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mattdavis11 02-06-2021 04:15 AM

I like how the map breaks it down by state party affiliation.

Why not break it down to the city level and show party affiliation? Oh, that's right, it wouldn't be close.

GH85Carrera 02-06-2021 05:53 AM

In countless movies and TV shows the hero or bad guy stealing a car just pull some wires forward from underneath the steering wheel, and drive off. Cars have had locking steering wheels since the 1970s. and driving with no steering is called crashing.

Of course in those same movies and TV shows every automatic weapon rattles like a bag of metal pieces, all car brakes squeak as the car comes to a stop, tires will squeal on dirt roads or in the rain when cornering, if a knife is brandished, even a 6 inch blade it sounds like a sword pulled from a scabbard and has a shing sound. A Mercedes 240 diesel will smoke the tires in a burnout if the hero is chasing the bad guy.

One of my buddies has a 993. He was showing me the steps needed to get the car to start when he is the legal owner, and has a key in his hand if the imoblizer is set active. Tune the key on and then off and dance a jig around the car. Well OK, that is not the proper way, but it is complex for the owner. A thief with no key is going to have to load it on a trailer or tow truck.

Nostril Cheese 02-06-2021 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jcommin (Post 11213103)
I almost sure most young thieves couldn't operate a manual transmission. :)

The car jacking are scary - this is almost a nightly news item

Be sure to carry a .44 in yo '44 while you roll through the hood.

Everybody gonna want to jack your hoopty.

Bill Douglas 02-06-2021 01:28 PM

Around here a lot of fairly high end cars were getting stolen. Coincidentally they had all got a new car stereo from a well known local seller and installer a few weeks earlier....

The police went around and had a word with them and, coincidentally, the thefts of this sort of car with a brand new stereo stopped.

blucille 02-06-2021 02:46 PM

Around here cars are getting stolen because people leave the keys in cars overnight. Story goes that the thieves look for cars that don’t have the mirrors folded in. That cues them in that the keys might be in them....they try, if successful, they drive away.....if the keys aren’t in them, they move to the next house...fools...

p911dad 02-06-2021 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mattdavis11 (Post 11212279)
From what I've been told and seen, most thefts (not jackings) have a shield, by that I mean they operate under the auspice that they are a towing or repossession business. They yank the car at night, dump it, and come back later when they can better well blend in to the normal function of the business, especially a towing company. Not many repos happening right now.

What happened to me, someone stole the keys while I was shooting the bull and working on the car. Just a passerby, never met the guy. I saw a flatbed/rollback in my neighborhood nearly everyday checking to see if I had moved my car, and if it was still blocked in.

One of my kids lived on Warburton Ave in Yonkers. When I visited he told me to move my car to a spot not at the head of the line of parked cars. He said the rollback guys troll at night and will reel in what they want from the head of the line.

cjh 02-06-2021 05:33 PM

In Mpls./St. Paul area, the number of car jackings was up 300% from 2019 to 2020. In the last 2 weeks, there have been at least 2 car jackings that people lost dogs when the car was jacked with some success in recovering their pets. Today I got an Amber Alert notification about a child stolen when the Mother went into the house and left the car running with the kid in back. The kid & car were recovered a short time later without any harm to the child.
In December the Mpls. police ran a sting and in a couple days netted almost 50 car theft suspects and ran another last week with almost 70 people arrested on car theft charges. I wonder how many were people out on bail from the first go around?

sc_rufctr 02-06-2021 06:05 PM

I'm no expert but what I do know for sure:
- If the Pros wants your car one way or the other they'll find a way to get it.

Car Jacking? If they have a gun, aside from locking yourself inside a bullet proof car I don't know what you could do about it. If it was me and they had a gun I'd try to grab my phone and wallet and let them have the car. If they didn't have a gun I'd simply drive away (forward or reverse, whichever works). I always lock myself inside my car.

A recent tactic used by the local pros... (From my my cop neighbour) They install GPS trackers on cars they're interested in and then they watch those cars over time from an internet browser. At some point the cars end up on a tilt bed tow truck and they're never seen again. These are mostly really high end or common late model cars and they're most likely being stripped for parts.

An onboard GPS tracking system can be disabled with a very cheap and easy to buy GPS Jammer.

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Racerbvd 02-06-2021 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nostril Cheese (Post 11213720)
Be sure to carry a .44 in yo '44 while you roll through the hood.

Everybody gonna want to jack your hoopty.

Yep, best way to stop a car thief. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1612667731.jpg

flskala 02-07-2021 06:24 AM

I guess stamping the VIN on every part didn't work out so well... I wonder where all of these JDM engines for sale come from?!

masraum 02-07-2021 01:44 PM

I occasionally flip through some of the stuff on facebook. I've started getting a lot of "no one knew what this was until the Internet helped" kind of things. Some of the stuff is really bizarre and interesting. But the day after I noticed this thread, this popped up in one of those lists.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1612737840.jpg

Nostril Cheese 02-07-2021 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Racerbvd (Post 11214486)

Lower your urge to kill, parts trader

I know you 944 owners think your cars are a hot commodity.

mattdavis11 02-07-2021 02:51 PM

^^^ Only if they have a manual steering rack.

masraum 02-07-2021 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 11214475)
I'm no expert but what I do know for sure:
- If the Pros wants your car one way or the other they'll find a way to get it.

Car Jacking? If they have a gun, aside from locking yourself inside a bullet proof car I don't know what you could do about it. If it was me and they had a gun I'd try to grab my phone and wallet and let them have the car. If they didn't have a gun I'd simply drive away (forward or reverse, whichever works). I always lock myself inside my car.

I think that reverse with the wheel cranked away from them so the front end will tag them would be the best way to go. I wouldn't think most would expect you to go backwards, and then you've got the added bonus of breaking their legs. And you could then throw it in drive....

sc_rufctr 02-08-2021 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11215550)
I think.... SNIP

Do you remember the Drive In scene from the movie Heat? Very effective. ;)

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flatbutt 02-08-2021 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jcommin (Post 11212727)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1612551212.png

See link: worst cities for stolen cars

Looks like no one wants the salt soaked vehicles of the Northeast .

3rd_gear_Ted 02-08-2021 06:07 AM

Enclosed trailers are what I hear are getting stolen a lot.

unclebilly 02-08-2021 07:53 AM

Those maps are interesting. I would rather see a map that shows carjacking numbers in concealed / open carry states vs places where this is not allowed. I’m guessing the media would never share data like that.

Racerbvd 02-08-2021 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nostril Cheese (Post 11215422)
Lower your urge to kill, parts trader

I know you 944 owners think your cars are a hot commodity.

Actually my air cooled 911s are the real babies, the 914-6GT clone with a twin plug 3.0.
Dead criminals are NOT repeate offenders.

Quote:

Enclosed trailers are what I hear are getting stolen a lot.
I know of more than a few cases where that has happened with a nice car inside.

LWJ 02-08-2021 05:18 PM

Customer tells me about his truck getting pipped today. I think about this thread. I ask "how did they bypass the ignition?" He says. Keys in the lock.


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