They fund and farm it out.

https://www.cdc.gov/prc/index.htm

PRC Network 2019-2024
Prevention Research Centers
CDC is pleased to introduce the new Prevention Research Centers (PRC) network for the 2019-2024 funding cycle. The PRC program funds 26 academic institutions to conduct applied public health prevention research. Funded PRCs will develop, test, and/or evaluate public health interventions for wide application, particularly in underserved communities, based on the latest science.

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I let that slide when you first wrote it. This second time, let's examine that claim...

If what you say is true, then a hypothesis cannot exist without that first step, correlation.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and hypothesize that a hypothesis can exist without correlation. Yet I offer no correlation. :cool:

Yep. Can exist. More of a guess in that case.

July 30, 2021 SAN FRANCISCO (CBS SF) — San Francisco could be the next Bay Area city to issue an indoor mask mandate amid a COVID case surge that has included over 200 vaccinated health care professionals at hospitals.

At San Francisco General Hospital, 35 staff members were out sick after testing positive for the coronavirus. According to the hospital’s chief medical officer and the San Francisco Chronicle, three-quarters of them were fully vaccinated.


UCSF released a statement regarding COVID infections among staff members across both the health system and the university campus early Friday evening. The statement said 92% of the hospital’s frontline health workers have been vaccinated and more than 90% across the UCSF health, campus employee and trainee population have been vaccinated overall.

In the past month, UCSF has had 183 employees or learners test positive for COVID-19 out of a total UCSF population of approximately 35,000. ...
Of those, 153 had been vaccinated and 30 had not. Officials said only two of the vaccinated cases required hospitalization.

SAN FRANCISCO (KGO) -- Two major San Francisco hospitals - Zuckerberg San Francisco General and UCSF - are reporting more than 230 staff members infected with COVID - most of them breakthrough cases.

"More staff are getting COVID than we saw before, and it's mostly vaccinated staff. And that's just because of the easing of restrictions," said Dr. Lukejohn Day, the Chief Medical Officer of San Francisco General Hospital. "We are seeing it among physicians, nurses, ancillary staff, we sort of are seeing that across the board."

According to Dr. Day, at SFGH:

In July, more than 50 staff members tested positive for COVID
75-80% of them were fully vaccinated
None of them have been hospitalized

The 50 cases are out of 7,500 total hospital staff. It's a small portion, but how they got COVID is important.

"I think close to over 99% of those cases, almost 100%, we have been able to trace back to community spread," explained Dr. Day. "We have so far not detected any patient to staff or staff to patient transmission right now. But we still have some active investigations that are going on."

A source tells ABC7 news reporter, Kate Larsen, that three of the cases at San Francisco General were emergency department staff, who tested positive after they all gathered together at an event outside of work.

"In some ways it's a little bit surprising and disappointing that we're here talking seriously about COVID after all this time," said Dr. Josh Adler, UCSF's chief clinical officer.

According to UCSF:

In July, 183 UCSF employees or learners tested positive for COVID out of 35,000 people.
84% were fully vaccinated.
2 vaccinated people were hospitalized


"We were expecting and planning for breakthroughs, that said the rate of breakthroughs is a little bit higher than we had originally predicted," said Dr. Adler. But that's because those predictions were based on data from the original variant, not the Delta - which is twice as infectious.

I will just leave this here:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/08/06/cdc-director-makes-case-vaccination-passports-are-futile-vaccines-do-not-prevent-covid-infection-or-delta-variant-transmission/

Ok, so now that it’s clear that vaccines don’t work…how are we expected to believe they’ll make us less sick if we catch the virus? There’s no way to know how sick one would get with or without. So, we should all roll up our sleeves…on faith alone?

Shush, you’re not supposed to say the quiet part out loud.

So, the original Covid was a lot more prevalent than we thought, because so many people got it and didn’t even notice. Now comes the dreaded Delta variant, followed by the Delta plus variant, which will probably be followed by the Delta plus OMG variant, which has been said to be milder.

How do we really know that the vaccines make infections less problematic? What can be less problematic than not even knowing you had it to begin with?

What if it turns out the vaccines don’t do anything, except perhaps cause you to suffer through some side effects? Some short-lived, some long lived, some who knows?

Don’t forget lambda and gamma variants too. There are plenty of fraternity names to keep the hysteria going.

Oh, they go far beyond the Greek alphabet. There are so many now that they have to name them with capital letters, numbers and dots, in various combinations. The permutations are nearly endless. But, don’t be so easily fooled. Some of them have two names, which makes it seem like things are worse than they really are. The dreaded Delta is also known as (B.1.617.2) Which sounds much more serious. I’m sure they will use the Delta name, in the movie.

Me? I am waiting for the Andromeda variant. When that bad boy hits town, I’m going to dig the biggest hole in my backyard you’ve ever seen. It will be so deep that radio waves cannot penetrate and my posts here will cease. When I quit posting, you know that you have just minutes left.

Thank God none of them are “variants of high consequence,” as the CDC refers to them, otherwise we would’ve all been dead long ago and the animals would’ve taken over.

Good Question.

I think that we look at the infection rate vs death rate to track the efficacy of the vaccine.

As far as I know, that gap is widening (statistically significant fewer deaths, as a percentage of infections).

BUT... that could be that the dry acreage has already been burned up. (so to speak) IOW, when so many of the 80+ crowd has been pushed over the edge there is only the younger (more resilient) population getting infected.

Found religion a bit too late.

https://www.wptv.com/lifestyle/taste-and-see/vocal-anti-vaccine-broadcaster-dies-from-covid-19-complications

In the coming years, expect many fewer deaths in the upper age categories from things like heart attack, cancer and all the rest.

Covid has picked the low hanging fruit off of the geriatric tree and that will be obvious in a few years.

How do ya figure the vaccines don't work? Are we seeing thousands of deaths per day like we were?

I heard something the other day about something like 98% of covid hospitalizations in Ohio are unvaccinated people. If that's even close to accurate, I'd say the vaccines are doing their job.

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Would we being seeing thousands of deaths every day without the vaccines? Study any pandemic and you’ll find it tends to wane overtime, as herd immunity develops and mutations make the virus less deadly.

Look up the shape of an endemic curve and see what you can figure out about it.

Seasonality

Bingo, we have a winner.

Don’t forget the natural shape of an endemic curve, either.

These things eventually die out, on their own. That’s why we’re no longer dealing with the 1918 flu, there was never a vaccine or any real treatment for that one.

I would imagine the people of 1918 would love to have had a vaccine or our current medical knowledge.

No absolute proof, though many believe there is enough evidence that after the first wave the virus mutated and became very good at infecting people and also more virulent.

Covid 19 in 1918 would have been disastrous. The 1918 flu in 2020 would have been far less deadly.

I thought I'd check in to see how this thread is progressing.

Nope nope nope nope nopers nope.