Didn't know the Navy did stuff like this

[Shaun @ Tru6]

We are definitely the Policemen of the World, and probably the only ones.

The weapons seizure so big it covered the rear deck of a 567-foot US warship

By Brad Lendon, CNN
Updated 5:53 AM ET, Mon May 10, 2021

(CNN) A joint US Navy and Coast Guard team seized thousands of illicit weapons last week after stopping a small ship in the North Arabian Sea, the Navy said in a statement.
The cruiser USS Monterey stopped the stateless dhow on May 6 during a routine operation to verify its registry, the Navy said.
A US Coast Guard Advanced Interdiction Team deployed on the Navy ship then boarded the dhow and found the weapons stash.

An SH-60 Sea Hawk helicopter assigned to the guided-missile cruiser USS Monterey flies above a stateless dhow interdicted with a shipment of illicit weapons in international waters of the North Arabian Sea on May 6, 2021.
The massive arms haul covered much of the rear flight deck of the 567-foot (173-meter) US warship after it was transferred over in what the Navy said was a two-day operation.

"The cache of weapons included dozens of advanced Russian-made anti-tank guided missiles, thousands of Chinese Type 56 assault rifles, and hundreds of PKM machine guns, sniper rifles and rocket-propelled grenade launchers. Other weapon components included advanced optical sights," the Navy statement said.

The origin and destination of the weapons is under investigation but previous arms shipments confiscated by the US Navy under similar circumstances were bound for Houthi rebels in Yemen, Lt. Cmdr. Pete Pagano, a spokesperson for the Navy's Fifth Fleet told CNN in an email Monday.
Pagano cited three similar seizures by the Fifth Fleet in recent years.

On February 12, the guided-missile destroyer USS Winston Churchill stopped two dhows off the coast of Somali, which were carrying weapons including rocket-propelled grenade launchers, crew-served weapons and small arms.
On February 9, 2020, the cruiser USS Normandy stopped a dhow in the Arabian Sea and seized missile components.
And on November 25, 2019, the destroyer USS Forrest Sherman found missile components on a dhow it stopped in the Arabian Sea.

The Navy also said the weapons seized last week will remain in US custody while the investigation is ongoing.
After the dhow stopped last week was deemed seaworthy and its crew was questioned, they were provided with food and water and released, according to the statement.

[Skytrooper]

Yes they do and have done for a long time.

[unclebilly]

What jurisdiction are they working under to do this in international waters?

[wdfifteen]

The lesson in this story is if you are going to smuggle weapons don’t do it in a dhow.

[flatbutt]

Originally Posted by unclebilly

What jurisdiction are they working under to do this in international waters?

I think DoD personnel are prohibited from law enforcement everywhere so maybe they had a CGIS agent on board. IIRC the Coast Guard can get permission from the flag nation to board and search in internat'l waters.

[Rick Lee]

Who's breaking what law here that justifies this seizure? Is there an int'l. arms embargo against Yemen that the US is responsible for enforcing? I know no navy can really challenge ours in that neck of the woods. But how is this not outright piracy?

[Norm K]

Maybe we can flip `em to the good guys.

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[1990C4S]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

Who's breaking what law here that justifies this seizure? Is there an int'l. arms embargo against Yemen that the US is responsible for enforcing? I know no navy can really challenge ours in that neck of the woods. But how is this not outright piracy?

There is something called the concept of universal jurisdiction in international waters. Any country can intervene to stop 'criminal activity'. In this case the US seized the weapons, so that's probably the end of it. I believe that charges would have to be based in the country where the ship is registered.

I have no idea if the shipment was illegal, but it's a moot point now. The bigger ship won the battle. It may, in fact, have been an act of piracy.

[BK911]

Originally Posted by Skytrooper

Yes they do and have done for a long time.

I have been part of operations with the coast guard in US waters.
Mainly drug running near the keys.
Never knew they did these OPs overseas too.

[911boost]

Too bad they didn't just chuck all of those into the ocean.

[stevej37]

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6

This is why PP needs a 'Misc. Classified' section.

[vash]

Originally Posted by 911boost

Too bad they didn't just chuck all of those into the ocean.

then those that bashed Benchmade would bash the Navy!!


I feel sorry for the poor lowly sailor that needs to jot down all the serial numbers. I bet it took days to stack them up like that.

I would bulldoze those overboard. after I launched a rocket at something

[masraum]

Originally Posted by BK911

I have been part of operations with the coast guard in US waters.
Mainly drug running near the keys.
Never knew they did these OPs overseas too.

I never knew the CG ran drugs near the keys!



j/k

[gary1101]

My son had pirate duty off the coast of Somalia around 2010 aboard a Navy missile cruiser. In addition to pirate patrol they dropped off and picked up Seal teams along the way. The had a Coast Guard officer on board if an arrest was needed.

[varmint]

in the old days the crew would get to take their pick of the confiscated weapons as a reward. better times.

[Wetwork]

They have to have a CG team, or fly one in. LEDET's or TACLET's. Navy can't enforce stuff like that. Without it being a act of aggression or war.

So a quick sat phone call to State Dept...they call the country the vessels is flagged with. That country quickly denies that they know of said vessel to keep sanctions from being imposed. Basically their own country say's "Never heard of them" and poof you have a stateless vessel (pirate) and then you send in the boarding team.

If you look at the boarding team boats even though they are Navy craft, you'll see they have to fly a CG ensign and have a CG Boarding Officer on the prize crew. Little know much feared Shallow Water Sailors.-WW

[Wetwork]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

I think DoD personnel are prohibited from law enforcement everywhere so maybe they had a CGIS agent on board. IIRC the Coast Guard can get permission from the flag nation to board and search in internat'l waters.

CGIS is like NCIS...they investigate their own members...I could have been on the prize crew or boarding officer (in-charge) as a simple E-4, E-5. I was a boarding team member as a E-3 packing heat and everything when I was 18 years old, right out of high school he-he. They give us way too responsibility in the CG still wet behind the ears. -WW

ps...If its a US flagged boat, or any boat operating in US waters, I didn't even need a warrant of any kind. I said "Heave too and prepare to be boarded". And you had better have listened. All legal and everything. Huge responsibility which I think we preformed pretty well.

[drcoastline]

Originally Posted by wdfifteen

The lesson in this story is if you are going to smuggle weapons don’t do it in a dhow.

The lesson is Illegal guns will flow regardless of law. Do not ban the AR14 and 100 round clips.

Those guns weren't making their way into Chicago from Indianapolis, Mississippi or Wisconsin.

BTW- how many AR 14's in that load?

[gtc]

Originally Posted by vash

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I would bulldoze those overboard. after I launched a rocket at something

Give everyone on the edge of the deck one of the machine guns, and shoot some trap with the rocket launcher!

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by drcoastline

The lesson is Illegal guns will flow regardless of law. Do not ban the AR14 and 100 round clips.
Those guns weren't making their way into Chicago from Indianapolis, Mississippi or Wisconsin.
BTW- how many AR 14's in that load?

Probably no AR 14s. So your post (as well as your agenda) is irrelevant to this thread.