 1229 laps... in 36 hours is 127 mph average

Obviously that is not race traffic with slower cars on track, but clearly the car has plenty of speed and endurace to go the full race..

CurtEgerer 10-30-2022 08:35 AM

For the 30 minutes I was watching, it seemed like qualifying laps. They were on it very hard and I guess the times back that up. I really think the goal was to break the car.

Captain Ahab Jr 10-30-2022 04:03 PM

Curt, the goal with testing is not to break the car but to put enough mileage on it to give enough confidence it won't break

All the breaking of parts will have been done beforehand back on the factory on various test rigs eg engine dyno, multi-axis suspension rigs, power train dyno, brake dyno, full chassis rigs etc etc

A 36hr test is 1.5x a 24hr race, many of the safety/reliability critical parts on the car will have been designed and stressed to 1.5x the track loads or race mileage

The whole car will be stripped down back at the factory with all the safety these parts fully inspected eg crack tested, X-ray, CT scan, ultra-sonically to check for damage or the start of damage

I'd imagine Porsche will be quietly pleased with how the test went

CurtEgerer 10-31-2022 04:42 AM

Understood, but I think the pace and choice of track was more a 'try to break the car' effort than a 'try to last 36 hours at a measured race pace' effort. Either way, I wonder if any other manufacturer will attempt something similar. Apparently, Ferrari has 12,000Km of testing total between 2 cars over 5-6 months. Cadillac could be doing lots of testing at GM's Milford proving grounds that nobody knows about. Daytona is coming quick.

svandamme 10-31-2022 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CurtEgerer (Post 11834942)
Understood, but I think the pace and choice of track was more a 'try to break the car' effort than a 'try to last 36 hours at a measured race pace' effort. Either way, I wonder if any other manufacturer will attempt something similar. Apparently, Ferrari has 12,000Km of testing total between 2 cars over 5-6 months. Cadillac could be doing lots of testing at GM's Milford proving grounds that nobody knows about. Daytona is coming quick.

don't forget all the km's Porsche does in Weissach and Nardo are also unknown

rfuerst911sc 11-04-2022 08:20 AM

Cadillac/CGR completes 24 hour test at Sebring . While that is 12 hours less than Porsche did it is still very impressive. Shaping up to be an exciting year in endurance and sprint racing .

https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/cadillac-completes-24-hour-endurance-test-at-sebring/

GH85Carrera 11-04-2022 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 11839027)
Cadillac/CGR completes 24 hour test at Sebring . While that is 12 hours less than Porsche did it is still very impressive. Shaping up to be an exciting year in endurance and sprint racing .

https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/cadillac-completes-24-hour-endurance-test-at-sebring/

So how many drivers did the punish in that test? I hope the spread the pain over many drivers.


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