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upsscott 08-28-2021 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11439866)
Here’s another article that will trigger the liberals but it’s worth a read for the rest of us:

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=243400


Is that an article or some other forum with a bunch of “experts” who posts crazy **** kind of like this one?

javadog 08-28-2021 10:37 AM

It should be pretty obvious, if you look at it. The author is named.

If you can’t figure out something that simple, reading the article won’t help you either.

I post these articles because our things within that are worth pondering. Do you think you’ve got the world all figured out, just disregard them and go rule your empire.

island911 08-28-2021 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 11440131)
Natural immunity might be great but it's not the way we are going to get to herd immunity in the U.S.

Or put another way, the death toll and amount of illness would be intolerable. A vaccine is the only way.

Oh, you mean when we have an effective vax. One that doesn't have "vaccinated" walking around needing a booster every 8 months.

Natural immunity is the strongest reaction to this virus. Natural immunity is also likely bolstering the vax numbers. We have had this virus circulating widely for over a year. It's likely that more than 50% of the population has seen this virus (the whole reason for masks, right? - you have it and not know it, right? )

javadog 08-28-2021 12:44 PM

Eight months? No, it’s six months. No, wait a minute, it’s five months. Or, maybe sooner than that…

Dr. Malone suggested that we I’ll be put on an IV drip. :D

upsscott 08-28-2021 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11440188)
It should be pretty obvious, if you look at it. The author is named.

If you can’t figure out something that simple, reading the article won’t help you either.

I post these articles because our things within that are worth pondering. Do you think you’ve got the world all figured out, just disregard them and go rule your empire.


You mean this author, the founder of the Tea party movement?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...8cc7af3696.jpg

javadog 08-28-2021 02:59 PM

Not interested in your opinion of the man, what would you like to discuss regarding what he had to say?

Or is that beyond are you at this point?

upsscott 08-28-2021 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11440405)
Not interested in your opinion of the man, what would you like to discuss regarding what he had to say?

Or is that beyond are you at this point?


Actually I don’t. That dude is a hack the same as liberal hacks on the other side.

javadog 08-28-2021 04:39 PM

Always the same bull**** from the liberals. They throw **** on the messenger, don’t read the message, and waste everybody’s ****ing time.

Steve Carlton 08-28-2021 05:01 PM

I didn’t realize that any quack you cite has credibility. What was I thinking!

javadog 08-28-2021 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 11440530)
I didn’t realize that any quack you cite has credibility. What was I thinking!

Here to debate any of the points he made or are you going to just side with the liberals and show how useless your contributions are?

Steve Carlton 08-28-2021 06:11 PM

I'm happy to debate or agree with information you present that comes from a credible source. You post crap and expect it to be worthy, you are wrong.

You don't even know my politics, yet you think if you call me a liberal that invalidates my point of view? You are pathetic.

Steve Carlton 08-28-2021 06:16 PM

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javadog 08-28-2021 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 11440583)
I'm happy to debate or agree with information you present that comes from a credible source. You post crap and expect it to be worthy, you are wrong.

You don't even know my politics, yet you think if you call me a liberal that invalidates my point of view? You are pathetic.

So, you only want to debate information that comes from sources you approve of? How do you know what he saying isn’t credible? You haven’t even considered it.

Go ahead, dissect what he says and tell me where he’s wrong. Don’t hide behind your bull**** argument that he is simply not credible, show me where he’s wrong.

I don’t know your politics but you sing from the liberal him book so, until proven otherwise, I’ll lump you in with those *******s.

You and your buddies that won’t even deign to read something from an opposing viewpoint, much less consider it, are the pathetic ones.

Steve Carlton 08-28-2021 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11440594)
So, you only want to debate information that comes from sources you approve of? How do you know what he saying isn’t credible? You haven’t even considered it.

Go ahead, dissect what he says and tell me where he’s wrong. Don’t hide behind your bull**** argument that he is simply not credible, show me where he’s wrong.

I don’t know your politics but you sing from the liberal him book so, until proven otherwise, I’ll lump you in with those *******s.

You and your buddies that won’t even deign to read something from an opposing viewpoint, much less consider it, are the pathetic ones.

Look at post #418. I said "I am willing to look at the cogent points you find in there. Please share those."

Your useless reply in post #420: "Click on the links yourself, ya lazy turd…"

Look at post #422. I said "Since you asked so nicely, I looked at the link. It looks to me like there's no there there. Is the crux of that that the vaccine under the EUA (Emergency Use Act) is different from the approved "Comirnaty" vaccine? I'm not seeing the difference, other than some conspiracy theory. Please enlighten me.

https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/qa-comirnaty-covid-19-vaccine-mrna#:~:text=The%20FDA%2Dapproved%20Pfizer%2DBioNT ech,any%20safety%20or%20effectiveness%20concerns.

https://www.fda.gov/media/144414/download "

Your useless reply in post #424: "The FBI agent, the guy you derided for no good reason whatsoever, spells it out in his article. Read it, I’m not going to retype it for you."

