Suckramento

[thor66]

their water tastes like dirt

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/22/us/sacramento-water-taste-drought/index.html

[Bob Kontak]

Post your own location, troll.

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Please go away.

[rusnak]

Speaking of Sacramento, I was astounded at how much water they were releasing down the Sacramento river several years ago. This was going out into the delta and then into the ocean. If they had done something intelligently, they'd have stored the water for years like this. Somewhere I have a picture of this. Had to be millions of acre feet a day.

[biosurfer1]

Originally Posted by rusnak

If they had done something intelligently, they'd have stored the water for years like this. Somewhere I have a picture of this. Had to be millions of acre feet a day.

LOL...it's just that easy! Why didn't they think of that?!?

[otto_kretschmer]

Originally Posted by biosurfer1

LOL...it's just that easy! Why didn't they think of that?!?

I've been listening to Victor Davis Hanson talk about California water for a while now.

Water policy in California is anything but intelligent. Its more of a feudal fight without the sieging of castles.

some people want to save the delta smelt, some people want unlimited water for their almond groves, everyone seems to want green lawns

Where does it end? I don't know or care. I got out two years ago.

[Tobra]

They are building barriers in the delta to prevent water intrusion. I remember they did that when I was a kid.

I think you have to concede the water is poorly managed in California. There was not been any storage created since the Nixon administration with a few more folks living here now.

They behave stupidly with respect to releases, consistently. Yes they need to be adequate to maintain the aquatic life, but if you watch how they handle it for a while, you become disappointed and stop watching. They had an equipment failure at the dam about 20 years ago that was very exciting

Have you planted any citrus trees yet? Smartest thing I did was plant citrus trees early on in my tenure at this abode. Washington navel, Meyer lemon and pink grapefruit, mature Clementine tree was already here. My grass is all dead and parched, trees look vibrant

[flatbutt]

If memory serves from my old essential oil days (and I would need to refresh my brain)... the terpene will react with acid such as citric or acetic. I don't recall the adduct off hand so now I need to go crack a book.

[Norm K]

Originally Posted by Tobra

I think you have to concede the water is poorly managed in California.

Fortunately, that's the only thing.

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[Rapewta]

The proposed Auburn Dam got shot down twenty years ago. A shame. It would have captured the
snow melt instead of it going down the American River and into the ocean.
I think the dam would have harmed a frog species. Not sure.

[techman1]

The thought comes to mind - "You can't fool mother nature" , maybe delay it. Hard to change what took thousands of years to create. It was a desert, to a desert it will try to return.

[RonDent]

Managing water in California is a balancing act. As mentioned, there are the farming in the valley that are holding deeded water right. California is the world's 5th largest producer of food. Cutting the farmers off wouldn't be a good idea. There all the cities in the valley that are taking water out of the rivers. Then you have to maintain a certain level of flow into the ocean to prevent saltwater incursion, destroying farms and city water supplies. Not to mention the endangered species living in the delta. Let's not forget too the huge amount of water that is pumped to the southern part of the state to keep the largest part of the state's population alive. Yes, there are dams all over the state to catch the rains and snow melt. But if you haven't noticed, there hasn't been any. The state is in yet another drought. I saw a sign the other day that read; "Going to California for vacation this year? Bring your own water." I've lived in California my entire life. The is nothing new.

[rusnak]

Originally Posted by RonDent

Managing water in California is a balancing act. As mentioned, there are the farming in the valley that are holding deeded water right. California is the world's 5th largest producer of food. Cutting the farmers off wouldn't be a good idea. There all the cities in the valley that are taking water out of the rivers. Then you have to maintain a certain level of flow into the ocean to prevent saltwater incursion, destroying farms and city water supplies. Not to mention the endangered species living in the delta. Let's not forget too the huge amount of water that is pumped to the southern part of the state to keep the largest part of the state's population alive. Yes, there are dams all over the state to catch the rains and snow melt. But if you haven't noticed, there hasn't been any. The state is in yet another drought. I saw a sign the other day that read; "Going to California for vacation this year? Bring your own water." I've lived in California my entire life. The is nothing new.

Pretty good summary, Mr. Dent.

I think it's inevitable that more dams will be built. The droughts, city population growth, and the need to feed the exploding human population will eventually require that environmental concerns will get swamped by reality.

[Tobra]

It sort of leaves out the mismanagement and the fact that no new storage has been built in 50 years, but it is a summary of some of the considerations here


Residential uses a tiny percentage of the total, yet that is where the conservation efforts are concentrated.

[Tidybuoy]

Screw building any more dams. What we need is a bullet train to nowhere and more sanctuary cities.

[thor66]

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

Post your own location, troll.

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Please go away.

Blob, I am in The Valley, aka Valhalla.

Now, try to keep a civil tongue in your head.

[jcwade]

Actually, the newest dam in Calif is holding back Diamond Valley Lake near Hemet and was completed in 2000. It holds 810,000 acre feet of water and is the largest and newest reservoir in SoCal.
The problem with the Central Valley farmers is not that they have historical water rights, it's what they grow.
Crops like almonds or pistachios use up to 1900 gallons of water to grow 1 pound.
Crops like strawberries or oranges only use about 12 gallons per pound.
The farmers need to grow more sustainable crops considering we live in a desert and are suffering near constant droughts.
For example, California grows 100% of the US almonds and 70% of the worldwide supply.

[Joe Bob]

Almonds suck up water 2-3 times more than citrus. Not something you want to grow in a severe drought.

While "thor66" just sucks donkey balls. But that's just my opinion. Banning his narrow ass would do this list a service. Him and Cockerdouche.

[tabs]

They should dam up Yosemite Valley.

[RonDent]

Originally Posted by tabs

They should dam up Yosemite Valley.

Missed it by that much.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hetch_Hetchy