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drcoastline 05-03-2021 01:34 PM

They're tearing it all down, Please don't go.
 
The song is fitting to the destruction of America. I was born in Long Beach, Ca raised in a New Jersey shore town not much different from So Cal (in the summer months). I am happy and lucky I got to see and experience they way it once was. They say my little town is where rock and roll began.

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EDIT: The whole thought behind this thread is that everything that once was is being torn down, not just the architecture but everything that once was America, I can't help but to think even the illegals coming in are coming for what once was and they want a part of that? Not what is being created.

Nostril Cheese 05-03-2021 01:44 PM

I experienced most of these places (especially racing) as a 80s SoCal kid.

Im confused. You were never at any of these places?

sammyg2 05-03-2021 01:59 PM

I've seen lots of things go by by over the years, the ones that really bothered me were saddleback motorcycle park, Irvine meadows, and OCIR.

And the orange groves.

drcoastline 05-03-2021 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nostril Cheese (Post 11319152)
I experienced most of these places (especially racing) as a 80s SoCal kid.

Im confused. You were never at any of these places?

I have been back a few times but never lived there. For the most part No I haven't been to those places but the very same thing is happening here.

I like to look at some of the old California to see what it would have been like had we stayed.

This one I like also.

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look 171 05-03-2021 07:01 PM

I started driving in the mid 80s so my time to see and experience many of these places was really from then to the early to early 90s. Also, I was road bike racing (no, no, bicycle), so the street all over many part of LA, especially the northern sections was our training ground and got to see many of them on two wheels. I too remember many of those paces as a kid riding in my father's car. I went to Jr Hi in the Valley and loved it for its simple, safe environment. Major parts of it is a hell hole now, but slowly changing for the better it seems. Most guys that were around since the hustle and bustle of the 20s in LA must have been sad to see the Valley built up like that after the war by the 50. Changes, it bound to happen. I see lots of old photos and music. They bring back the smell and sound of the late 70s, and the 80s for me. Took the bus to the Palladium to see Motley Crue and Korkas was the best. You know what I miss about old LA? The single family homes with front and back yard. It seems that people don't built those anymore. Every thing that goes up is 3 or 6 stories high with a parking garage down below. Street parking has been blown up for many years now. I hate those things.

look 171 05-03-2021 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by drcoastline (Post 11319182)
I have been back a few times but never lived there. For the most part No I haven't been to those places but the very same thing is happening here.

I like to look at some of the old California to see what it would have been like had we stayed.

This one I like also.

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The best thing about that video is the end. 93 KHJ. That's been burned into my brain from years of hanging out at the park on our dead end street. All the older girls use to play that damn station since I was old enough to play there.

Nostril Cheese 05-03-2021 07:51 PM

Seen many a punk rock show at the Palladium. Also miss Dupar's. We had one 2 blocks from my house. Good food. I remember when they tore it down.

The one thing abut that video... how terrible the air looks. I cant imagine LA smog in the 60s. I DO remember Smog Days in the early 80s. Basically, the air quality was so bad, they wouldnt let kids out to play during lunch.

Edit: 405 freeway showing signs that go to Bakersfield. thats odd.

look 171 05-03-2021 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Nostril Cheese (Post 11319547)
Seen many a punk rock show at the Palladium. Also miss Dupar's. We had one 2 blocks from my house. Good food. I remember when they tore it down.

The one thing abut that video... how terrible the air looks. I cant imagine LA smog in the 60s. I DO remember Smog Days in the early 80s. Basically, the air quality was so bad, they wouldnt let kids out to play during lunch.

Edit: 405 freeway showing signs that go to Bakersfield. thats odd.

Oh yeah, smog alert. No Playing on the playground today. Sucks, hate those days. What part of LA are you from?

Really, you like the food at Dupar's? I have it at the one in Studio City. Its was like eating at Denny's. Nothing to write home about. Now, Jerry's Deli is another story.

That looks like the northern section of the 405 near the 118 because of the bridges. That would make sense but the 14 wasn't around in the 60s?

Nostril Cheese 05-03-2021 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 11319550)
Oh yeah, smog alert. No Playing on the playground today. Sucks, hate those days. What part of LA are you from?

Really, you like the food at Dupar's? I have it at the one in Studio City. Its was like eating at Denny's. Nothing to write home about. Now, Jerry's Deli is another story.

That looks like the northern section of the 405 near the 118 because of the bridges. That would make sense but the 14 wasn't around in the 60s?

