Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > Miscellaneous and Off Topic Forums > Off Topic Discussions


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered
 
greglepore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Charlottesville Va
Posts: 5,739
Very strange electrical issue, thoughts?

I cook sous vide using an anova immersion circulator, which has a built in pid temp control. When plugged into a specific outlet in my kitchen, the unit continues to heat beyond the setpoint. When plugged into any other outlet in the house, including outlets on the SAME circuit, it works fine. Tried another brand of cooker, does the same thing.
Electrician just left. All outlets on circuit appear normal, voltage good etc. Replaced the problematic one, and same problem...
Ghost in the outlet?

__________________
Greg Lepore
85 Targa
05 Ducati 749s (wrecked, stupidly)
2000 K1200rs (gone, due to above)
05 ST3s (unfinished business)
Old 03-04-2021, 10:31 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: west michigan
Posts: 26,371
No idea here why it would go above the set temp.

My Sous Vide Art has stopped a couple times when into an hour or more.
I quickly learned that when the plastic container got warm enough, the clamp was slipping down..forcing water over the max fill line. Now, I wedge something under the top of the clamp to keep it from slipping.
__________________
78 SC Targa Black....gone
84 Carrera Targa White
98 Honda Prelude
22 Honda Civic SI
Old 03-04-2021, 10:43 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Hell Belcho
 
Nostril Cheese's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Oz
Posts: 9,249
Did you replace the outlet?
__________________
Saved by the buoyancy of citrus.
Old 03-04-2021, 10:47 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Registered
 
Rapewta's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 926
The only thing I can come up with because I am no professional is that you have
a single phase 220 volt power source to the home and that is two 110 volt circuits.
The one circuit of the two is has small voltage different than the other.
It might mean the solid state voltage threshold of your appliance doesn't accept or work as designed because the voltage of circuit #1 isn't within the tolerance.

Without knowing your internal house wiring 110 volt circuit distribution between the two 110
volt circuits that make up your load center, I would begin plugging it in in different rooms and maybe the other 110 volt circuit will accept the gizmo you are having trouble with.
__________________
67 396 corvette coupe. Sold
66 351 AC Cobra kit. Sold
99 996 man coupe
2001 911 Turbo man coupe
Old 03-04-2021, 10:48 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Registered
 
greglepore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Charlottesville Va
Posts: 5,739
Yes, swapped out the outlet.
__________________
Greg Lepore
85 Targa
05 Ducati 749s (wrecked, stupidly)
2000 K1200rs (gone, due to above)
05 ST3s (unfinished business)
Old 03-04-2021, 10:48 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Been here a while
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: East coast, west coast, typ. 35,000 ft
Posts: 2,431
that's nuts.

any chance the thing has bluetooth or wifi so it can connect to your phone? Any chance the ghost is actually in the wireless communication....try an extension cord and moving the unit elsewhere, to a spot near one of the outlets that works perfectly.

wild-ass-guess for sure.
__________________
looking for 1972 911t motor XR584, S/N 6121622
Old 03-04-2021, 10:59 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 17,312
Weird? Try another piece of appliance?
Old 03-04-2021, 11:26 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Registered
 
Bill Douglas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: bottom left corner of the world
Posts: 22,686
Historically speaking; do you know of anyone, a prankster perhaps, or even a fat person, has died in the kitchen. And maybe remained as a poltergeist.
Old 03-04-2021, 12:49 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: west michigan
Posts: 26,371
__________________
78 SC Targa Black....gone
84 Carrera Targa White
98 Honda Prelude
22 Honda Civic SI
Old 03-04-2021, 01:01 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Registered
 
greglepore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Charlottesville Va
Posts: 5,739
Weird is right. I initially thought the cooker was bad, so I bought a different one from amazon, and it did exactly the same thing, and the kicker is that its got manual/wifi and the original one is manual/bluetooth.
__________________
Greg Lepore
85 Targa
05 Ducati 749s (wrecked, stupidly)
2000 K1200rs (gone, due to above)
05 ST3s (unfinished business)
Old 03-04-2021, 01:17 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 17,312
Quote:
Originally Posted by stevej37 View Post
Man, that movie scared the living siht out of us for weeks. Sneaked out of the house, took the bus to Hollywood and caught a late show. Scared sihtless walking up our hill back home.
Old 03-04-2021, 01:22 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 17,312
Quote:
Originally Posted by greglepore View Post
Weird is right. I initially thought the cooker was bad, so I bought a different one from amazon, and it did exactly the same thing, and the kicker is that its got manual/wifi and the original one is manual/bluetooth.
I really think its your appliances and I think Bliculle is correct, it must be the bluetooth or wifi that's the cause. What the hell is bluetooth doing on a piece of appliance anyway?
Old 03-04-2021, 01:24 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
 
