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ramonesfreak 03-30-2021 06:23 PM

guided knife sharpening systems
 
thinking of getting a KME

wicked edge, edge pro.....anyone have a preferred guided sharpener and why

not interested in stones. and i have a sharp maker which i prefer not to use unless i want to reprofile using one of the 2 set angles it allows for

Pazuzu 03-30-2021 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ramonesfreak (Post 11278778)
thinking of getting a KME

wicked edge, edge pro.....anyone have a preferred guided sharpener and why

not interested in stones. and i have a sharp maker which i prefer not to use unless i want to reprofile using one of the 2 set angles it allows for

For the HUNDREDS of dollars that those cost, you could have a professional sharpen it many many times...

Hell, I'll sell you my 20 year old vintage Lansky system for $100 :D

craigster59 03-30-2021 07:56 PM

I have one of these. Works perfect on my kitchen and work knives.

https://www.amazon.com/ChefsChoice-ProntoPro-Sharpener-Sharpening-Euro-American/dp/B007IVBET0/ref=sxin_11_ac_d_rm?ac_md=2-2-Y2hlZnMgY2hvaWNlIGtuaWZlIHNoYXJwZW5lciA0MzYtMw%3D% 3D-ac_d_rm&crid=2BPFCS0DGB8JE&cv_ct_cx=chefs+choice+k nife+sharpener&dchild=1&keywords=chefs+choice+knif e+sharpener&pd_rd_i=B007IVBET0&pd_rd_r=0f43b9dd-76f2-47a9-bc97-091a80610fea&pd_rd_w=4Cads&pd_rd_wg=xZX9a&pf_rd_p= b0625ac1-ea22-4a1c-8206-57129b08e075&pf_rd_r=ZM0ZADBZ60JJXT6876B2&psc=1&qi d=1617162907&sprefix=chefs%2Caps%2C238&sr=1-3-12d4272d-8adb-4121-8624-135149aa9081

rusnak 03-30-2021 08:08 PM

Tormek T-2

ramonesfreak 03-31-2021 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pazuzu (Post 11278845)
For the HUNDREDS of dollars that those cost, you could have a professional sharpen it many many times...

Hell, I'll sell you my 20 year old vintage Lansky system for $100 :D

I realize what they cost but, 1) I collect knives, im not looking to sharpen one knife, and 2) im not interested in sending my knife/knives off to a stranger when I can do it myself

1990C4S 03-31-2021 04:18 AM

Subscribed. I'm not the type to pay someone to sharpen stuff...

masraum 03-31-2021 04:44 AM

For my pocket knives, I've always used a Lansky.
For kitchen knives, I used to have a Chef's Choice. I now use water stones.
I'm not sure how well or easily the Lansky would work on a long kitchen knife.

ramonesfreak 03-31-2021 05:01 AM

I have one, basically same thing that ill use on kitchen knives but i tried it on one of my spyderco knives and butchered the blade.

im looking to sharpen high end pocket knives

ramonesfreak 03-31-2021 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by rusnak (Post 11278864)
Tormek T-2

hell no. my benchmade 940 is going nowhere near that thing

Roswell 03-31-2021 05:08 AM

Edge Pro. Been using one for over 20 years. Easy to master. Great angle control. It just works...

ramonesfreak 03-31-2021 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Roswell (Post 11279075)
Edge Pro. Been using one for over 20 years. Easy to master. Great angle control. It just works...

not being able to clamp the blade in place hasnt been an issue for you? That is probably the only thing im worried about with the edge pro

911 Rod 03-31-2021 05:50 AM

I have one of these. Work Sharp / Ken Onion
Works too well as my wife bleeds everywhere after sharpening.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1617198609.jpg

E38Driver 03-31-2021 05:57 AM

I have one of these and it works real good.

https://smile.amazon.com/Sharpener-Professional-Stainless-Sharpening-Whetstones/dp/B08GK6311V/ref=sr_1_22?crid=M7SEQN6RREHY&dchild=1&keywords=kn ife+sharpeners&qid=1617198963&sprefix=knife+%2Caps %2C200&sr=8-22

Dave

Roswell 03-31-2021 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ramonesfreak (Post 11279082)
not being able to clamp the blade in place hasnt been an issue for you? That is probably the only thing im worried about with the edge pro

Not at all. The platform is very stable. I sharpen everything from high carbon chef's blades to japanese steel. It is not hard to master. And the results are great.

ramonesfreak 03-31-2021 05:58 AM

That is not a guided system....although I see a wheel with #s on it...to set degree angle?

im looking to avoid freehanding. Also I wouldnt use a belt or wheel on an expensive pocket knife blade.....If i lived on a farm and did a lot of chicken beheadings with a machete i would invest in one of those industrial looking belt sharpeners

Guided gives a consistent angle across the length of the edge

also, not interested in anything that doesnt allow for stones of various grit....the idea is to get a consistent angle that can be polished to a mirror finish and the touched up on a stop as needed in between major sharpening sessions

EDIT: I see BladeHQ thinks highly of this. Maybe its ok but I dont like the idea of belts....rather use stones. When I said above that I wasnt interested in stones, what I meant was, freehand wet stones...which are obviously great but I dont have the time or interest to develop a consistent technique for those

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 11279117)
I have one of these. Work Sharp / Ken Onion
Works too well as my wife bleeds everywhere after sharpening.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1617198609.jpg


ramonesfreak 03-31-2021 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roswell (Post 11279125)
Not at all. The platform is very stable. I sharpen everything from high carbon chef's blades to japanese steel. It is not hard to master. And the results are great.