Lived in Hawthorne/Inglewood til I was 12 (police shooting in backyard), then moved to Thousand Oaks (back when it was nothing but horses and western movie sets)

The Dupar's in Thousand Oaks was good.

405 hits the 5/14 split . 5 heads to Bakersfield. 14 heads to Lancaster

look 171 05-03-2021 08:23 PM

Inglewood has turned around and many houses are sold to normal people that have good jobs. It was bad in the 70s up to about 2000.

What state are you in now? You couldn't wait go get out of CA. I wanted CO due to construction boom after college but decided to tough it out and already established myself a bit by then.

Nostril Cheese 05-03-2021 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 11319559)
Inglewood has turned around and many houses are sold to normal people that have good jobs. It was bad in the 70s up to about 2000.

What state are you in now? You couldn't wait go get out of CA. I wanted CO due to construction boom after college but decided to tough it out and already established myself a bit by then.

Im in Portland, OR. Lived here on and off for almost 15 years now. I enjoy it, though it does get a little much at times (save the leafy green butt mites!)I'm actually going back to LA on the 7th to do some dirt bike riding with my brother up in Gorman.

I was aware about Inglewood. My Nana used to live right on the Hawthorne/inglewood border. Somehow, her 3 bedroom built in the 50 is now worth close to a million. Grandpa used to say that Inglewood was like Beverly Hills in the 1960s.

TCracingCA 05-03-2021 09:00 PM

I was going to go to Lion Country Safari last week, but found out it closed like 37 years ago. 🥺

Baz 05-03-2021 09:06 PM

Makes me think about a time in our country when things were not so upside down......

look 171 05-03-2021 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Baz (Post 11319589)
Makes me think about a time in our country when things were not so upside down......

I think its always been upside down, we were too young to noticed it and had other interests.

look 171 05-03-2021 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TCracingCA (Post 11319586)
I was going to go to Lion Country Safari last week, but found out it closed like 37 years ago. 🥺


I think they moved to San Marcos and were called that for many years. Now its the SD Wide Animal Park. We were there about 12 years ago when my kid was very young.

look 171 05-03-2021 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Nostril Cheese (Post 11319564)
Im in Portland, OR. Lived here on and off for almost 15 years now. I enjoy it, though it does get a little much at times (save the leafy green butt mites!)I'm actually going back to LA on the 7th to do some dirt bike riding with my brother up in Gorman.

I was aware about Inglewood. My Nana used to live right on the Hawthorne/inglewood border. Somehow, her 3 bedroom built in the 50 is now worth close to a million. Grandpa used to say that Inglewood was like Beverly Hills in the 1960s.

Many white folks had been buying em' up in Inglewood as well as Baldwin Hills.

Have fun playing in the dirt. My kid and I were up there a couple weeks in his 4 runner. Rock cut a big chunk out of the sidewall. We limped home. I hope they keep that area wild and no more building. I drove through Pine Mt Club. Its has so many new homes up there, all occupied. Where the hell are these people coming from? Good for real estate prices.

Nostril Cheese 05-03-2021 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Baz (Post 11319589)
Makes me think about a time in our country when things were not so upside down......

The Valley always sucked.

Nostril Cheese 05-03-2021 09:29 PM

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Nostril Cheese 05-03-2021 09:32 PM

Loved these when I was a kid... I wanted to go down to the Old Towne Mall and meet this guy...

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look 171 05-03-2021 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Nostril Cheese (Post 11319598)

Or Kwest. I was surprise KLOS lasted all these years. I think they finally called it quits 10 or 15 years ago.

smadsen 05-03-2021 10:25 PM

Common theme. Real estate values killed auto race tracks and drive-in movies. Condos & strip malls have a higher ROI. Cal Speedway is next.

drcoastline 05-03-2021 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 11319519)
The best thing about that video is the end. 93 KHJ. That's been burned into my brain from years of hanging out at the park on our dead end street. All the older girls use to play that damn station since I was old enough to play there.

That's funny, I have been listening to this for a week straight. and what is the red convertible interior in that last video?

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gtc 05-04-2021 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 11319590)
I think its always been upside down, we were too young to noticed it and had other interests.

Exactly. I'm sure every generation going back to the Pilgrims has thought things need to stay the way they were when they were 16.

sammyg2 05-04-2021 11:40 AM

These are very dated (1995 and 2006) but relevant to the topic

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sammyg2 05-04-2021 11:45 AM

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Tishabet 05-04-2021 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by gtc (Post 11320229)
Exactly. I'm sure every generation going back to the Pilgrims has thought things need to stay the way they were when they were 16.

