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cabmandone 05-12-2021 03:12 AM

We live in a fear driven society
 
With all the "shortages" and people panic buying, it strikes me that we live in a society driven by fear. I've always said that fear and free are two of the strongest motivators of people.

Looking at recent events we've had people panic buying toilet paper, yeast, flour, AMMO gas and now chlorine. Companies have to absolutely love the fear driven consumer. They'll pay the price because we may never see it again!

Fear/Panic induced shortages. It makes me shake my head in disbelief sometimes.

I went to Rural King yesterday to grab some chlorine to open my pool... all out. Sing read "due to chlorine shortage customers will be limited to two cases per day" Didn't panic. Just thought to myself what the best path forward is and bought a saltwater chlorine generator. Now I won't be part of the problem! During the heat of pandemic panic buying, I'd see yeast... I'd grab one or two packets if I needed some for making pizza dough. Be rational folks! buy what you need and leave some for others who need it too. Is that asking too much?

oldE 05-12-2021 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11329004)
I've always said that fear and free are two of the strongest motivators of people.

Fear and what?

Some of the behaviour seems to be people wanting to be social, to fit in with what others (who are in the know) are doing.
Kids in school want to be part of the in crowd. Adults with no real idea want to keep up with whatever.

Best
Les

cabmandone 05-12-2021 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by oldE (Post 11329008)
Fear and what?

Some of the behaviour seems to be people wanting to be social, to fit in with what others (who are in the know) are doing.
Kids in school want to be part of the in crowd. Adults with no real idea want to keep up with whatever.

Best
Les

Free.
See "Zero percent interest" for a point of reference. There is no such thing as zero percent interest but somehow car, construction equipment, compact utility manufacturers have made people believe that zero percent is real. Ignore that if you don't use the 0% you get a discount of $X... Its free money!!

svandamme 05-12-2021 03:38 AM

well off course....
NRA: they coming to take yer guns
SELL SELL SELL
Shortages

How many guns have actually been taken in the last 20 years?

stevej37 05-12-2021 03:51 AM

[QUOTE
Sing read "due to chlorine shortage customers will be limited to two cases per day" [/QUOTE]



I have a fear of singing in public. :D

oldE 05-12-2021 04:00 AM

Okay, now I get you.
Funny how I remember someone telling me there was no such thing as a free lunch.
It is interesting however that many folks will spend money they haven't got on stuff they don't need, because their neighbor, or worse some celebrity says they should.
I suppose that too is fear of being left out.

Best
Les

cabmandone 05-12-2021 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 11329024)
well off course....
NRA: they coming to take yer guns
SELL SELL SELL
Shortages

How many guns have actually been taken in the last 20 years?

Kind of my point. No one looks at things rationally.

cabmandone 05-12-2021 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by oldE (Post 11329038)
Okay, now I get you.
Funny how I remember someone telling me there was no such thing as a free lunch.
It is interesting however that many folks will spend money they haven't got on stuff they don't need, because their neighbor, or worse some celebrity says they should.
I suppose that too is fear:of being left out.

Best
Les

That goes to people wanting to fit in or be liked or "hang with the popular crowd". Wear these shoes or pants or shirt or jewelry or glasses and you can be like them! Not sure it's fear driven but driven by a desire to fit in. I suppose the fear of not fitting in could be the motivator.

wdfifteen 05-12-2021 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11329009)
Ignore that if you don't use the 0% you get a discount of $X... Its free money!!

That wasn’t the case when I bought my Kubota 11 years ago. Cash, self finance, their 0% was all the same price. It was the only thing I’ve financed in 30 years.

LEAKYSEALS951 05-12-2021 04:56 AM

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onewhippedpuppy 05-12-2021 05:23 AM

Because the average person is a sheep. They are unable to think on their own or go against the herd and they look to others to think for them and protect them. The last 1.5 years of CV hysteria is exhibit one.

cabmandone 05-12-2021 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 11329071)
That wasn’t the case when I bought my Kubota 11 years ago. Cash, self finance, their 0% was all the same price. It was the only thing I’ve financed in 30 years.

I suppose there are rare exceptions to the rule but 99.999% of the time 0% comes with an option of cash in lieu of..

onewhippedpuppy 05-12-2021 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11329109)
I suppose there are rare exceptions to the rule but 99.999% of the time 0% comes with an option of cash in lieu of..

Yes almost always. Typically on a vehicle it means you have to buy at MSRP, no negotiating the price.

pwd72s 05-12-2021 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 11329024)
well off course....
NRA: they coming to take yer guns
SELL SELL SELL
Shortages

How many guns have actually been taken in the last 20 years?

Ask an Australian...

gordner 05-12-2021 11:58 AM

And the fact you have to go to another continent to find evidence is not indicative of the lack of foundation to the disarmament fear?

id10t 05-12-2021 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by gordner (Post 11329501)
And the fact you have to go to another continent to find evidence is not indicative of the lack of foundation to the disarmament fear?

No. Look at Canada.

Tervuren 05-12-2021 12:12 PM

The disarmament fear is driven by real positions taken by people in office trying to tip the balance of power farther and farther away.

I did find myself wondering if I should go fill up the cars.
Decided I like walking and my bike, if gasoline dissapears, I'll still get around.
Will just take more trips and smaller loads.

gordner 05-12-2021 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by id10t (Post 11329512)
No. Look at Canada.

