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pmax 05-05-2021 09:11 AM

It's just simple plastic fittings and crap. You can do it, no pressure ! Just make sure no one uses the toilet :)

Looks like one might have already been replaced with the Y as circled in green.

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11320838)
OK, I bit the bullet. I really didn't want to crawl under the house. It had some seriously black, sticky mud/dirt. It was probably only 8-12 feet from the entrance. I did what I said, telescoping PVC, hole drilled through both with a bent nail through. The bigger pipe's end was cut in a V (like a mouth, not a spear). When I pulled the cap, a little bit of toilet paper and water came out but not much, a cup or two.

Watch out for the black widows !

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11320683)
I did once pull the snake out and found the last inch was full of what seemed to be super fine roots. I was afraid that the issue was due to the small snake not really cleaning them out enough, and with spring coming on, maybe more have grown.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1620234688.jpg

masraum 05-05-2021 09:21 AM

I had my eyes open, but there doesn't seem to be anything living under the house (which is great, IMO).

pmax 05-05-2021 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11321578)
I had my eyes open, but there doesn't seem to be anything living under the house (which is great, IMO).

You gotta crawl under at night and have a look with a flashlight, don't leave it on for too long or they'll hide !

In the daytime, look for the webs.

masraum 05-05-2021 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by pmax (Post 11321649)
You gotta crawl under at night and have a look with a flashlight, don't leave it on for too long or they'll hide !

In the daytime, look for the webs.

Hahah. Yep, I saw no webs while I was down there which was surprising (but made me quite happy).

Yes, I was down there with a flash/headlight in the last 30 mins before sunset. It wasn't pitch black, but it was pretty dark.

I've actually been very surprised that I've seen very few spiders since we've moved in. I've only recently seen a couple of small ones outside the house. I haven't seen any inside the garage which seems like it'd be prime territory for spiders, and I haven't seen any under the house or inside the house.

I'm sure it's only a matter of time.

And, apparently, there are tarantulas in the area. I haven't seen any, but some folks from the neighboring county have posted photos on facebook of tarantulas that they've run across.

If I was under the house and ran into a tarantula, I don't think it would go well for either of us.

Scott Douglas 05-05-2021 10:54 AM

My brother and his son were doing some rearranging out in the shops and ran across this guy hiding under some siding he had stored between the shop buildings.
Let's hope you don't run into any of them under the house.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1620240820.jpg

wdfifteen 05-05-2021 11:54 AM

There are some jobs that I just won't DIY. Crawling under a house with bugs and snakes and whatnot is where I turn to my superpower to solve the problem.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1620244426.jpg

masraum 05-05-2021 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 11321814)
There are some jobs that I just won't DIY. Crawling under a house with bugs and snakes and whatnot is where I turn to my superpower to solve the problem.

I was thiiiiiiiiiiis close to going that route.

I also want to swap out the lid or lids on my septic tank. The one on the first tank has been hit by the mower, and is broken. I managed to get the lid off (not that hard) and then back on (huge PITA) yesterday. I'd either like something that's not cement, or something cement with handles, preferably handles that drop down when not in use.

What I found especially crazy when searching the 'Net for photos of septic tanks was how many had square access holes and lids. It seems insane to have anything other than a round hole/lid, at least, if it's concrete.

MBAtarga 05-05-2021 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 11321814)
There are some jobs that I just won't DIY. Crawling under a house with bugs and snakes and whatnot is where I turn to my superpower to solve the problem.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1620244426.jpg

That card is neat! What does the other side look like?

masraum 05-05-2021 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by pmax (Post 11322016)
Mother nature defeats that superpower especially in the middle of the night or evening or outside working hours.

You've just got to keep bumping the number up. Eventually someone will come out on nights and weekends if you're willing to ring up enough $$$

pmax 05-05-2021 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11322021)
You've just got to keep bumping the number up. Eventually someone will come out on nights and weekends if you're willing to ring up enough $$$

Yeah, a lot can happen in the hours while waiting for them to show up. And guess who has to calm down the fam during that time ?

dad911 05-05-2021 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11321819)
I was thiiiiiiiiiiis close to going that route.

I also want to swap out the lid or lids on my septic tank. The one on the first tank has been hit by the mower, and is broken. I managed to get the lid off (not that hard) and then back on (huge PITA) yesterday. I'd either like something that's not cement, ..........

For safety lid should be locking or bolted, with a riser to grade. Find a supplier, they will know what's 'legal' for your area.

wdfifteen 05-05-2021 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MBAtarga (Post 11321942)
That card is neat! What does the other side look like?

I like it that it has my image on the front. The other side doesn’t have my picture on it, so you would be bored.

wdfifteen 05-05-2021 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11321819)
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It seems insane to have anything other than a round hole/lid, at least, if it's concrete.

In my experience the square lids have been for the risers. The tanks themselves have always had round covers. Drop a square lid into a riser and you just reach down and get it out. Drop a square lid into a tank and YEEEOWWW!!!

Jolly Amaranto 05-05-2021 03:06 PM

We get our share of critters at the country place in Milam County.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1620255928.JPG
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A930Rocket 05-05-2021 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BK911 (Post 11321419)
The fitting circled in green is questionable, but I would probably let it slide if all else was ok. The two in red are just wrong and will cause blockage every Wednesday after taco Tuesday.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1620230008.jpg

That’s what I was saying. No way that meets code.

masraum 05-05-2021 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jolly Amaranto (Post 11322100)

And out of the bunch, the bottom one would freak me out the most.

