Originally Posted by rockfan4 (Post 12302777)

I guess the two questions I have are -
How old is the deck?
How old is the water heater?

If it was me, and I'm going to live there a while, I'd wait until it's time to redo the deck, and schedule the work while the top boards are off the deck. Hopefully the water heater lasts until that time, as I'd hate to have to replace the water heater before replacing the deck. I guess if you did, make sure it's a model that can be converted from LP to Natural Gas.

I just talked to my brother-in-law, and he was lamenting replacing his deck. He put it on in the 70's when he built the house, and found out he's not as spry as he was 50 years ago.

Originally Posted by rockfan4 (Post 12302777)

I guess the two questions I have are -
How old is the deck?
How old is the water heater?

If it was me, and I'm going to live there a while, I'd wait until it's time to redo the deck, and schedule the work while the top boards are off the deck. Hopefully the water heater lasts until that time, as I'd hate to have to replace the water heater before replacing the deck. I guess if you did, make sure it's a model that can be converted from LP to Natural Gas.

I just talked to my brother-in-law, and he was lamenting replacing his deck. He put it on in the 70's when he built the house, and found out he's not as spry as he was 50 years ago.

Edit: I thought about it some more. How high off the ground is the deck? Can a guy get under it, let's say, to trench the gas line? If it is, you could cut an access hatch in the deck (look it up on youtube) and then they could get in and install the meter, and you wouldn't have to tear out the whole deck. They'll probably complain they can't run their trenching machine under the deck and refuse to dig it by hand, but I don't really see another option.

Originally Posted by Evans, Marv (Post 12303481)

Either witch out the lines yourself or get somebody who knows how to do it. Rods would be the best thing to use for that. Locate them and dig down to verify what kind of line it is.

Originally Posted by rockfan4 (Post 12161162)

Earlier, I was attempting to book a hotel room so that we can visit the granddaughter for her birthday. The hotel's website was acting up and I was unable to reserve a room, but at one point a price came up less than what I normally get. So last night, I tried again, their website was acting normally. I copied the url and opened it in a private window. In private windows, the browser can't read your existing cookies. The lesser rate came up again. "Holiday rate" it said, even though we aren't booking until mid January. I was able to book the room at the lesser rate. I tried again for a second stay, we're going to Chicago in February, but it didn't work. Maybe the hidden promotion only lasted until the end of January. But, in the future, I'm going to book in a private window just to see what happens.

Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 12245895)

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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 12302498)

NJ Nat Gas is coming through town laying supply lines everywhere. I thought it was a no brainer for me to hook up but my property is a PITA apparently.

The side of my house where my current service is won't work because of all the decking. They said 'd need to tear up the decking in order to run the line. F sat!

The other side is the driveway but it's a tight clearance to the property line and that's where my water line is so that's a bit problematic too.

IDT think I'm going to be able to do it.

So, now I'm wondering if the presence of nat gas is going to drive up LP prices because they're losing hundreds if not thousands of customers.

Then again maybe I'm over thinking it.

Follow up: Comparing NG to LP I could cut my yearly fuel cost by 40% or a little more going to NG. However, my conversion cost is estimated at approx. $7500. So that's roughly a 10- year payback. There are also other costs involved. I'd need to demolish a portion of a deck and have my driveway trenched as well.

hmmm So I'll be 82 by the time this upgrade pays off. I'm thinking I'll hang on to the 7+K.

What would youse guys do?

Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 12302976)

They said boring is an option but if they hit rock they need to trench. They are adamant about removing the deck...no discussion.

This seems like a YUGE PITA for a lot of money. But most of the town is signing on and I wonder what impact that'll have on the local LP supplier.

Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 12303151)

Oh you guys are going to luv this. I'm on a private well and the well head is in my driveway where the gas co. wants to put the trench.

I have never known the exact route of the water line to the house, so I call the town building dept to get the original plan. They can't help me and put onto the state authority for digging. I get a real human and he tells me ... yup...talk to your town.

Better yet if the line does get damaged it sounds like it's on me for the repair cost.

Retrofits suck.

Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 12303791)

It's a paved driveway so I'd need to hire out. This whole project is pushing me towards passing on it.

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 12303834)

It sounds like the next owners will need to get NG hooked up...