+1, today is perennially tomorrow's "good old days."

Well listen
Well the modern world is not so bad
Not like the students say
In fact I'd be in heaven
If you'd share the modern world with me
With me in love with the U.S.A. now
With me in love with the modern world now
Put down the cigarette
And share the modern world with me

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Scott Douglas 05-04-2021 12:52 PM

It's funny, I was born in NJ and grew up in a coastal town here in SoCal.
First DJ I remember was Wink Martindale.
The thing I remember most about life back then was the crappy air quality. Smog so thick you could cut it with a knife.
Can remember driving down to Torrance to see my aunt and uncle, before there was a 405 fwy and there were still strawberry fields lining Hawthorne Blvd south of Del Amo.

flatbutt 05-04-2021 12:53 PM

The original Stone Pony in Asbury is something I miss. It isn't an old icon opening as recently as 1974 but it was a great little dive. I saw the Boss, Southside Johnny, Bon Jovi live and up close there.

Now it's a much bigger venue with an outdoor stage.

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sugarwood 05-04-2021 02:19 PM

Drive in. Obsolete and terrible compared to modern home theaters. Maybe we should go back to covered wagons?

Tervuren 05-04-2021 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 11319590)
I think its always been upside down, we were too young to noticed it and had other interests.

Where you look and how hard you look is a part of it.
Compare 2021 Life to 1945 Dresden.
At any point in history some place in the world seems to have some downs.
Some other place might have some ups.

Baz 05-04-2021 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 11319590)
I think its always been upside down, we were too young to noticed it and had other interests.

Not as upside down as it is now.......:eek:

look 171 05-04-2021 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 11320337)
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I never got to cruise Van Nuys Blvd. I was way too young but only heard about it when I was about 10. By then, it was all over. This was in the

look 171 05-04-2021 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tervuren (Post 11320578)
Where you look and how hard you look is a part of it.
Compare 2021 Life to 1945 Dresden.
At any point in history some place in the world seems to have some downs.
Some other place might have some ups.

My father was born around the WW2. He always told me things aren't so bad compared to when he was a kid.

Baz 05-04-2021 05:46 PM

Some very cynical lyrics here....great song though..... :)

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look 171 05-04-2021 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Baz (Post 11320617)
Not as upside down as it is now.......:eek:

I know and agree with you. Being a few year over 50, I can't stand the way typical younger folks think, that I mean people in their 30s.

One thing I always thought of was the hippies. I can't imagine how their parents, the conservative (that would be us now) greatest generation must think of them? Pot head, long hair, dirty, devil music and jobless hitching hiking across the country. What a mess, but many turned out OK. I am sure this entitles generation will be OK too, in time. I worry about the kids in high school today. I listen to their parents and I shake my head in shame. Wait until they get to their 30. We are screw if they continue down this path.

svandamme 05-06-2021 01:01 PM

it's the same all over the world where real estate gets crowded and expands out in open space, and environmental noise pollution ordnances and what not take over.

Mankind peaked in the previous century, somewhere in the latter half.
Now we are to compromised to peak at anything except people count.

drcoastline 05-06-2021 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 11320433)
The original Stone Pony in Asbury is something I miss. It isn't an old icon opening as recently as 1974 but it was a great little dive. I saw the Boss, Southside Johnny, Bon Jovi live and up close there.

Now it's a much bigger venue with an outdoor stage.

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I was there a few times. By shear luck I was standing out front when it was announced Clarence passed. It was a sad day.

sammyg2 05-06-2021 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 11320677)
I never got to cruise Van Nuys Blvd. I was way too young but only heard about it when I was about 10. By then, it was all over. This was in the

Van Nuys was too far away, we cruised state college blvd and occasionally went all the way to Whittier Blvd. when our cars were running good. That was the big league for us ;)

That was back in the day when a cop caught you with a six pack of beer and you were only 18, he'd make you pour it out on the side of the street and give you a warning.
IF you were smart enough to say yes sir and no sir and tell him the truth.

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jcwade 05-06-2021 03:11 PM

I remember all of those places and frequented many of them.
Particularly the drive-ins in the SFV.
I remember the air in the 60's as a kid.
If you went out and played you would come in gasping for air.
And you couldn't see the mountains except after a rain storm.

sammyg2 06-01-2021 12:05 PM

circa 1959
like endless summer, only for drag racers instead of surfers

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