Apparently, those are not far from here either. I don't know if they have them right here, but there are folks that aren't that far away that say they have them.

john70t 05-06-2021 08:17 AM

Cut and angle it up with "y" connections?
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1620317868.jpg

BK911 05-06-2021 08:31 AM

I am about as cheap as they come.
No way I am crawling under a house to mess with poop pipe.
You have to excavate around the joints, then cut the pipe, then fab and glue the new pipe.
I'm with Patrick; american express time!

pmax 05-06-2021 01:05 PM

Looks like you have 3 ft of crawl space ... go for it !

masraum 05-06-2021 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pmax (Post 11323259)
Looks like you have 3 ft of crawl space ... go for it !

Looks can be deceiving. I suspect it ranges from 12 or 14" up to about 20-24".

It's doable, but not terribly pleasant.

john70t 05-06-2021 02:31 PM

Rake it smooth and put down some big cardboard.

Even though there is an airspace, might even consider some plastic to keep ground moisture from traveling upwards.

masraum 05-06-2021 03:02 PM

I'm wondering what, if anything, I could or should (or shouldn't) do to insulate the bottom of the house.

Zeke 05-06-2021 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 11322397)
That’s what I was saying. No way that meets code.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1620230008.jpg
Unless the red one on the left is a wet vent. It will work and meet code since there is a clean out in line with the waste line. Would it have been better with an "L"? Sure.

masraum 05-06-2021 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 11323430)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1620230008.jpg
Unless the red one on the left is a wet vent. It will work and meet code since there is a clean out in line with the waste line. Would it have been better with an "L"? Sure.

The one on the left is waste/drain from bathroom sink, shower, tub, and toilet.

BK911 05-07-2021 03:16 AM

The 90 on the left is fine, but not the Wye it discharges into.
Replace 90 with 45 and replace Wye with long sweep Wye.
Then replace right Wye with long sweep Wye.
Not difficult but still.

URY914 05-07-2021 08:50 AM

Are those 6" pipes? In a house?

masraum 05-07-2021 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 11324029)
Are those 6" pipes? In a house?

No real idea how big they are. They probably aren't 6". The "nut" on the end of the clean-out cap was a little smaller than 1.75". So looking at the photo, I'm going to say the cap was 3", so I guess that means that the ID of the biggest pipe was 3".

If I said 6" before, that's my mistake. I don't have tons of PVC experience and always forget that it's ID, not OD, and then estimating size from 10-15' away in the dark is not my strong suit.

URY914 05-07-2021 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11324040)
No real idea how big they are. They probably aren't 6". The "nut" on the end of the clean-out cap was a little smaller than 1.75". So looking at the photo, I'm going to say the cap was 3", so I guess that means that the ID of the biggest pipe was 3".

If I said 6" before, that's my mistake. I don't have tons of PVC experience and always forget that it's ID, not OD, and then estimating size from 10-15' away in the dark is not my strong suit.

I think it looks like 6" from the pics. I just think that is big for a house. But maybe you like your salads and beans. Good luck

cabmandone 05-07-2021 10:03 AM

Looks like 4 to me. Can't believe we're on page 4 on a subject about poop pipes.

cabmandone 05-07-2021 10:06 AM

Just remember, sh.t don't flow uphill and the liquid can't outrun the solids or the pipes get plugged with poo.

URY914 05-07-2021 10:18 AM

...and hots on the left, colds on the right.

BK911 05-07-2021 10:29 AM

I would bet its a 3" line.

cabmandone 05-07-2021 10:37 AM

How much are we betting?

Only reason I think it's 4 is the 2" coming into the back side of that Y in the pic above that then hits the 90 and goes to the pipe in the ground. Looks like 4 to me.

Jolly Amaranto 05-07-2021 10:45 AM

At least the pipes I have been dealing with at the "country" place are out in the open when you dig out around them to expose them. Here I was adding a run to another building and taping into the main where it comes out from under the slab. Had to dig very carefully as there are all the other utilities buried there too. Fresh water, propane, power, telephone and TV coax going to another building. I stuck a long sweep elbow in the existing pipe to tap into. Also added clean outs on both the black water and gray water lines for good measure while I had everything exposed.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1620413048.JPG

pmax 05-07-2021 11:17 AM

Crawl under and measure it before this escalates !

daepp 05-07-2021 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pmax (Post 11324214)
Crawl under and measure it before this escalates !

Hahahah - middle aged guys on an internet forum, I'd expect nothing less. And I'm just as guilty as the next guy, so I'm all in at 4".

cabmandone 05-07-2021 02:48 PM

We gotta make sure Steve doesn't bet though and keep him from being influenced by BK because Steve said he thinks it's a 3".

masraum 05-07-2021 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pmax (Post 11324214)
Crawl under and measure it before this escalates !

Hahahah, don't hold your breath. I'm pretty unlikely to get back under there unless I really have to.

cabmandone 05-07-2021 03:07 PM

You have to! This must be settled!

URY914 05-07-2021 04:24 PM

Please!


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