mRNA vaccine inventor speaks out, YouTube deletes video discussing risks

[Chocaholic]

Are you suggesting that several morons are more credible than an individual one? The mRNA is located inside the butter bubble that is delivered via a syringe. So, either the butter bubble or the syringe is the delivery system...the mRNA is not.

Just as the gas pump delivers the gas. To borrow our experts own analogy...that he didn’t understand.

[Sooner or later]

I could see where my statement could be misunderstood. Just as "gasoline delivery system " does not suggest that gasoline is doing the delivery, "mRNA delivery system" does not suggest that the mRNA is doing the delivery.

My earlier clarification after I realized the confusion.
"The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are still considered experimental because they are still under EUA. Not because they are using mRNA or the mRNA delivery system."

[Sooner or later]

The key point that we have drifted from is that any new covid vaccine that is given EUA status will be considered as experimental. The most common inactivated vaccine (flu) to more recent mRNA vaccines will all be considered experimental if under EUA status. The current mRNA vaccines are not considered experimental because they are new, only because they are under EUA. Once they receive their Biologics License they will no longer be considered as experimental. The Novavax vaccine, if given EUA status, will also be considered experimental even though it's vaccine type is common and used in current Hepatitis B vaccines.

[pmax]

Originally Posted by Sooner or later

I could see where my statement could be misunderstood. Just as "gasoline delivery system " does not suggest that gasoline is doing the delivery, "mRNA delivery system" does not suggest that the mRNA is doing the delivery.

My earlier clarification after I realized the confusion.
"The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are still considered experimental because they are still under EUA. Not because they are using mRNA or the mRNA delivery system."

You meant this...

the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are still under EUA because they are considered experimental.

[cabmandone]

Ultimately whether experimental or not, the numbers are coming down so they're having some effect. I saw an article stating in MA they had 4,000 breakthrough cases among 3.7 million fully vaccinated people. Some saw that as proof the vaccine doesn't work. I saw it as proof that they work better than the trial suggested. It's all in how you look at things. I'm a glass half full kind of person. But that's because I own a kegorator.

[Aurel]

Originally Posted by cabmando

Ultimately whether experimental or not, the numbers are coming down so they're having some effect. I saw an article stating in MA they had 4,000 breakthrough cases among 3.7 million fully vaccinated people. Some saw that as proof the vaccine doesn't work. I saw it as proof that they work better than the trial suggested. It's all in how you look at things. I'm a glass half full kind of person. But that's because I own a kegorator.

4000/3.7M= 0.108%, which puts the efficiency of the vaccines at 99.982%
Pretty impressive for sure. Let’s hope it stays that way.

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by Aurel

4000/3.7M= 0.108%, which puts the efficiency of the vaccines at 99.982%
Pretty impressive for sure. Let’s hope it stays that way.

It's impressive but using those numbers really isn't fair. Not all of the 3.7 million were tested to know exactly how many breakthrough cases there really were. And from what I read, many of the 4000 breakthrough cases were asymptomatic so if a large group within that 3.7 million were asymptomatic they likely wouldn't be tested.

[Sooner or later]

Originally Posted by cabmando

It's impressive but using those numbers really isn't fair. Not all of the 3.7 million were tested to know exactly how many breakthrough cases there really were. And from what I read, many of the 4000 breakthrough cases were asymptomatic so if a large group within that 3.7 million were asymptomatic they likely wouldn't be tested.

Agreed

[sugarwood]

Originally Posted by jyl

I swear, some of you are so gullible, I’d think you were 8 years old.

These are the same gullible cult victims (1 in 6 Americans) who think communism to them China take over vaccine mind control shape-shifting, blood-drinking Baby raping lizard people. Cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophiles are trying to control the country’s government, mass media and financial systems. Since they don’t have any public health knowledge, since they don’t have any civics knowledge, the only place they have to turn is their Facebook feeds which amplify voices of other mentally ill cult victims.

[john70t]

Originally Posted by Aurel

4000/3.7M= 0.108%, which puts the efficiency of the vaccines at 99.982%
Pretty impressive for sure. Let’s hope it stays that way.

Coincidentally, that was about the original survival rate.

[pmax]

FDA added warning labels to the mRNA vaccines.

Did the vaccine companies investigate the risk before applying for full approval ?

[group911@aol.co]

Probably not think this is their first rodeo.

Originally Posted by pmax

FDA added warning labels to the mRNA vaccines.

Did the vaccine companies investigate the risk before applying for full approval ?

