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blucille 03-02-2021 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 11245681)
That is an excellent way to cook them. The biggest issue is to get fresh ones. Really fresh. Old spouts, like old broccoli, really smell bad when they are cooked.


they respond well to a little hot and a little sweet....I sauté them with honey and hot sauce or chili flake.....or I'll do lime juice, cilantro and some hot sauce

911Ghia 03-02-2021 01:30 PM

Daughter works at an upscale bar in a downtown Nashville snobby hotel. Head bartender, she told me the olives should be one or three, never an even number.........tradition.
Prefer sippin Bourbon myself.

Rich

stevej37 03-02-2021 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by WPOZZZ (Post 11244931)
I have never had a martini.


You're not missing anything.

herr_oberst 03-02-2021 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 911Ghia (Post 11245810)
Daughter works at an upscale bar in a downtown Nashville snobby hotel. Head bartender, she told me the olives should be one or three, never an even number.........tradition.
Prefer sippin Bourbon myself.

Rich

Does she brew her own vermouth and sell it for 17 bucks a drop in her designer martinis? :)

red-beard 03-02-2021 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 11245700)
Alcohol will never touch these lips....it is poured straight down the throat.

A Martini is a waste of perfectly good Vodka or Gin...straight shots is the only way to fly....

Give this man an Alcohol Enema

I hear it is very efficient

wdfifteen 03-02-2021 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tabs (Post 11245700)
Alcohol will never touch these lips....it is poured straight down the throat.

A Martini is a waste of perfectly good Vodka or Gin...straight shots is the only way to fly....

I enjoy the ritual of making a drink. For us “Let’s have Martinis,” makes it an event.
I have a hard drinking friend who does shots of Scotch while I enjoy my Martinis with olives. We were at a bar when the bartender came by. My friend said, “I’ll have another McCallans and my friend here will have another salad.” LOL!

stuartj 03-02-2021 04:00 PM

The Martini. Such a simple thing, so much to go wrong.

Also, there is no vodka in a martini.

mjohnson 03-02-2021 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by stuartj (Post 11246019)
The Martini. Such a simple thing, so much to go wrong.

Also, there is no vodka in a martini.

Sure there's vodka - it's just juniper/citrus/coriander flavored vodka.

What about caraway and dill flavored vodka (akavit)?

I've made an akavit martini garnished with a sliver of pickled herring. Maybe a wee splash of dry sherry. The clear-juice pickled herring of course, the creamed herring would make the drink disgusting...

wdfifteen 03-02-2021 08:17 PM

Over.
 
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Originally Posted by stuartj (Post 11246019)
The Martini. Such a simple thing, so much to go wrong.

Also, there is no vodka in a martini.

I’m a traditionalist too. To me a Martini is Gin, Dry Vermouth, ice, and Olives. Red described how to put them together. No fish, mutton, boiled beef, root crops, or legumes involved

stuartj 03-02-2021 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 11246257)
I’m a traditionalist too. To me a Martini is Gin, Dry Vermouth, ice, and Olives. Red described how to put them together. No fish, mutton, boiled beef, root crops, or legumes involved

Agree. IME- and Ive put the body in- the least important ingrediant is the gin. Any good gin will do, we keep coming back to plain old Gordons. Vermouth however, type and proportion (using more these days, rather than less- Noilly Pratt or Lillet) botanical olive (using "dirty" olive water) or lemon peel- and all important temperature.

The Martini is an enigma, a journey. No. Its a pilgrimage.

WPOZZZ 03-02-2021 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mjohnson (Post 11246251)
Sure there's vodka - it's just juniper/citrus/coriander flavored vodka.

What about caraway and dill flavored vodka (akavit)?

I've made an akavit martini garnished with a sliver of pickled herring. Maybe a wee splash of dry sherry. The clear-juice pickled herring of course, the creamed herring would make the drink disgusting...

Pickled fish in alcohol? http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...s/pukeface.gif

mjohnson 03-02-2021 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by WPOZZZ (Post 11246279)

I'm trying to get it to be the new trend. If it does, and I wrote a book on it I could be a hundredaire at least.

But seriously - look at all of the fat-washed stuff the really cool kids are doing. Bacon this, duck that, clarified milk punches. There seems to be a place for savory in a cocktail.

Maybe you could even use an olive, but that might be a step too far. Yelch, to me it clashes with the citric and botanical nature of the gin.

(I like olives and I like gin, but like mint and peanut butter they're better kept apart)

mjohnson 03-02-2021 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by stuartj (Post 11246277)
Agree. IME- and Ive put the body in- the least important ingrediant is the gin. Any good gin will do, we keep coming back to plain old Gordons. Vermouth however, type and proportion (using more these days, rather than less- Noilly Pratt or Lillet)

Gordons is a fine gin - and if you get it by the handle it won't break. The fine print on the label claims the Queen's good with it too. You're not getting that with your Sipsmith or whatever.

More vermouth is good because it uses it up and makes you get fresh. I also use it in place of dry sherry in lots of recipes on the stove just to keep the volume moving. The herbals work well with lots of dishes. I think people don't like vermouth because they've only had stuff from that dusty year-old bottle on the bottom shelf of some bar.

For sheer lowbrow simplicity and joy I really love a 2:1 to 3:1 Gordons:Roses Lime gimlet - - as long as the Roses is super fresh. Served up, or if you have an ice crusher, it's awesome as a slushie. If the lime's another skanky dusty bottle of brown sludge from the back bar I'll just have a beer please...

WPOZZZ 03-02-2021 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mjohnson (Post 11246282)
I'm trying to get it to be the new trend. If it does, and I wrote a book on it I could be a hundredaire at least.

But seriously - look at all of the fat-washed stuff the really cool kids are doing. Bacon this, duck that, clarified milk punches. There seems to be a place for savory in a cocktail.

Maybe you could even use an olive, but that might be a step too far. Yelch, to me it clashes with the citric and botanical nature of the gin.

(I like olives and I like gin, but like mint and peanut butter they're better kept apart)

Not a bacon fan as it is too greasy/oily. No duck for me because those are my pets. I drink milk once in a while.

I like my alcohol straight, not mixed. No soda, no fruit, no fish. Definitely no veges!

Bill Douglas 03-02-2021 10:25 PM

To be honest... I think a real martini is one of the revoltingest drinks around.

However a vodka martin is a whole different beast. More the sort of drink you would serve up to some young ladies if you were planning a naked in the hot tub sort of an evening. Particularly if you intended it to be shaken not stirred.

wdfifteen 03-03-2021 04:03 AM

^^

Like THIS?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1614776555.jpg

wdfifteen 03-03-2021 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by stuartj (Post 11246277)
Agree. IME- and Ive put the body in- the least important ingrediant is the gin. Any good gin will do, we keep coming back to plain old Gordons. Vermouth however, type and proportion (using more these days, rather than less- Noilly Pratt or Lillet) botanical olive (using "dirty" olive water) or lemon peel- and all important temperature.

The Martini is an enigma, a journey. No. Its a pilgrimage.

To me it's the gin. I ALWAYS use Tanqueray gin and Martini and Rossi vermouth. You chill the glass VERY cold while icing down the gin. When everything is good and cold pour a little vermouth in the glass, swirl it to coat the glass, toss out the excess. Stab two olives with a toothpick, lift them out of the jar liquid carefully, so as to keep as much of the pickling juice on them as possible. Drop them in the glass, pour in the gin, and head to the hot tub.

monoflo 03-03-2021 05:39 AM

Gin --Martini
Rye --Manhattan

DonDavis 03-03-2021 08:53 AM

Those aren't cat eye balls, but your course looks correct. ;)


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