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masraum 05-23-2021 12:30 PM

Gas stove options
 
I know the answer, but I have to ask.

Other than having natural gas at your home or having a propane tank installed at your home, is there any other way to gave a gas stove?

We've looked into getting a propane tank installed. Potential uses are heat, water and cooking, water and cooking or even just cooking.

If we were going to go with "just cooking" (to replace an existing electric range) without having to install a large tank a minimum of 10' from everything, are there any other ways to have a gas stove.

I'm pretty sure natural gas or a propane tank are the only options, but the missus wants me to check. I'm happy to be wrong.

stevej37 05-23-2021 12:35 PM

Natural gas is the lowest cost...if you have a line going down your road.
If not...it's expensive to get it.
The nat.gas line is a quarter mile from my place. The last estimate I had for getting it was $16K

Propane is next best. The bigger tank you get..the cheaper it is.

masraum 05-23-2021 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11340995)
Natural gas is the lowest cost...if you have a line going down your road.
If not...it's expensive to get it.
The nat.gas line is a quarter mile from my place. The last estimate I had for getting it was $16K

Propane is next best. The bigger tank you get..the cheaper it is.

We are VERY rural. Definitely no natural gas around.

We inquired about 250 and 500Gal tanks.

500Gal tank (to buy) ~$2000, installation of line to house with pressure testing ~$550, installation of line to stove and water heater is extra, then filling at current price to 80% full ~$950.

250Gal tank would be almost $1200 plus the same installation of line from tank to house and then plumbing lines from that line to location of stove and water heater and filling the tank being 1/2 as much as 500Gal.

I told the missus that if she wanted to just get propane for a range, we could get an even smaller tank, closer to 100Gal.

It seems like the cost for something that may not be our "forever home" doesn't make financial sense, but she'd like to be "cooking with gas." I've offered up the option of an induction stove as a good functional alternative (we've got a bunch of stainless pans that would work) although it wouldn't fit into the visual asthetic of the home as much as she'd like.

stevej37 05-23-2021 12:56 PM

I would go to Lowes or Menards and buy a stand-up propane tank.
For what you would use...it would be perfect.
https://www.menards.com/main/heating-cooling/propane-tanks/steel-100-lb-empty-propane-tank/ysn100/p-1491546053252-c-6878.htm?tid=-1226244373858720818&ipos=5

Fillable at almost any propane dealer.

masraum 05-23-2021 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11341019)
I would go to Lowes or Menards and buy a stand-up propane tank.
For what you would use...it would be perfect.
https://www.menards.com/main/heating-cooling/propane-tanks/steel-100-lb-empty-propane-tank/ysn100/p-1491546053252-c-6878.htm?tid=-1226244373858720818&ipos=5

Fillable at almost any propane dealer.

Ah, yeah I see 40# and 100#. I guess the only issue is that if anything ever happened the insurance company would want to know if the tank was plumbed in 10' from structures, etc....

stevej37 05-23-2021 01:46 PM

100 lb. tanks are heavily used around here.

Gives the customer the ability to 'shop around' for the best price. Can't do that with a 300 gal tank that needs a truck delivery.

Rusty Heap 05-23-2021 01:51 PM

https://www.rei.com/media/7eece5ab-1...f?size=784x588

Zeke 05-23-2021 02:29 PM

You want to be rustic, get a wood stove.

cabmandone 05-23-2021 06:13 PM

Y U hung up on the ten foot thing? Drop a tank 100 feet away and pipe it to the house. The plastic line and risers are relatively cheap.

Bill Douglas 05-23-2021 11:55 PM

My next oven is going to be electric with a gas cooktop. they say a BBQ sized gas cylinder lasts about a year.

masraum 05-24-2021 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11341237)
Y U hung up on the ten foot thing? Drop a tank 100 feet away and pipe it to the house. The plastic line and risers are relatively cheap.

Thanks, I'm not adverse to doing stuff myself. That sounds like the way to go.

masraum 05-24-2021 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 11341081)
You want to be rustic, get a wood stove.

I don't think the missus wants to cook on wood. That sounds like a lot more work and adjustment than either of us wants to deal with.

rfuerst911sc 05-24-2021 02:47 PM

Look on CL and Facebook Marketplace for used propane tanks . Propane has oil in it so the inside of a used tank generally is not rusted and in good shape . The outside can quickly be refreshed with a coat of paint . Just make sure it has a legible ID plate . Most LP providers need to record the data off that plate for their records . When you own the tank vs leasing the tank you can shop around for the best LP price .

908/930 05-24-2021 04:31 PM

I do not want to upset anybody here but have you considered induction cooktop? Same control as gas but way easier to clean.

Alan A 05-24-2021 06:25 PM

100 gallon propane doesn’t have to be 10’ from everything in NY. It’s right next to the house, so you might want to check. I was under the impression it was a national code not local. We use it for the cooktop - 6 burner. It takes one fill a year.

masraum 05-25-2021 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 908/930 (Post 11342173)
I do not want to upset anybody here but have you considered induction cooktop? Same control as gas but way easier to clean.

I've also wondered about induction.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan A (Post 11342246)
100 gallon propane doesn’t have to be 10’ from everything in NY. It’s right next to the house, so you might want to check. I was under the impression it was a national code not local. We use it for the cooktop - 6 burner. It takes one fill a year.

I'll check on that. Thanks

GH85Carrera 05-25-2021 07:37 AM

We have natural gas at our house. Gas furnace, and water heater and cooktop with 5 burners. The oven is electric, and that allows for a self cleaning oven.

The oven is on a different wall, below the microwave, and away form the cooktop so it is easy to have both going at once and not interfere with one another.

flipper35 05-25-2021 07:41 AM

In CA our small tank was right next to the house. I think it was larger than the 100# and held 75gal I believe. It required a hand truck to move it around when full. It would last a few years with just the oven/stove connected to it.

Our home in WI has a 250g tank up against the house.

masraum 05-25-2021 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by flipper35 (Post 11342684)
In CA our small tank was right next to the house. I think it was larger than the 100# and held 75gal I believe. It required a hand truck to move it around when full. It would last a few years with just the oven/stove connected to it.

Our home in WI has a 250g tank up against the house.

I've been trying to figure out what the rules are. It looks like (around here at least) that 125Gal and smaller can be right up against the house, but have to be 10' from an intake to a direct vent appliance or source of ignition and 5' from an access hole to the crawlspace under the house.

flipper35 05-25-2021 08:26 AM

If all you are using it for is the oven/range, that size will last a long time. The biggest issue is forgetting the last time it was filled.


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