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Skillet83 08-25-2021 05:22 PM

You guys keep pissing in each others cereal bowl. Just get some Ivermectin, D3, Vit. C and some zinc. Search for zerohedge ivermectin off google. They are suppressing the info. India wiped out Covid and the Delta variant with Ivermectin. How many jabs you pro vaxers gonna take? They keep moving the goal posts on you. Now you have main stream media questioning boosters. Another conspiracy coming true?
I am all for choice, want the shot, knock yourself out. But, do not force this on people. Becomes very scary very quickly.


https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/even-mainstream-media-now-asking-big-questions-about-covid-vaccines

javadog 08-25-2021 05:26 PM

How ironic that you should pick the Atlantic to discredit what you think is a right wing nut. The Atlantic is about as far to the left as any publication in America.

Here’s what I’d recommend, though. Why don’t you track down that study and read it for yourself.

upsscott 08-25-2021 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Skillet83 (Post 11437153)
You guys keep pissing in each others cereal bowl. Just get some Ivermectin, D3, Vit. C and some zinc. Search for zerohedge ivermectin off google. They are suppressing the info. India wiped out Covid and the Delta variant with Ivermectin. How many jabs you pro vaxers gonna take? They keep moving the goal posts on you. Now you have main stream media questioning boosters. Another conspiracy coming true?
I am all for choice, want the shot, knock yourself out. But, do not force this on people. Becomes very scary very quickly.


https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/even-mainstream-media-now-asking-big-questions-about-covid-vaccines


This guy took ivermectin from the start, not sure I want to end up like him. Attachment 10578

upsscott 08-25-2021 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11437157)
How ironic that you should pick the Atlantic to discredit what you think is a right wing nut. The Atlantic is about as far to the left as any publication in America.

Here’s what I’d recommend, though. Why don’t you track down that study and read it for yourself.


Or you could post a link instead of a guy who is a terrible author vaguely talking about it.

mdj930 08-25-2021 05:31 PM

https://youtu.be/ltXpXOTZiJo
6:20 on the video he's a Dr. Not a politician.
He also said it was difficult to find the actual report. It's a good video for those of us that have natural immunity.
Mike

javadog 08-25-2021 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by upsscott (Post 11437162)
Or you could post a link instead of a guy who is a terrible author vaguely talking about it.

Lazy ****er…

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1.full.pdf

Took me less than five seconds to come up with it.

upsscott 08-25-2021 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11437167)
Lazy ****er…

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1.full.pdf

Took me less than five seconds to come up with it.


Actually you are the lazy ****er. Your whole argument on this thread has been lazy. Alex Berenson, for ****s sake.

javadog 08-25-2021 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by upsscott (Post 11437169)
Actually you are the lazy ****er. Your whole argument on this thread has been lazy. Alex Berenson, for ****s sake.

Read the paper, for ****’s sake.

Just read the first page, the rest won’t matter to you.

Why is it that liberals have to be spoonfed every ****ing thing?

upsscott 08-25-2021 05:45 PM

So I did not read the whole study. I read the first few pages which summarizes the study, Cliff Notes if you will. I can accept that natural immunity may be more effective but at what cost? Over 95% in our local hospital with Covid are unvaccinated. Yes I understand that the delta variant has shown to stand up to the vaccines more than previous variations of the virus. People aren’t getting as sick that are vaccinated. I’ll take my chances with the vaccine over immunity the hard way.

Sooner or later 08-25-2021 05:46 PM

I found it easily. Alex should provide a link instead of just a screenshot.

After a quick review I don't see anything wrong with the study. It is a preprint with no comments or peer review. It may be fine, keep the following in mind.

What is an unrefereed preprint?
Before formal publication in a scholarly journal, scientific and medical articles are traditionally certified by “peer review.” In this process, the journal’s editors take advice from various experts—called “referees”—who have assessed the paper and may identify weaknesses in its assumptions, methods, and conclusions. Typically a journal will only publish an article once the editors are satisfied that the authors have addressed referees’ concerns and that the data presented support the conclusions drawn in the paper.

Because this process can be lengthy, authors use the medRxiv service to make their manuscripts available as “preprints” before certification by peer review, allowing other scientists to see, discuss, and comment on the findings immediately. Readers should therefore be aware that articles on medRxiv have not been finalized by authors, might contain errors, and report information that has not yet been accepted or endorsed in any way by the scientific or medical community.

We also urge journalists and other individuals who report on medical research to the general public to consider this when discussing work that appears on medRxiv preprints and emphasize it has yet to be evaluated by the medical community and the information presented may be erroneous.

upsscott 08-25-2021 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11437175)
Read the paper, for ****’s sake.

Just read the first page, the rest won’t matter to you.

Why is it that liberals have to be spoonfed every ****ing thing?


Why do you have to spoon feed me your bull shyt? Because I don’t surf the same waves as you man. Get over yourself.

javadog 08-25-2021 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by upsscott (Post 11437185)
Why do you have to spoon feed me your bull shyt? Because I don’t surf the same waves as you man. Get over yourself.

I didn’t originally post that article for you, it was for everyone. You’re the one that made fun of the source, then you asked for a link.

Go back and read through the thread again, see if you can figure it out this time.

Better yet, go on another sabbatical. We all were glad to see the last of you and sad to see your return.

sugarwood 08-25-2021 05:52 PM

Ivermectin. They're crapping out the mucosal lining of their intestines
https://twitter.com/cuthpaste/status/1430308849274216448?s=21

timchar 08-25-2021 06:00 PM

My wife has a 30 yr old female friend that got the first Pfizer shot, 12 days on a ventilator. Still on oxygen 4 weeks later. No pre-existing problems. She got sick of people harassing her to get vaccinated. She won’t be getting the second shot. We know of 2 more first hand cases with similar serious side affects. Unfortunately you don’t hear the horror stories, social media takes them down.
Vaccine is doing a horrible job in the transfer of the virus. I’d say it’s doing a fair job at best about keeping you from serious illness. Just like the BS numbers 99 % of folks in hospital with COVID are unvaccinated. What a crock of shyte. Amazing the libs believe this malarkey. Gullible to say the least.
Tim

upsscott 08-25-2021 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11437191)
I didn’t originally post that article for you, it was for everyone. You’re the one that made fun of the source, then you asked for a link.

Go back and read through the thread again, see if you can figure it out this time.

Better yet, go on another sabbatical. We all were glad to see the last of you and sad to see your return.


https://media1.giphy.com/media/KDRv3QggAjyo/giphy.gif

upsscott 08-25-2021 06:15 PM

This thread has jumped the shark. Keep pumping the ivermectin fellas. You’ll be fine.

Chocaholic 08-26-2021 03:58 AM

One word conveniently ignored regarding Ivermectin.

DOSE.

Taking enough for a 1600 lb cow will be bad for you. It will cause the symptoms Sugar’s juvenile twitter link describes. Not a bright bunch from which to make medical decisions.

beepbeep 08-26-2021 04:35 AM

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/19/health/uk-coronavirus-month-since-freedom-day-intl-gbr-cmd/index.html

UK has vaccinated 90% of their 50+ population. Nowadays, death as outcome for those infected by C19 is 10% of what it was before the vaccinations. So vaccine is indeed efficient.

beepbeep 08-26-2021 04:37 AM

This is great visualisation.

(or it is all fake, made by Lizard people and Bill Gates in order to spread 5G chips).

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1629981399.png

Chocaholic 08-26-2021 04:46 AM

Mid June. A lot has changed since then. Variants.


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