The other thing that concerned me was, looking at the Apex model, the suction cup base.....I might not be working on a surface that can accommodate a suction cup

Any issue with that?

masraum 03-31-2021 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramonesfreak (Post 11279067)
I have one, basically same thing that ill use on kitchen knives but i tried it on one of my spyderco knives and butchered the blade.

im looking to sharpen high end pocket knives

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramonesfreak (Post 11279070)
hell no. my benchmade 940 is going nowhere near that thing

I've been using one of these to sharpen my Benchmades for the last 20 years. I've gone through a bunch of different Benchmades in that time. It's always worked great.

When I bought it, it was what I could afford. I'd probably get a slightly better Lansky (diamond and more stones) if I purchased one today. I also added the serrated stone.

I've had a couple of 940s, one with a red anodized handle and the other carbon fiber.

https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-cmbu...1572885571.jpg

ramonesfreak 03-31-2021 06:10 AM

for those curious about what im talking about, this is an example of a guided sharpener....NOT great for large kitchen knives but for everyday pocket knives it is....

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/aMGbj7dVV4g" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

svandamme 03-31-2021 06:20 AM

damn that guy in the video has an annoying voice...



150 to 200 bucks for what, a jig that holds your knife at a set angle from the grinding stone??

ffs, you can make that yourself from any box of meccano out there.

20 bucks
https://www.amazon.com/Erector-Meccano-Building-Construction-Education/dp/B074XP8VJL/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=meccano&qid=161720055 4&refinements=p_89%3AMeccano&rnid=2528832011&s=toy s-and-games&sr=1-6

ramonesfreak 03-31-2021 06:21 AM

awww dont be mean to Nick

svandamme 03-31-2021 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 11279117)
I have one of these. Work Sharp / Ken Onion
Works too well as my wife bleeds everywhere after sharpening.

Have to ask, what does she do with it to bleed everywhere ??

ramonesfreak 03-31-2021 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 11279165)
damn that guy in the video has an annoying voice...



150 to 200 bucks for what, a jig that holds your knife at a set angle from the grinding stone??

ffs, you can make that yourself from any box of meccano out there.

20 bucks
https://www.amazon.com/Erector-Meccano-Building-Construction-Education/dp/B074XP8VJL/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=meccano&qid=161720055 4&refinements=p_89%3AMeccano&rnid=2528832011&s=toy s-and-games&sr=1-6

Maybe, but will it hold the heavy stones securely? Im not adverse to spending a few hundred bucks on a quality tool that works considering ive already spent several thousand dollars on knives

the sharpener will pay for itself very quickly

knives and sharpening them to my preferences, is a hobby basically. If I lived in a cave in the forest, i would probably just sharpen my knife on a rock

svandamme 03-31-2021 06:46 AM

I don't see why it couldn't.
It's metal
It has nuts and bolts that can be tightened.
You can put in strengthening beams and make angled supports that will hold the weight of a grown man..

https://constructionmanagermagazine.com/students-bel2fasts-quee8ns-university-comp3lete/#:~:text=Weighing%20just%20600kg%2C%20the%20lightw eight,Meccano%20bridge%20in%20the%20world.


https://constructionmanagermagazine....dge1_620px.jpg

ramonesfreak 03-31-2021 07:01 AM

i guess it depends on how much $ value you assign to your free time. I dont want to spend my time building a sharpener when someone already has done the work to make something that works as a system

masraum 03-31-2021 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramonesfreak (Post 11279147)
for those curious about what im talking about, this is an example of a guided sharpener....NOT great for large kitchen knives but for everyday pocket knives it is....

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/aMGbj7dVV4g" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I haven't watched the video, but looks like a fancier version of the Lansky that I posted above.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OnHw0JBMcvU/maxresdefault.jpg

I normally hold everything, and I think the pedestal mount is optional.

1990C4S 03-31-2021 07:12 AM

For large kitchen knives, or pocket knives??

svandamme 03-31-2021 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramonesfreak (Post 11279242)
i guess it depends on how much $ value you assign to your free time.

