Soylent Green will be the food of choice when Big Brother has full control.

choke on your tofu, mofos!

This^^^^
If you’re cool with factory farming there’s something wrong with you. I’ve been cutting back on my meat intake and taking advantage of meat alternatives. I’ve never felt better, mentally and physically. Boca bacon sucks bad though, I will admit that.

my second favorite sandwich is a Cubano. which unfortunately is stuffed with pork.

i am not some chest thumping animal lover, VEGAN. but i am however, very okay with treating the animals that we do kill and eat in the best possible way. I've shot a raised pig, and those things are smart. i think the first one didnt see it coming, but the rest knew immediately. the butcher we hired was very sympathetic to the animals sacrifice. i hunt some of my annual meats.

the rest, i buy from small producers. more expensive, but that has the added benefit of limiting the amount of meat i eat now. even my wife participated with the pig harvest day. she was quiet for the rest of the day. she was so glad she participated so she could see what is up. it sucks that most Americans are so insulated from the meat process, that they think CA did a bad thing.

and Tofu is effen good.

and cheap ass supermarket bacon sucks.

If most people could visit a factory pork farm, they would become vegans the next day.

Of all the messed up things that CA. has done or allowed, this is a shining moment for the state.

any of the big factory meat producers.!!

some compassion goes a long ways. and cheap ass supermarket bacon sucks. really sucks. fake smoke, salty as hell, etc.

Lucky we get to keep out "Canadian" bacon to ourselves.

which we call HAM.

hey, in Canada, they do have the belly bacon us Americans know and love right? you all just call that bacon?

We eat the other side. Back bacon. lol

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Overall, the price of supermarket food seems remarkably cheap when everything it takes to get it all onto a shelf is taken into account.

I remember being in Ireland for the first time and my host asked if I wanted breakfast. Bacon and eggs. Sure, why not?

I learned two things at that time. One was that what they call bacon is a greasy piece of ham, (Canadian bacon), and that the Irish would not know decent food if it pimp-slapped them in the face. And I'm Irish, so hold back with the pitch forks. :)

I also went to a a Fish and Chips place where I learned that "chips" refers to incredibly gross, greasy and undercooked French fries, basically. I could not believe that people were eating them and not complaining, the paper bag they put them in was leaking oil like an old British motorcycle. I'd starve to death and look like Ric Ocasik in the meantime in that country.

But you don't understand...it has to be incredibly, artificially cheap in order for food processing execs to afford the newest 120' yacht and Americans with a grade school education to afford $80k PU trucks, a speedboat and 8 snowmobiles. If that involves torturing animals from the moment they are born until the moment they are slaughtered, screaming in terror, than so be it.

I'll tell you both what I told my daughter when we discussed CAFO's. It's the reality we face in this world when you look at the total population. Does that make it right? No. But it's a necessary evil if we don't want people starving. Now me, I get most of my beef from a local guy that raises just a few each year. But if everyone did that, some would go without or have to raise their own for slaughter. The reality is, not many people could or would raise a steer or hog to slaughter it for food... so... "factory farms" exist to put meat in the coolers at the local grocery.

^^^ Agree
We spend maybe 3 x as much for local sustainable meat and veggies because we can.

And we're blessed to be in a position where we can afford to do that. It's easy to say "I'd gladly pay more" but the reality is, where much of the pork gets exported to, they can't pay more. There's a reason they say "farmers feed the world".

My daughter is a vegetarian because of her feelings about CAFO's and I respect that. I just wanted her to understand why they exist. It's not just "us" eating that pork that comes from those big buildings.

He is too close to Napa Sonoma valley to leave.

Hey more for the rest of us and at a cheaper price..

Last week i bought 6 pork shoulders at 99 cents a lb. And recently 15 beef tenderloins at 4.77.lb. a little before 8 tri tips 1.98 lb. Ummmm goood.

These factory farms are indeed disgusting, but they do feed the poor. And the average pig only lives six to ten months in one before slaughter anyway. The sad reality of it all is that without these places, many could not afford to eat any meat products. Wealthy Porsche owners certainly have the right to take their business elsewhere if these farming practices offend them, and can well afford to do so. Forcing their opinions on the underprivileged, through force of law, however, is completely out of line. The very pinnacle of wealthy snobbery. "Let them eat cake...". Indeed...

I see a big business opportunity in black market bacon driven in from Nevada.