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Very strange electrical issue, thoughts?
I cook sous vide using an anova immersion circulator, which has a built in pid temp control. When plugged into a specific outlet in my kitchen, the unit continues to heat beyond the setpoint. When plugged into any other outlet in the house, including outlets on the SAME circuit, it works fine. Tried another brand of cooker, does the same thing.
Electrician just left. All outlets on circuit appear normal, voltage good etc. Replaced the problematic one, and same problem... Ghost in the outlet? |
No idea here why it would go above the set temp.
My Sous Vide Art has stopped a couple times when into an hour or more. I quickly learned that when the plastic container got warm enough, the clamp was slipping down..forcing water over the max fill line. Now, I wedge something under the top of the clamp to keep it from slipping. |
Did you replace the outlet?
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The only thing I can come up with because I am no professional is that you have
a single phase 220 volt power source to the home and that is two 110 volt circuits. The one circuit of the two is has small voltage different than the other. It might mean the solid state voltage threshold of your appliance doesn't accept or work as designed because the voltage of circuit #1 isn't within the tolerance. Without knowing your internal house wiring 110 volt circuit distribution between the two 110 volt circuits that make up your load center, I would begin plugging it in in different rooms and maybe the other 110 volt circuit will accept the gizmo you are having trouble with. |
Yes, swapped out the outlet.
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that's nuts.
any chance the thing has bluetooth or wifi so it can connect to your phone? Any chance the ghost is actually in the wireless communication....try an extension cord and moving the unit elsewhere, to a spot near one of the outlets that works perfectly. wild-ass-guess for sure. |
Weird? Try another piece of appliance?
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Historically speaking; do you know of anyone, a prankster perhaps, or even a fat person, has died in the kitchen. And maybe remained as a poltergeist.
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Weird is right. I initially thought the cooker was bad, so I bought a different one from amazon, and it did exactly the same thing, and the kicker is that its got manual/wifi and the original one is manual/bluetooth.
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Is it the outlet, or something near it?
If you set it in the same spot, but use an extension cord to run it from another outlet, do you have the issue? If you move it to another spot where it doesn't have a problem, but use an extension cord to plug it into the problem outlet, is there still a problem? |
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Its kinda academic as I can use it on the good outlets and the electrician couldn't find anything that would burn the house down, but it stumps me. |
If you decide it's the cooker....this is the one I have....works perfect, no bluetooth
https://www.amazon.com/Sous-Vide-Cooker-Immersion-Circulator/dp/B077GXV153/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=sous+vide+art&qid=161 4898904&sr=8-3 |
I like rockfan's thinking, nature v nurture.
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Have you verified the voltage of the problem outlet with a multi meter?
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I reckon there is self-inflicted resonance circuit and that outlet just happens to have right wire length for that oscillation to occur. Chinesium parts are very bad when it comes to spreading interference back to network. There is probably chopper step-down circuit in the heater which is not damped by condensator (saves 50c) and that is feeding back. Oscilloscope should tell...
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Did electrician measure voltages under load (with it plugged in?) including the neutral? I suspect he just plugged in the simple tester.
If you have a voltmeter, measure voltage from hot-neutral and neutral to ground with the sous vide plugged in. Or plug a light into the same receptacle and see if it flickers when the sous vide is on. My money is on resistance (poor connection somewhere) in the neutral or ground lines. |
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Wave forms bouncing back etc. |
As others have said check that plug under load and see if the voltage stays up, the poor connection can also be where that plug is wired from, do you know where the wire feeding that plug starts. Do you have anything driven by a VFD on that circuit, like an exhaust fan or fridge?
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I did have led lights in a nearby range hood fail around the same time' Hood on a different dedicated circuit, maybe transformer is somehow causing rf, but it must be in the line, as I had the thing 10 ft away and it malfunctioned. It worked fine on the troublesome outlet for two years prior. Have warranty parts coming for the hood, will install. But issue is there whether transformer energized in hood or not. |
Probably the fridge compressor motor, or the fridge controls. Some older motors have a capacitor, and some newer ones use inverter drives, both can cause noise in the AC line.
Just the compressor cycling on is likely create a low voltage dip on that circuit, possibly resetting the controller. |
The fridge is on the same circuit as the sous vide? If so, try the fridge on a different circuit with an extension cord and see if the sous vide works.
Refrigerators should be on a dedicated circuit, and are by code in new construction. |
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You can rule out the fridge by using a heavy duty extension cord and plugging the fridge into a different circuit.
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Greg, time to sell the house while the market is hot. ;)
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Is the refrigerator an inverter type compressor?
No idea if this could contribute but merely curious. |
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What's really got me stumped is that this all worked fine, fridge, sous vide, everything, for almost 3 years. |
Bit surprised nobody has yet suggested to check the ground on that socket
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^^ post 20..... but current should not be travelling through the ground.
I still think it's a poor connection somewhere. Measure voltages under load, or see if a simple old-style incandescent light plugged into the same outlet flickers when running the sous vide. |
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and some other appliance leaks. and affects this one or vice versa |
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Does the device even have a ground pin? Have you re-tested your hypothesis? You could just have a flakey device.... |
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Yes, I used a different brand immersion circ, brand new out of the box (initially thought mine was bad) and it behaves the same way on this outlet, but fine on the others. Tested for ground and load, didn't test for leakage to ground, will do that, but have swapped outlet with no effect. I see dead people.... |
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