Well, at least we are on the same continent now, getting warmer.

There is no point looking any where else, the American's relationship with the fire arm is a unique one. No where else is it fetishized like it is by the USA.

thor66 05-12-2021 01:16 PM

Because the average person is a sheep. They are unable to think on their own or go against the herd and they look to others to think for them and protect them. The last 1.5 years of anti-mask and anit-vax hysteria is exhibit one.

cabmandone 05-12-2021 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by thor66 (Post 11329596)
Because the average person is a sheep. They are unable to think on their own or go against the herd and they look to others to think for them and protect them. The last 1.5 years of anti-mask and anit-vax hysteria is exhibit one.

Technically the sheep are the group wearing a mask because they're told to. They did no research into the potential benefit. They just put it on to show how much they "care".

gsxrken 05-12-2021 02:00 PM

“Free” should disturb every contributor to society regardless of whether they watch CNN or Fox; there’s no such thing as “government funded”.

WE fund it.

cabmandone 05-12-2021 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxrken (Post 11329670)
“Free” should disturb every contributor to society regardless of whether they watch CNN or Fox; there’s no such thing as “government funded”.

WE fund it.

Sadly there are getting to be less and less people who understand that. It's almost as if no one younger than 30 has ever been taught how the government is funded.

thor66 05-12-2021 02:04 PM

Technically, the sheep are the group not wearing a mask because they're told to. They did no research into the potential benefit. They just take it off to show how much they "care" about nutballery.

cabmandone 05-12-2021 02:06 PM

^^^
Troll on brother!

thor66 05-12-2021 02:12 PM

Don't be a troll, cabo

cabmandone 05-12-2021 02:28 PM

Get it my man! Show em how it's done.

drcoastline 05-12-2021 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thor66 (Post 11329676)
Technically, the sheep are the group not wearing a mask because they're told to. They did no research into the potential benefit. They just take it off to show how much they "care" about nutballery.

Realistically the sheep are the group wearing a mask because they're told to. They did no research into the potential benefit. They just wear it to show how much they "care"

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1620858100.jpg

onewhippedpuppy 05-12-2021 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drcoastline (Post 11329764)
Realistically the sheep are the group wearing a mask because they're told to. They did no research into the potential benefit. They just wear it to show how much they "care"

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1620858100.jpg

Because the TV and Facebook said so.

McLovin 05-12-2021 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 11329099)
Because the average person is a sheep. They are unable to think on their own or go against the herd and they look to others to think for them and protect them. The last 1.5 years of CV hysteria is exhibit one.

Indeed.
It’s been a Social Experiment with frightening results.

onewhippedpuppy 05-12-2021 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by McLovin (Post 11329771)
Indeed.
It’s been a Social Experiment with frightening results.

I sometimes wonder if our country has the balls for a 1776 revolution in the current context of society. Based on the results of the last 1.5 years my answer to that question is hell no.

Tobra 05-12-2021 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gordner (Post 11329547)
There is no point looking any where else, the American's relationship with the fire arm is a unique one. No where else is it fetishized like it is by the USA.

Nowhere else is the right to keep and bear arms guaranteed by law. Our problem is that certain politicians think of it more as a list of suggestions rather than rights

drcoastline 05-12-2021 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 11329778)
I sometimes wonder if our country has the balls for a 1776 revolution in the current context of society. Based on the results of the last 1.5 years my answer to that question is hell no.

As a whole no, but, I think if we researched and looked back the society that existed in 1776 as a whole didn't either. But enough did have the balls. Most people are followers and in todays society most are fat and lazy especially those we call poor.

Remember during the revolution it as those of means that fought. Those with something to lose. How many have something to lose in todays society?

IS300 05-12-2021 04:37 PM

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Tervuren 05-12-2021 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drcoastline (Post 11329790)
As a whole no, but, I think if we researched and looked back the society that existed in 1776 as a whole didn't either. But enough did have the balls. Most people are followers and in todays society most are fat and lazy especially those we call poor.

Remember during the revolution it as those of means that fought. Those with something to lose. How many have something to lose in todays society?

What was the recently banned insignia for a military outfit?

I seem to recall it had the percentage of revolutionaries in the colonies.

Something about three fingers?

Superman 05-12-2021 05:28 PM

I totally agree with Nick. I do not recommend checking out the discussions next door, but there is a LOT of fear there.

thor66 05-12-2021 05:57 PM

cancel fear culture

Bill Douglas 05-12-2021 06:00 PM

He explained that I have nothing to fear but fear itself. So I ran for it.

ramonesfreak 05-12-2021 07:52 PM

Blow up your TV throw away your paper
Go to the country, build you a home
Plant a little garden, eat a lot of peaches
Try an find Jesus on your own

herr_oberst 05-12-2021 08:08 PM

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john70t 05-13-2021 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by thor66 (Post 11329676)
They did no research into the potential benefit.

I posted long ago that the covid molecule was smaller than oxygen and that chlorine killed it. (trust the science)

I also gave you guys a hundred examples of why numbers were fraudulent, real cures were being made illegal, legal elections were made illegal, and that inbred cronyism in numerous sectors made the situation worse

The potential benefit?
Of what?
Total economic failure leads to the death of tens of millions.


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