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drcoastline 08-07-2021 04:35 PM

What lessons can Americans learn from Sweden's Democratic Socialism
 
So how accurate is this "Documentary" on Sweden's Democratic Socialism? If it is accurate does this mean Sanders and AOC don't know their arses from that hole in the front of their faces?

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RWebb 08-07-2021 04:42 PM

Are you really curious or just posting to try and help this right winger get more views???

if #1 try a wiki on Sweden or talk to some blonde snow bunnies

dw1 08-07-2021 04:49 PM

This is obviously a political topic, so PLEASE don't post this here. There is a separate forum for Politics and Religion.

MODERATOR - PLEASE move this.

pa911 08-07-2021 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dw1 (Post 11416707)
This is obviously a political topic, so PLEASE don't post this here. There is a separate forum for Politics and Religion.

MODERATOR - PLEASE move this.

Do we still have Mods? Whatever happened to DD? He did a good job keeping the crap in PARF

Racerbvd 08-07-2021 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drcoastline (Post 11416694)
So how accurate is this "Documentary on Sweden's Democratic Socialism? If it is accurate does this mean Sanders and AOC don't know their arses from that hole in the front of their faces?

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Has there ever been any doubt about them being idiots. Bernie is one of the biggest pieces of crap in DC, The fact that he has worked the system since he was a kid, never had a real job for any length in the private sector and is completely clueless about what it takes to make a business successful, and all the dumbasses that think he is so great, yet he became a millionaire off their backs. He is nothing but a POS conman who, like biden, only accomplishment is building his personal wealth while attacking those who actually have accomplished something, taken the risk, built business and actually committed to society, but he thinks they should be punished while he wants to reward other irresponsible lazy losers like himself.

Tervuren 08-07-2021 05:19 PM

That guy put together a nice short funny video.

Sweden has an amazing history, and a lot of experimentation in government systems.

wdfifteen 08-07-2021 06:18 PM

What lessons can Americans learn from PPOT rules?
Post your political subject matter in PARF. It’s not a difficult concept.

Esel Mann 08-07-2021 06:23 PM

LoL, clearly yeah there has been scope creepage of parfness into the OT. This isn't the first post of like.

It's hillarious because instead of simply scrolling by the thread the holy order of Karen's must wage jeehaud!!!

These are the same Karens who when spectating in the bedroom as their wife n her bull are tendin bidness, try to tell the bull how it is done. Priceless!

wdfifteen 08-07-2021 06:37 PM

^^
Been watching a lot of Swedish porn eh?

Not that there’s any thing wrong with that….

Por_sha911 08-07-2021 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dw1 (Post 11416707)
This is obviously a political topic, so PLEASE don't post this here. There is a separate forum for Politics and Religion.
MODERATOR - PLEASE move this.

Translation: Oh shoot! I don't have a good answer so lets try and make it just go away.

pwd72s 08-07-2021 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tervuren (Post 11416731)
That guy put together a nice short funny video.

Sweden has an amazing history, and a lot of experimentation in government systems.

Bingo..well worth the 17 minutes.

drcoastline 08-08-2021 12:22 AM

Sorry to everyone who is butt hurt and triggered by a video and cant just scroll past.

Mods my apologies I posted here accidentally, it was intended for PARF. Please move I didn't intend to pass gas in their safe space.

Thank you and again my apologies.

drcoastline 08-08-2021 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 11416700)
Are you really curious or just posting to try and help this right winger get more views???

if #1 try a wiki on Sweden or talk to some blonde snow bunnies

I am truly curious. I don't know about their (Sweden's) system. All I know about Sweden is Ikea and Volvo, I was under the impression like many Sweden had a Socialist system. The people interviewed state they tried socialism in the late 70'-80's and it failed miserably so they restructured back to a free market capitalist system.

So is what the people state in the video reasonably accurate? If so does that mean Sanders and AOC are clueless?

No I am not trying to "help this right winger get more views" I have no idea who the guy is. Don't ask me how YouTube algorithm works? I was watching vides on hydrophobic coatings and You Tube said hey let's throw this in there. Yep caught my eye, I watched and now I am curious.

oldE 08-08-2021 02:30 AM

I swear, trying to get some people to post in PARF is harder than toilet training a toddler. Some days you just end up with crap all over the place.

Best
Les

drcoastline 08-08-2021 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldE (Post 11416955)
I swear, trying to get some people to post in PARF is harder than toilet training a toddler. Some days you just end up with crap all over the place.