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: La Crosse, WI
Posts: 1,312
Is it the outlet, or something near it?
If you set it in the same spot, but use an extension cord to run it from another outlet, do you have the issue? If you move it to another spot where it doesn't have a problem, but use an extension cord to plug it into the problem outlet, is there still a problem?
Old 03-04-2021, 01:33 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
Registered
 
greglepore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Charlottesville Va
Posts: 5,739
Quote:
Originally Posted by rockfan4 View Post
Is it the outlet, or something near it?
If you set it in the same spot, but use an extension cord to run it from another outlet, do you have the issue? If you move it to another spot where it doesn't have a problem, but use an extension cord to plug it into the problem outlet, is there still a problem?
Good question. I'll try that. I thought about rfi, but there's not a nearby source.One outlet that works is within 3 ft of the problem one.
__________________
Greg Lepore
85 Targa
05 Ducati 749s (wrecked, stupidly)
2000 K1200rs (gone, due to above)
05 ST3s (unfinished business)
Old 03-04-2021, 01:55 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
Registered
 
greglepore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Charlottesville Va
Posts: 5,739
Quote:
Originally Posted by look 171 View Post
I really think its your appliances and I think Bliculle is correct, it must be the bluetooth or wifi that's the cause. What the hell is bluetooth doing on a piece of appliance anyway?
Its there to allow remote start/stop and temp monitoring. If I change the temp on either unit via wireless, it changes the set temp on the display, but the unit still overruns it, but again, only on the problem outlet. And the unit recognizes the set temp, as it beeps as it should when it reaches it, but the heat stays on. Also, the temp reading on the unit is correct (actual temp, not the set temp) as I've checked that.

Its kinda academic as I can use it on the good outlets and the electrician couldn't find anything that would burn the house down, but it stumps me.
__________________
Greg Lepore
85 Targa
05 Ducati 749s (wrecked, stupidly)
2000 K1200rs (gone, due to above)
05 ST3s (unfinished business)
Old 03-04-2021, 01:58 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: west michigan
Posts: 26,371
If you decide it's the cooker....this is the one I have....works perfect, no bluetooth

https://www.amazon.com/Sous-Vide-Cooker-Immersion-Circulator/dp/B077GXV153/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=sous+vide+art&qid=1614898904&sr=8-3
__________________
78 SC Targa Black....gone
84 Carrera Targa White
98 Honda Prelude
22 Honda Civic SI
Old 03-04-2021, 02:03 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #16 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Jersey Shore
Posts: 1,084
Garage
I like rockfan's thinking, nature v nurture.
__________________
Chris
the more i learn, the less i know
Old 03-04-2021, 02:04 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #17 (permalink)
Almost Banned Once
 
sc_rufctr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Adelaide South Australia
Posts: 38,246
Send a message via MSN to sc_rufctr
Have you verified the voltage of the problem outlet with a multi meter?
__________________
- Peter
Old 03-04-2021, 04:20 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #18 (permalink)
Registered
 
beepbeep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Sweden
Posts: 5,910
I reckon there is self-inflicted resonance circuit and that outlet just happens to have right wire length for that oscillation to occur. Chinesium parts are very bad when it comes to spreading interference back to network. There is probably chopper step-down circuit in the heater which is not damped by condensator (saves 50c) and that is feeding back. Oscilloscope should tell...
__________________
Thank you for your time,
Old 03-04-2021, 10:46 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #19 (permalink)
Platinum Member
 
dad911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Posts: 20,885
Did electrician measure voltages under load (with it plugged in?) including the neutral? I suspect he just plugged in the simple tester.

If you have a voltmeter, measure voltage from hot-neutral and neutral to ground with the sous vide plugged in. Or plug a light into the same receptacle and see if it flickers when the sous vide is on.

My money is on resistance (poor connection somewhere) in the neutral or ground lines.

__________________
Politics is in the eye of the beholder - Rodney Dangerfield
Old 03-05-2021, 12:29 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #20 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:43 PM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.