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Sooner or later 08-08-2021 04:17 AM

He damn sure hasn't made a point of correcting the statement. I guess it adds "cred"

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Dr. Cole: I appreciate the applause. You don't know what I've said yet, so hopefully there will still be some at the end. [laughter] Yeah, Dr. Ryan Cole. I run Cole Diagnostics. It's one of the largest independent laboratories in the State of Idaho, and started it 17 years ago. I'm a Mayo Clinic-trained, board-certified pathologist. Board-certified in Anatomic and Clinical Pathology. So, yes, I have expertise in immunology and virology. I also have subspecialty expertise in skin pathology, so I do a lot of skin cancer diagnostics as well. I've seen about 350,000 patients in my career. We've done about 100,000 COVID tests in the past year, so it is right up my alley

KFC911 08-08-2021 04:25 AM

I'm gonna venture that almost everyone on this thread (and board) is much smarter than the general population .... and that's not bragging. Many here are exceptional ... statistically speaking ... what ever that means.

No matter whether ya got the vax or not imo.

I've done a lot of stooopid schit in my life .... needles, four times :(

Two shingles, two covid ....

.... and I'm smarter than the vast majority who chose not!

Most who don't will be just fine .... well... as fine as those who do.

It's not an exact science....

We are in it together ... world wide really.

That's my take....

Sooner or later 08-08-2021 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11416953)
Is this case, that would probably be 350,000 pathology samples. Don’t be stupid.

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11416984)
Did he make that claim, or was that claim made by someone that was writing about him?

"So, yes, I have expertise in immunology and virology. I also have subspecialty expertise in skin pathology, so I do a lot of skin cancer diagnostics as well. I've seen about 350,000 patients in my career. We've done about 100,000 COVID tests in the past year, so it is right up my alley."

javadog 08-08-2021 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Sooner or later (Post 11417002)
Blah, blah, blah

I’ll ask you the same question. Did you watch the video? If so, what was in it that you disagreed with?

Here’s another question. Do you think you know more about the effects of disease and toxins on the human body than a practicing pathologist? If so, let us know why. I’m not a doctor, nor a medical researcher, are you?

Sooner or later 08-08-2021 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11417013)
I’ll ask you the same question. Did you watch the video? If so, what was in it that you disagreed with?

Here’s another question. Do you think you know more about the effects of disease and toxins on the human body and the practicing pathologist? If so, let us know why. I’m not a doctor, nor a medical researcher, are you?

How about your statement? You gonna stand behind it?

"Is this case, that would probably be 350,000 pathology samples. Don’t be stupid."

Sooner or later 08-08-2021 04:46 AM

Is this the one you are talking about? Or one of the other wild azz articles.

His statement that they "abandoned the control group " lacks context.

When the trials showed great success in reducing hospitalizations and deaths they went back and asked the placebo group if they wanted the vaccine.

A lot of those people were in the high risk category. Of course they would have wanted the vaccine. How ethical would it have been to deny them future use of the vaccine?

Yes, it can hurt long term followup within the group. Though, not all within the the entire placebo group received the vaccine. Only one group of many was mentioned. How many in other groups elected to move out of the placebo group?

They didn't do it to hide future problems. It wasn't some nefarious act.

pavulon 08-08-2021 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11416984)
Did he make that claim, or was that claim made by someone that was writing about him? Did you watch the video? What did he say in the video that you disagreed with?

I own zero MyPillows. How about you?

I watched the video of a guy with his pants tucked into his boots verbally vomiting all over anyone willing to watch. Are you and he blood relatives?

javadog 08-08-2021 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sooner or later (Post 11417015)
How about your statement? You gonna stand behind it?

"Is this case, that would probably be 350,000 pathology samples. Don’t be stupid."

You guys can be ****ing retarded at times. I don’t know what his practice consists of. Does he do autopsies all day? Are those considered patients, to a pathologist? Does he look at the normal tissue samples a pathologist looks at? Did he work in a Mohs microsurgery center looking at slices of skin tumors from patients?

I have no ****ing idea and I don’t care. I attribute the 350,000 number to samples he’s looked at, or whatever.