Best
Les

As you crap all over the place. :D

oldE 08-08-2021 02:48 AM

I try to avoid getting crap on me by avoiding PARF.
Most days it works. ;)

Best
Les

Chocaholic 08-08-2021 03:23 AM

It’s funny...the same Karen’s seem to watch for someone to slip up and post in the wrong forum. Then it’s a contest to see who can look down upon the poster with superior disdain first.

Now I understand why they just can’t skip past a thread of little/no interest. In fact, such threads are of their very highest interest.

oldE 08-08-2021 03:34 AM

Mike, the concept shouldn't be too hard to grasp.
Off Topic is like the living room of Pelican.
PARF is the bathroom..
Maybe you have different standards but I don't like finding crap in the living room.
Without moderators to scrub the place out, those of us who like to make the differentiation do indeed express our disappointment in some members lack of toilet training.

Best
Les

Chocaholic 08-08-2021 03:45 AM

And oldE makes my point ^^^.

The bathroom analogy is quite telling. Confirming that politics and religion topics are most certainly below the esteemed and superior sensibilities of some. Nice.

Anyone who truly wants to act as a magnanimous steward of forum integrity would simply and privately send the OP a PM and ask them to request that their thread be moved. I’m sure many do that. Others eagerly ride in on high horses for all to see.

Tervuren 08-08-2021 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drcoastline (Post 11416943)
I am truly curious. I don't know about their (Sweden's) system. All I know about Sweden is Ikea and Volvo, I was under the impression like many Sweden had a Socialist system. The people interviewed state they tried socialism in the late 70'-80's and it failed miserably so they restructured back to a free market capitalist system.

So is what the people state in the video reasonably accurate? If so does that mean Sanders and AOC are clueless?

No I am not trying to "help this right winger get more views" I have no idea who the guy is. Don't ask me how YouTube algorithm works? I was watching vides on hydrophobic coatings and You Tube said hey let's throw this in there. Yep caught my eye, I watched and now I am curious.

What I found most interesting is a structure that focuses taxes on wage earners and consumers.
As this is where the people without a growth oriented mindset will stay.
It leaves those with a growth oriented mindset options for less taxes and greater income.
It also means the next evil super-villian will possibly be Swedish.

Here in the US a very convoluted system tries to do the same thing for those politically connected to get their tax burden lifted.

livi 08-08-2021 04:06 AM

Don´t get me started.

stomachmonkey 08-08-2021 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocaholic (Post 11416980)
And oldE makes my point ^^^.

The bathroom analogy is quite telling. Confirming that politics and religion topics are most certainly below the esteemed and superior sensibilities of some. Nice.

Anyone who truly wants to act as a magnanimous steward of forum integrity would simply and privately send the OP a PM and ask them to request that their thread be moved. I’m sure many do that. Others eagerly ride in on high horses for all to see.

No, he did not make your point.

The problem with political and religious topics is not the subject matter.

It’s that the discussions mostly devolve into what is akin to a troop of drunk monkeys jerking off while throwing fistfuls of **** at each other.

It’s not the topics, it’s the participants.

pa911 08-08-2021 06:35 AM

PP is a business, You cannot view PARF unless you are member/logged in for a reason. Most likely they don't want people seeing that crap.

RANDY P 08-08-2021 06:39 AM

Everyone's panties are in a twist over this topic.

Standard OT is all about recipe swaps, kitten pics and soft-porn, and complaining how mean PARF is.

rjp

island911 08-08-2021 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RANDY P (Post 11417119)
Everyone's panties are in a twist over this topic.

Standard OT is all about recipe swaps, kitten pics and soft-porn, and complaining how mean PARF is.

rjp

LOL. OT especially likes complaining how mean PARF is. :D

island911 08-08-2021 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 11417067)
...
The problem with political and religious topics is not the subject matter.

It’s that the discussions mostly devolve into what is akin to a troop of drunk monkeys jerking off while throwing fistfuls of **** at each other.

It’s not the topics, it’s the participants.

LOL

clique lover.

But I get it... Why can't they be so well mannered? Like the monkey intolerant of others. Such a fine example of tolerance and understanding. :cool:

Skillet83 08-08-2021 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racerbvd (Post 11416724)
Has there ever been any doubt about them being idiots. Bernie is one of the biggest pieces of crap in DC, The fact that he has worked the system since he was a kid, never had a real job for any length in the private sector and is completely clueless about what it takes to make a business successful, and all the dumbasses that think he is so great, yet he became a millionaire off their backs. He is nothing but a POS conman who, like biden, only accomplishment is building his personal wealth while attacking those who actually have accomplished something, taken the risk, built business and actually committed to society, but he thinks they should be punished while he wants to reward other irresponsible lazy losers like himself.