Well yeah, but you said it's your hobby to sharpen knives, so clearly you're not assigning that much value to your free time.. cause let's face it.. it's recreational sharpening knives , it's not your job :D

911 Rod 03-31-2021 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramonesfreak (Post 11279126)
That is not a guided system....although I see a wheel with #s on it...to set degree angle?

You set angles and it comes with different belts. Need to make an edge in the appropriate angle for type of cut and then the belt on how fine you want it.
From lawnmower blades to stupid sharp.

Quote:

Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 11279186)
Have to ask, what does she do with it to bleed everywhere ??

No idea. It's like she tests them. Like a kid with a wall outlet. lol

flipper35 03-31-2021 08:34 AM

I use a Lansky on all our knives including the larger butchers and carving knives but you do have to move the clamp as you go down the blade on longer blades.

I strop after sharpening as well. Not only do they shave, but I can run along the edge of a sheet of paper and draw 1/32nd off the edge cleanly all the way down. Any sharpener can make an edge sharp enough to slice down the middle of paper.

masraum 03-31-2021 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by flipper35 (Post 11279409)
I use a Lansky on all our knives including the larger butchers and carving knives but you do have to move the clamp as you go down the blade on longer blades.

I strop after sharpening as well. Not only do they shave, but I can run along the edge of a sheet of paper and draw 1/32nd off the edge cleanly all the way down. Any sharpener can make an edge sharp enough to slice down the middle of paper.

Yes, Lansky goes to razor sharp for me.

ramonesfreak 03-31-2021 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 11279283)
Well yeah, but you said it's your hobby to sharpen knives, so clearly you're not assigning that much value to your free time.. cause let's face it.. it's recreational sharpening knives , it's not your job :D

my free time is valuable because my job takes up most of it. And I dont sit around sharpening knives, but collecting them and maintaining them is a hobby. Not one of my primary hobbies, but unlike most people who maybe carry around a made in China folding knife from walmart, I buy expensive knives because I like them, and I dont want the edges anything less than perfect. Maybe Im a weirdo

Your build-it-yourself idea reminds me of my real passion which is collecting vinyl records. A lot of new records come warped. I dont like warped records. So, I paid the money and bought a tool (not accurate to call it a machine- I guess its more of a contraption) which consists of 2 very heavy steel plates, two round pieces of felt and a bag that has a heating element in it. You put the record between the two plates and felt, clamp it together and then place that in the heating bag. The bag heats to 120 degrees and you leave it plugged in for 3 hours etc....and then check to see if your record is now flat.

Many people would just say, make the metal plates or use heavy glass plates and stick the thing in the oven

No thanks. The $250 or whatever I spent on it has paid for itself many times over and im happy I spent the money because the contraption does the job properly

MBAtarga 03-31-2021 09:35 AM

I bought my used Lansky system at a garage sale for $3.
The best $3 I ever spent on one item for sure.

VINMAN 03-31-2021 11:13 AM

Very happy with my Smiths, which is basically a Lansky setup. I use a Crock stick for touch up between sharpening .For my kitchen stuff I have a
Chefs Choice.

.

E38Driver 03-31-2021 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 11279263)
For large kitchen knives, or pocket knives??

Both. I have Henckels knives for the kitchen and a ZT350 and a Smith and wesson that I carry. Keeps them razor sharp.

Dave

wdfifteen 03-31-2021 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 11279117)
I have one of these. Work Sharp / Ken Onion
Works too well as my wife bleeds everywhere after sharpening.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1617198609.jpg

I have one too. It does a good job on abused knives, brings them back if you take the time.
But I recently got a sharpener similar to the Chef’s Choice gizmo in post 3. It’s great for a quick and easy touch-up. It’s like half way between the steel and the belt sharpener.

ramonesfreak 09-02-2021 06:09 AM

I ended up getting the KME. This one - with the wood base that is extra
https://www.kmesharp.com/rpshcombokit.html

i sharpened my wife’s kitchen knifes last night. didn’t think i could sharpen such long knives with it but i managed to get them razor sharp. now that i know how to use it, i can work on my own knives :-)

masraum 09-02-2021 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramonesfreak (Post 11445585)
I ended up getting the KME. This one - with the wood base that is extra
https://www.kmesharp.com/rpshcombokit.html

i sharpened my wife’s kitchen knifes last night. didn’t think i could sharpen such long knives with it but i managed to get them razor sharp. now that i know how to use it, i can work on my own knives :-)

Hahah, practice on her kitchen knives and then use your perfected process on your own. That's a good strategy!

ramonesfreak 09-02-2021 06:26 AM

well, i bought her the kitchen knives so i didn’t feel so guilty but yea, some strategy was involved

vash 09-02-2021 07:12 AM

This is today’s knife.

I can only sharpen it with the Lansky if I get it really full. It’s a good sharpener but I did go with the diamond stones.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1630595495.jpg

ramonesfreak 09-02-2021 07:28 AM

^^^nice biblio flipper


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