I’m interested in what I can learn from his comments regarding Covid. You guys can have this “attack the messenger” crap and shove it up your butts.

javadog 08-08-2021 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 11417022)
I watched the video of a guy with his pants tucked into his boots verbally vomiting all over anyone willing to watch. Are you and he blood relatives?

No ****wit, we’re not related.

Since you can never discuss the subjects intelligently, why don’t you just put me on ignore? Your replies are like those from some punkass school kid.

Sooner or later 08-08-2021 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11417045)
You guys can be ****ing retarded at times. I don’t know what his practice consists of. Does he do autopsies all day? Are those considered patients, to a pathologist? Does he look at the normal tissue samples a pathologist looks at? Did he work in a Mohs microsurgery center looking at slices of skin tumors from patients?

I have no ****ing idea and I don’t care. I attribute the 350,000 number to samples he’s looked at, or whatever.

I’m interested in what I can learn from his comments regarding Covid. You guys can have this “attack the messenger” crap and shove it up your butts.

That is not what he said.
"I've seen about 350,000 patients in my career"

javadog 08-08-2021 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sooner or later (Post 11417047)
That is not what he said.
"I've seen about 350,000 patients in my career"

What part of “shove that up your ass” don’t you understand? I’ll give you the same advice as I gave that other idiot. Put me on ignore.

If you don’t want to discuss the topic and you think that shooting the messenger is the best you can do, then you can kiss my ass.

Sooner or later 08-08-2021 05:32 AM

"We have never tried an mRNA vaccine in humans before."

False. This is the first mRNA vaccine that has been approved. They have been tried and tested in earlier trials.

https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/moderna-announces-positive-interim-phase-1-clinical-data

CAMBRIDGE, Mass., April 27, 2017 — Moderna Therapeutics, a clinical stage biotechnology company that is pioneering messenger RNA (mRNA) Therapeutics™ to create a new generation of transformative medicines for patients, today announcedpositive interim data from an ongoing Phase 1 study of mRNA-1440, an mRNA infectious disease vaccine against avian H10N8 influenza, demonstrating mRNA-1440 induced high levels of immunogenicity, and was safe and well tolerated. The findings were published online today in the journal Molecular Therapy.

Moderna is conducting a Phase 1 randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, dose-escalating study to evaluate the safety and immunogenicity of mRNA-1440 against H10N8 influenza in healthy adult subjects. H10N8 is a subtype of the influenza A virus, for which there are no approved vaccines.

Sooner or later 08-08-2021 05:35 AM

May 10th, 2019
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31079849/
Results: H10N8 and H7N9 mRNA IM vaccines demonstrated favorable safety and reactogenicity profiles. No vaccine-related serious adverse event was reported. For H10N8 (N = 201), 100-µg IM dose induced HAI titers ≥ 1:40 in 100% and MN titers ≥ 1:20 in 87.0% of participants. The 25-µg intradermal dose induced HAI titers > 1:40 in 64.7% of participants compared to 34.5% of participants receiving the IM dose. For H7N9 (N = 156), IM doses of 10, 25, and 50 µg achieved HAI titers ≥ 1:40 in 36.0%, 96.3%, and 89.7% of participants, respectively. MN titers ≥ 1:20 were achieved by 100% in the 10- and 25-µg groups and 96.6% in the 50-µg group. Seroconversion rates were 78.3% (HAI) and 87.0% (MN) for H10N8 (100 µg IM) and 96.3% (HAI) and 100% (MN) in H7N9 (50 µg). Significant cell-mediated responses were not detected in either study.

pavulon 08-08-2021 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11417046)
No ****wit, we’re not related.

Since you can never discuss the subjects intelligently, why don’t you just put me on ignore? Your replies are like those from some punkass school kid.

You don't want a discussion. You want your cohort to confirm your nutty political agenda or to throw a tantrum when the absurdity is exposed.

island911 08-08-2021 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 11417066)
You don't want a discussion. You want your cohort to confirm your nutty political agenda or to throw a tantrum when the absurdity is exposed.

:rolleyes:

Seriously? " that would probably be 350,000 pathology samples. Don't be stupid"

"probably" followed by "Don't be stupid."

All this "probably" to discredit a doctor. ...and by extension discredit the poster (Java).

Absurdity indeed.