Next time I get to FL, I am buying the beer sir!

Esel Mann 08-08-2021 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by livi (Post 11416989)
Don´t get me started.

please do! everyone else is dogpiling the dyke breach that separates parf from o.t.karens!

Gogar 08-08-2021 04:40 PM

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nota 08-08-2021 08:46 PM

no socialist country ever went full commie

every country that did go commie had a nasty rightwing dictator before it did

the way to totally prevent commie takeovers is do not allow rightwing dictators

it is simple it is eazy BUT I bet the rightwing who LOVE dictators just can't do it
so they have only themselves to blame

island911 08-08-2021 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nota (Post 11417861)
no socialist country ever went full commie

every country that did go commie had a nasty rightwing dictator before it did

the way to totally prevent commie takeovers is do not allow rightwing dictators

it is simple it is eazy BUT I bet the rightwing who LOVE dictators just can't do it
so they have only themselves to blame

Yeah, so religious rightwing, every time.

Oh WAIT . . .

U crazytalk nota..

Racerbvd 08-08-2021 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by island911 (Post 11417863)
Yeah, so religious rightwing, every time.

Oh WAIT . . .

U crazytalk nota..

How much Bongwater did he drink?

sc_rufctr 08-08-2021 11:16 PM

Interesting video well worth watching and I really don't know why it anyone could be offended by it.
- They tried their version of Socialism and when it didn't work they went back to what did.

That's still true in our modern woke world. If we had a better system of moving good a services we would go to it tomorrow.

sc_rufctr 08-08-2021 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nota (Post 11417861)
no socialist country ever went full commie

every country that did go commie had a nasty rightwing dictator before it did

the way to totally prevent commie takeovers is do not allow rightwing dictators

it is simple it is eazy BUT I bet the rightwing who LOVE dictators just can't do it
so they have only themselves to blame

So was Stalin a Right Wing Dictator? :confused:

I think you need to do some more reading.

nota 08-09-2021 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 11417906)
So was Stalin a Right Wing Dictator? :confused:

I think you need to do some more reading.

he was a SOB but did not take power until 5 years after the commie takeover

stalin was lennin's CLERK

so yes you are very CONfused

AND DO BELIEVE THE DOGMA

but that does not make it true

just makes you a dupe

nota 08-09-2021 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by island911 (Post 11417863)
Yeah, so religious rightwing, every time.

Oh WAIT . . .

U crazytalk nota..

please understand the facts are not what your dogma said

russia china cuba nic and others were ruled poorly by the rightwing
before they had a commie revolt

we know your side never fact checks
and does not like facts
or trys to twist them into pretzels of rightwing logic :eek:

svandamme 08-09-2021 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 11417906)
So was Stalin a Right Wing Dictator? :confused:

I think you need to do some more reading.

same kind of nonsense as those who think Hitler was left wing because the word "socialism" is found in National Socialism..

Somehow they get all fixated on that socialism word, but fail to understand that in language you can have combinations that change the meaning of the second word.

Like "anti skid" means to prevent skidding, not actually skidding
Same with national-socialism, the opposite. of socialism.. eg Far Right

Stalin was as left as they come.. that he was power corrupted like nobodies business doesn't change that

sc_rufctr 08-09-2021 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nota (Post 11418091)
he was a SOB but did not take power until 5 years after the commie takeover

stalin was lennin's CLERK

so yes you are very CONfused

AND DO BELIEVE THE DOGMA

but that does not make it true

just makes you a dupe

How about these guys?

Pol Pot
Ho Chi Minh
Fidel Castro
Che Guevara
Nikita Khrushchev
Josip Broz Tito

Fast Freddy 944 08-09-2021 07:14 AM

lol!

nota 08-09-2021 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 11418111)
How about these guys?

Pol Pot
Ho Chi Minh
Fidel Castro
Che Guevara
Nikita Khrushchev
Josip Broz Tito

how about what exactly

pp took power with the help of the VC after a failed CIA coop installed a rightwing military government

ho fought against a rightwing colonial government then a rightwing corrupt military gov in SV

fidel overthrew a CIA and mob supported rightwing dictator
che was a supporter killed in a later revolt that failed against an other rightwinger

no idea why nikita is on your list he was a commie but long after the revolt

tito took power after a nazi invasion you want to argue nazi's are not rightwing ?

do you have a point ?


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