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stomachmonkey 02-18-2021 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 11229820)

Airfoils have a long history of being defeated by ice. Wind turbines are no exception.

You know it's funny.

Internal combustion engines have a history of working perfectly and failing spectacularly in both extreme heat and extreme cold when you fail to run coolant or anti freeze.

TX ignored the anti freeze.

masraum 02-18-2021 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 11229812)
Despite how cold it’s been, our record low here is from 1899. So I guess cow farts?

Funny, most of the low temps that I've seen bandied about for Texas are also from 1899.

Clearly that was a crappy year for those folks back then.

stomachmonkey 02-18-2021 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11229859)
Other than bad optics to the liberals and other clueless types, how did this impact the problem in Texas?

Because he is not in Washington advocating for Federal help for his constituents?

Oh wait, he doesn't need to.

The current admin already took care of it for him.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/02/14/president-joseph-r-biden-jr-approves-texas-emergency-declaration/

island911 02-18-2021 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 11229867)
You know it's funny.

Internal combustion engines have a history of working perfectly and failing spectacularly in both extreme heat and extreme cold when you fail to run coolant or anti freeze.

TX ignored the anti freeze.

Yep

Texas was told that c'c'c'coold temperatures are feature of a time past.

Any who accepted that as truth would make the logical decision that the turbine blades need no de-ice feature (blade heaters).

And now we have the the green-ninnies (grinnies?) getting the parrot talking point that "Wind Turbine are not stopped by snow and ice!" when the truth is that only SOME (properly optioned) Wind Turbine are not stopped by snow and ice. --but the ones in TX were/are stopped by snow and ice.

stomachmonkey 02-18-2021 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 11229863)
Where's Joe? Kamala?

This looks like Joe's Katrina, right?

BTW, this was ZARF central starting last page.

Joe got to it early so the news cycle may have missed it.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/02/14/president-joseph-r-biden-jr-approves-texas-emergency-declaration/

javadog 02-18-2021 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 11229867)
You know it's funny.

Internal combustion engines have a history of working perfectly and failing spectacularly in both extreme heat and extreme cold when you fail to run coolant or anti freeze.

TX ignored the anti freeze.

I think maybe you're mistaken about that. Got a source to back it up?

mattdavis11 02-18-2021 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11229883)
I think maybe you're mistaken about that. Got a source to back it up?

My sales next week will.

Rawknees'Turbo 02-18-2021 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11229859)
Other than bad optics to the liberals and other clueless types, how did this impact the problem in Texas?

It probably has zero real impact - that is why I called it a display of douchebaggery. Unfortunately that is typical of the people we put in power over us.

island911 02-18-2021 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11229883)
I think maybe you're mistaken about that. Got a source to back it up?

I think he is simply pointing to the lack of the blade-heater option on the TX wind farm equipment.

Why would they opt for that. Everybody knows that the earth is burning up doncha know... :rolleyes:

Year 2000 a Brit Climate scientist told us that in just a few years (with melted ice caps and all) that any snow will be a rare event, and children will have to learn about snow in the classroom.

And... 2021 and every county in TX has snow. ...the whole country pretty much white.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1613670765.JPG

javadog 02-18-2021 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 11229890)
It probably has zero real impact -.

Then why ***** about it? Sensible people don't ***** about things that have no bearing on the problem.

Frankly, your comments say more about you than Cruz.

javadog 02-18-2021 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 11229895)
I think he is simply pointing to the lack of the blade-heater option on the TX wind farm equipment.

It sounded to me more like he was blaming the loss of natural gas production on internal combustion engines not having antifreeze in them.

I will allow that some energy plants in Texas are built differently than elsewhere, to maximize what they can produce in hot weather, when the electric demand is higher.

stomachmonkey 02-18-2021 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11229883)
I think maybe you're mistaken about that. Got a source to back it up?

Yeah, all the frozen equipment.

There are pockets across TX, along the borders, where municipalities are part of the regulated public grid and not TX's unregulated private grid.

They all stayed up.

javadog 02-18-2021 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 11229908)
Yeah, all the frozen equipment.

There are pockets across TX, along the borders, where municipalities are part of the regulated public grid and not TX's unregulated private grid.

They all stayed up.

You can have gas lines freeze, no question, but I doubt the root cause is someone failing to put antifreeze in the coolant of some engine. A running engine needs no antifreeze, anyway.

Rawknees'Turbo 02-18-2021 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11229898)
Then why ***** about it? Sensible people don't ***** about things that have no bearing on the problem.

Frankly, your comments say more about you than Cruz.

It is always amusing how your primary function here is to piss and moan about what other members post.

javadog 02-18-2021 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 11229915)
It is always amusing how your primary function here is to piss and moan about what other members post.

Well Ronnie, if you didn't piss on so many things, I'd probably not comment on it.

stomachmonkey 02-18-2021 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11229904)
I will allow that some energy plants in Texas are built differently than elsewhere, to maximize what they can produce in hot weather, when the electric demand is higher.

Actually, this was part of the problem.

Yes demand for electricity is higher in the summer and those plants burn gas to generate it.

Homes are heated with gas in the winter so gas usage spikes.

It's not an issue for the electrical generating plants because the demand for their product is lower so it offsets.

Then you have what we had this week.

Demand for homes, which is given preference by ERCOT, spiked and the gas plants froze reducing capacity significantly at a time when both markets, residential and producers, needed more.

It was a domino effect.

stomachmonkey 02-18-2021 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11229913)
You can have gas lines freeze, no question, but I doubt the root cause is someone failing to put antifreeze in the coolant of some engine. A running engine needs no antifreeze, anyway.

It was an analogy, not a literal explanation.

Thought that would be obvious.

Seahawk 02-18-2021 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 11229878)

So did Bush, two days before Katrina hit.

https://www.heritage.org/environment/commentary/bushs-katrina-wasnt-bushs-katrina

Joe was in Camp David, playing video games when this all started.

ICEGHAZZ!!!

I am poking fun, Sports Fans. I think the whole "Presidents need to rally the troops" is complete bravo sierra: Send federal aid, stay out of the way.

Best to all in Texas. Ice storms are a complete menace, the only weather related even that grinds my farm to a halt.

cockerpunk 02-18-2021 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 11229867)
You know it's funny.

Internal combustion engines have a history of working perfectly and failing spectacularly in both extreme heat and extreme cold when you fail to run coolant or anti freeze.

TX ignored the anti freeze.

yup, cause they decided to privatize there power grid to maximize profits, rather than build a more expensive and reliable power grid. you know, like how public utilities work.

Rawknees'Turbo 02-18-2021 09:30 AM

Cruz headed back to Texas now, so I guess he thinks that optics matter.


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