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flatbutt 05-10-2021 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Wetwork (Post 11327315)
CGIS is like NCIS...they investigate their own members...I could have been on the prize crew or boarding officer (in-charge) as a simple E-4, E-5. I was a boarding team member as a E-3 packing heat and everything when I was 18 years old, right out of high school he-he. They give us way too responsibility in the CG still wet behind the ears. -WW

ps...If its a US flagged boat, or any boat operating in US waters, I didn't even need a warrant of any kind. I said "Heave too and prepare to be boarded". And you had better have listened. All legal and everything. Huge responsibility which I think we preformed pretty well.

Then how does the USN get away with doing this without the flag nation permission?

Wetwork 05-10-2021 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 11327523)
Then how does the USN get away with doing this without the flag nation permission?

Easy, someone on the squid boat called HQ and asked, "Who's boat is this, they're acting shady?" The shady boat probably had a flag flying off their stern with a homeport and country painted so our State Dept just called the home country painted on the stern. The shady boat probably wouldn't answer any hail's on the radio, trying to be sneaky. Or shut off their AIS. Shady stuff.

Just as a example. If it had a Maldives flag or Comore's flag we just call their government and asked if they claim it..it has their flag flying. Then when they ask why? we say "we think its doing shady stuff." They always say they never heard of 'em. That makes them stateless...no homeport, no country will claim them. Pirates in the day's of sail would fly a friendly flag until the last instant then drop it and pull a Jolly Roger as they tacked in for a broadside.

This arms smuggler was deemed "Stateless" so it was fair game. Whatever was painted on the stern for a home country threw them under the bus. And just in case there's confusion between a act of war and running down pirate scum, they have the Coastie's assault cuz we fill the slot between war and law enforcement. -WW

flatbutt 05-11-2021 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Wetwork (Post 11327571)
Easy, someone on the squid boat called HQ and asked, "Who's boat is this, they're acting shady?" The shady boat probably had a flag flying off their stern with a homeport and country painted so our State Dept just called the home country painted on the stern. The shady boat probably wouldn't answer any hail's on the radio, trying to be sneaky. Or shut off their AIS. Shady stuff.

Just as a example. If it had a Maldives flag or Comore's flag we just call their government and asked if they claim it..it has their flag flying. Then when they ask why? we say "we think its doing shady stuff." They always say they never heard of 'em. That makes them stateless...no homeport, no country will claim them. Pirates in the day's of sail would fly a friendly flag until the last instant then drop it and pull a Jolly Roger as they tacked in for a broadside.

This arms smuggler was deemed "Stateless" so it was fair game. Whatever was painted on the stern for a home country threw them under the bus. And just in case there's confusion between a act of war and running down pirate scum, they have the Coastie's assault cuz we fill the slot between war and law enforcement. -WW

Outstanding!

kach22i 05-11-2021 05:11 AM

I bet they lose their insurance carrier over this.

GH85Carrera 05-11-2021 12:44 PM

There must be a big profit margin in arms smuggling, to absorb the cost of that load of weapons.

I wonder if the source of the weapons was a military unit that had them stolen, or were they made as contraband weapons and sold as such? Someone just took a big loss of money and product.

I hope the entire chain of smugglers kill each other off.

svandamme 05-12-2021 03:04 AM

This amount of guns smuggled, I would think it's state organized smuggling.
DPRK to Iran
Iran to Yemen
China to Iran
Whatever.

it's not about "policing", it's about politics in the region
Somebody sold guns to somebody the US don't like
Had it been guns going towards a rebel group planning to overthrow the Ayatollah, the Police in this story wouldn't have batted an eyelid.

drcoastline 05-12-2021 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 11327490)
Probably no AR 14s. So your post (as well as your agenda) is irrelevant to this thread.

I'd say it is spot on.


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