[pmax]

Originally Posted by group911@aol.co

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/hydroxychloroquine-does-not-benefit-adults-hospitalized-covid-19#:~:text=A%20National%20Institutes%20of%20Health ,benefit%20to%20hospitalized%20patients. Found to be equally effective.
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Originally Posted by Aurel View Post
It is part of the solution for early treatment of COVID, along with ivermectin, steroids, zinc….and should not have been suppressed by big Pharma to get emergency use of the vaccine. Many more lives could have been saved before vaccines became widely available. But there was an obvious agenda at play for pushing the vaccines and suppressing all the prophylactic treatments.

That NIH link says
"Hydroxychloroquine does not benefit adults hospitalized with COVID-19"

Don't know why they even bothered doing the study since it was already known even before then, namely that the efficacy claim applies to prophylactic treatements.

[Skillet83]

People are definitely divided over vax or no vax. But one thing is for sure, death rate from Covid is very low for those under 60 and it is a fact that these jabs are killing & F'ing up a lot of people, old and young, who knows what the future holds for those vaxxed. You can find anything online to lean your way.
I am scared to to take the jab. Covid ran through my house last summer, was not a big deal at all. I am mid 50's, in good health. I loaded up on my protocol at first signs. Was flat axxed tired for 3 days, that is it. 3 of us hit, up and about day 4. My thought, is why take a chance at this stage.



https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/ivermectin-can-drug-be-right-wing

You can buy Ivermectin online. I use the topical liquid, not the paste. Chit works.

[thor66]

Originally Posted by Aurel

He has been treating more COVID patients than Fauci ever will, so yes, he is an expert, a real one who practices what he talks about.

your thinking is scrambled

[thor66]

Originally Posted by sugarwood

These are the same gullible cult victims (1 in 6 Americans) who think communism to them China take over vaccine mind control shape-shifting, blood-drinking Baby raping lizard people. Cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophiles are trying to control the country’s government, mass media and financial systems. Since they don’t have any public health knowledge, since they don’t have any civics knowledge, the only place they have to turn is their Facebook feeds which amplify voices of other mentally ill cult victims.

many of them will get Darwin Awards

[brainz01]

Originally Posted by jyl

I have been reading about the history of developing mRNA vaccines. There is a Hungarian woman who could potentially get a Nobel for it. https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/10/the-story-of-mrna-how-a-once-dismissed-idea-became-a-leading-technology-in-the-covid-vaccine-race/ I recommend reading that.

So imagine my surprise at seeing this post. Who is this “inventor of the mRNA vaccine” Malone guy who I’ve not read about?

Well, I have not found any mention of him except as the self-declared self-promoted “inventor” and in countless crackpot websites, and now I guess in Fox News.

Try it. Google “Dr Robert Malone mRNA” and come back and tell us what his role really was in developing today’s mRNA vaccines.

I swear, some of you are so gullible, I’d think you were 8 years old.

What if Google and other websites were demoting or removing him? Surely that would never happen…



FWIW, I got the jab — I hope that wasn’t a mistake. Malone seems credible. What’s not credible is the censorship and revisionist history that’s going on right now.

We should all be asking more questions.


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[beepbeep]

Talking about Darwin Awards...

"Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. now are in people who weren’t vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the shots have been and an indication that deaths per day — now down to under 300 — could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the vaccine."

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187

[sugarwood]

Mercola is a known snake oil con artist who has been warned of selling scam health cures.
Of course, it's nothing more than a coverup by the evil mind control blood-drinking Baby raping lizard Cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophiles of the government !

https://quackwatch.org/11ind/mercola/

Originally Posted by Skillet83

[john70t]

Originally Posted by Skillet83

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/ivermectin-can-drug-be-right-wing

“In less than 48 hours, my mother was taken off the ventilator, transferred out of the Intensive Care Unit, sitting up on her own and communicating,” the patient’s daughter Michelle Kulbacki told a court.

After the reported change in Judith’s condition, the hospital backtracked and refused to administer more
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“She was out of that hospital in six days,” Lorigo says. After a month of rehab, his octogenarian client went back to her life, which involved working five days a week (she still cleans houses). Her story, complete with photo, was told in the Buffalo News, causing Lorigo’s phone to begin ringing off the hook. Doppleganger cases soon began dotting the map all over the country.

One of the first was in nearby Rochester, New York, where the family of Glenna Dickinson went through an almost exactly similar narrative to the Smentkiewiczes: they read about ivermectin, got a family doctor to prescribe it, saw improvement, only to later have the hospital refuse treatment. Again Lorigo intervened, again a judge ordered the hospital to treat, again the patient recovered and was discharged.

Hospitals fought hard, hiring expensive law firms, at times going to extraordinary lengths to refuse treatment even with dying patients who’d exhausted all other options."