Part of your post #463: "It has been described as significantly less deadly than the original, that factor could explain the graph as much as anything else."

My response post #464: "Where?

I don't know if the monoclonal antibody treatment (like Trump got) is in wide use yet, but it's very effective if used early on or even prophylactically. It's being heavily promoted now.

"Some data suggest the Delta variant might cause more severe illness than previous strains in unvaccinated persons. In two different studies from Canada and Scotland, patients infected with the Delta variant were more likely to be hospitalized than patients infected with Alpha or the original virus strains."

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/delta-variant.html "

My post #481: "BTW, I do recognize the strong possibility that the Israeli study through MHS in its preprint stage may hold some valid information to be accepted. We shall see after its peer review. However, I don't think the breakthrough percentages are the key factor. The key factor is reduction in hospitalization and death.

By the way- no response to my question where you got this:
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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11437563)
It has been described as significantly less deadly than the original, that factor could explain the graph as much as anything else.

Then parts this gem of yours #482: "...Furthermore, I’m not endorsing everything I post here, I simply am posting things that I find worth reading, for whatever reason. I read probably 500 things a day on the Internet, if not more, and I realize that not everybody will see everything that’s out there. It’s virtually impossible. Read what I post, I don’t read what I post, I don’t care. I do from time to time offer my opinion on something and it’s generally pretty easy to tell what I think about some thing because I come right out and say it... As for your other question, when we first started learning about the Delta variant, we were told that it’s much more contagious but less likely to be serious. That was the chatter in the news, months and months ago. Fauci and the CDC and the other idiots may have changed their tune, I can tell you right now that I’m not gonna pay much attention to it because their primary purpose is fear mongering. They have no credibility with me, you can believe them at your peril.

This Covid pandemic is about far more than just the goddamn bug, it’s a political weapon being used against all of us, some of you guys need to wake the **** up."

Reply here: Wow.

The question came up about % of doctors that are vaccinated. I quoted 96%

Your post #504: "I’ve heard that same 96% number in three different polls.

That’s the first clue that it’s a bull**** number.

Reminds me of the 93% the number that got thrown around with respect to global warming.

Or the 17 intelligence community agencies that agreed…."

I said okay, it's 20%. Your missed the joke.

Your post #506: "I have no idea what the number is. 20% doesn’t sound right, either."



I read your garbage links and I'm done. If you want to quote stuff from conspiracytheories.com or tinfoilhat.org, go ahead. I'm not going to waste any more time arguing with someone equipped with the mind of a child.

KFC911 08-29-2021 02:53 AM

Ya know that dude standing on the corner with a cross shouting "REPENT" at every passing car?

He gets ignored and is irrelevent to most everyone passing.... his message isn't even noticed by the drivers fwiw.

If you want credibility .... earn it and quit ranting like a freaking nutcase... jmho.

Steve Carlton 08-29-2021 07:15 AM

New peer reviewed study on the virulence of Delta:

https://time.com/6093422/delta-hospitalization-risk/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=sfmc&utm_campaign=new sletter+brief+default+ac&utm_content=+++20210829++ +body&et_rid=21626230

sugarwood 02-15-2022 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by thor66 (Post 11421588)
Surely no one here is stoopid enough to believe zero hedge?
.

ZeroHedge website spreading Russian propaganda to gullible unsuspecting morons

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-coronavirus-pandemic-health-moscow-media-ff4a56b7b08bcdc6adaf02313a85edd9

Tobra 02-15-2022 04:23 PM

Interesting to read this thread after it has been demonstrated this leaky gene therapy jab does not work. More accurately, they kept changing the definition of "vaccine" and "effective" to hide the fact that it was never going to do what they claimed it would.


We are still passing this crap out on a fraudulently obtained EUA. Anyone besides Java want to guess why that is?

upsscott 02-15-2022 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 11608067)
Interesting to read this thread after it has been demonstrated this leaky gene therapy jab does not work. More accurately, they kept changing the definition of "vaccine" and "effective" to hide the fact that it was never going to do what they claimed it would.


We are still passing this crap out on a fraudulently obtained EUA. Anyone besides Java want to guess why that is?


Have you had the virus?

upsscott 02-15-2022 06:35 PM

My guess is that Tobra has me on ignore. I can agree that the vaccine is not a vaccine in the sense that it keeps you from getting the virus. Having said that I’m in the middle of Covid right now and it’s not just your typical flu. I have no doubts that if I hadn’t been vaccinated and boosted I’d be much more miserable than I am right now.


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