S/L would have us believe that the doc has done nothing but work as a specialist identifying slides.

island911 08-08-2021 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sooner or later (Post 11417052)
"We have never tried an mRNA vaccine in humans before."

False. This is the first mRNA vaccine that has been approved. They have been tried and tested in earlier trials.

https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases/news-release-details/moderna-announces-positive-interim-phase-1-clinical-data

CAMBRIDGE, Mass., April 27, 2017 — Moderna Therapeutics, a clinical stage biotechnology company that is pioneering messenger RNA (mRNA) Therapeutics™ to create a new generation of transformative medicines for patients, today announcedpositive interim data from an ongoing Phase 1 study of mRNA-1440, an mRNA infectious disease vaccine against avian H10N8 influenza, demonstrating mRNA-1440 induced high levels of immunogenicity, and was safe and well tolerated. The findings were published online today in the journal Molecular Therapy.

Moderna is conducting a Phase 1 randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, dose-escalating study to evaluate the safety and immunogenicity of mRNA-1440 against H10N8 influenza in healthy adult subjects. H10N8 is a subtype of the influenza A virus, for which there are no approved vaccines.

This is interesting. ^

Quote:

31 subjects (23 of whom received mRNA-1440 and eight of whom received placebo)
Of course trial subjects are most always cherry picked.

pavulon 08-08-2021 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by island911 (Post 11417080)
:rolleyes:

Seriously? " that would probably be 350,000 pathology samples. Don't be stupid"

"probably" followed by "Don't be stupid."

All this "probably" to discredit a doctor. ...and by extension discredit the poster (Java).

Absurdity indeed.

S/L would have us believe that the doc has done nothing but work as a specialist identifying slides.

cohort #1

speeder 08-08-2021 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by island911 (Post 11417080)
:rolleyes:

Seriously? " that would probably be 350,000 pathology samples. Don't be stupid"

"probably" followed by "Don't be stupid."

All this "probably" to discredit a doctor. ...and by extension discredit the poster (Java).

Absurdity indeed.

S/L would have us believe that the doc has done nothing but work as a specialist identifying slides.

I'm not going to waste time reading all of the posts in this thread but this one jumped out at me; if the MD you are referring to is a pathologist, then no, he does not see live human patients, ever. Pathology is a very specialized and demanding discipline in medicine and they do not treat patients.

Anyone with actual medical knowledge would know this. In my case, it's because my sister was a dermatological pathologist, (a sub-specialty within a specialty), the advantages of being a pathologist beyond the high pay are that they work regular hours and are never on call. She was pregnant with her third child when she did her residency at Mayo Clinic, she designed a life for herself where she could be a mother as well as a professional. She has never had a DEA# to prescribe medication and has never examined a live patient.

An ignorant person reading your posts here, (as well as those from a few others), could actually wind up dumber than when they started. Good job, Island. :rolleyes:

island911 08-08-2021 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 11417088)
cohort #1

Wow. such a retort.

And you wonder why Java sez " You guys can have this “attack the messenger” crap and shove it up your butts.

Seriously, it is tiresome. Like talking to a bratty 9 y/o. -can't form a cogent retort so out comes the play-ground smack.

island911 08-08-2021 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 11417146)
I'm not going to waste time reading all of the posts in this thread but this one jumped out at me; if the MD you are referring to is a pathologist, then no, he does not see live human patients, ever. Pathology is a very specialized and demanding discipline in medicine and they do not treat patients.

Anyone with actual medical knowledge would know this. In my case, it's because my sister was a dermatological pathologist, (a sub-specialty within a specialty), the advantages of being a pathologist beyond the high pay are that they work regular hours and are never on call. She was pregnant with her third child when she did her residency at Mayo Clinic, she designed a life for herself where she could be a mother as well as a professional. She has never had a DEA# to prescribe medication and has never examined a live patient.

An ignorant person reading your posts here, (as well as those from a few others), could actually wind up dumber than when they started. Good job, Island. :rolleyes:

So you are saying that your sister is stupid and cannot have a POV because she is a sub-specialist within a specialty? Because that's what started this. S/L insisting that the "350k patient doc" should not be listened to because he has not seen that many patients in person. - a ridiculous ad hominem.


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