Idiot Cyclists

[Purrybonker]

You won't believe these idiots! Why are they even allowed on the public roads?

[Purrybonker]

This is scary. How does the driver not see the bike?

[drcoastline]

Will you be deleting this thread also?

Post #1, a fair mix of idiot cyclists and drivers.

Post #2, As I said in the thread you deleted. Even if you are in the right or have the right of way that does not give you the right to intentionally cause an accident. The driver of the vehicle I believe was wrong in this instance, but, the cyclist had plenty of time to stop and/or take evasive action, he made no attempt to avoid the collision. The cyclist stopped peddling I would estimate 150 feet from the intersection? He was not even at the intersection (Keep clear line) when the vehicle begins his turn and the second cyclist warns the cyclist to look out. The vehicle driver may have been wrong but the cyclist caused the collision.

[svandamme]

Originally Posted by Purrybonker

This is scary. How does the driver not see the bike?

sun is low over the horizon
car comes out of shaded area
blinded
bike is difficult to see
bike has poor position on the road to be seen
bike could have avoided it if he used his brakes but opted to get his right of way instead

[oldE]

Also, the cyclists have the sun behind them. The car driver was looking into the sun.

Rider forgot the first rule: Ride like they're trying to kill you. (Also applies to motorcycles and small sports cars.)

Best
Les

[Tobra]

Looks to me someone needs to learn how to get along with others


Don't see him having the ability though. If you have a motorcycle, get rid of it while you can bonkers, you don't have the right temperament for it

[hcoles]

A number of the places in the video have no real room for cyclist. E.g. the traffic lane is 10 feet and there is almost no shoulder. In CA the vehicles are supposed to slow down and then pass when safe, but I don't see this happening. The vehicles try to split the difference - this is especially bad when a car is coming the other direction - all of the sudden all the space is taken. We have spots around where I ride, on blind curves, that have the potential for this, I've been caught a couple of times. I got lucky.

[creaturecat]

the cyclist had the right of way. it's that simple.

[1990C4S]

Cyclists are generally entitled to a lane under the Motor Vehicle Act. You're a dick if you ride that way and don't share the road.

Just like a motorcycle, you need to assume you're invisible, or you will be in the right, but dead.

It's also that simple.

[1990C4S]

Also, when you ride a bike on the sidewalk, especially on the wrong side of the road, you should not expect the driver at an intersection to be ready for you to pop into the crosswalk.

Again, you might be in the right, but you're just asking to get hit.

[john70t]

Originally Posted by Purrybonker

This is scary. How does the driver not see the bike?

That car was making that turn for a lifetime and the bike just drove into the side of it.
No situational awareness or any "danger danger dodge" reaction. Full speed through an intersection straight ahead.
It might have been a brick wall.

The street markings may have confused the driver as well.

I'm all for bike rights on the road and have dodged many an idiot driver myself, but the same mentality exists whether walking, biking, or driving.

[oldE]

Originally Posted by creaturecat

the cyclist had the right of way. it's that simple.

And if you are a cyclist (or pedestrian) and rely only upon that right, you are simple.

I bike too from time to time but you wouldn't catch me doing something that ill considered. Yes, I have lived a good life of over 67 years and that is one of the reasons.

Best
Les

[sammyg2]

But but but, having two wheels gives you the RIGHT to do stupid crap.

[GH85Carrera]

Going through St. Louis the first time my GPS told me to be in the proper lane, and to follow the interstate. An 18 wheeler suddenly realized he needed to be in that lane as well. I was 100% in the right, but I sure as hell did not want to be dead right. I had a choice of a really bad crash, or give way, and change lanes and I ended up going across the river into a antother sate I did not to go to. No major problem, just take the next exit and go back.

On I-40 in Arizona a simi decided to come into the left lane to pass some slow vehicle. He simply did not look in his mirrors for a little white 911 and he came right on over. I had to go to the shoulder, downshift and floor it to get to the highway before a bridge abutment over a local road and get back in the lane of the interstate. Once again I could have been dead right, but I took evasive action. I knew if I had hit the brakes I was going to be rear ended by the guy right behind me that the truck cut off.

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by sammyg2

But but but, having two wheels gives you the RIGHT to do stupid crap.

[T77911S]

Originally Posted by Purrybonker

You won't believe these idiots! Why are they even allowed on the public roads?

i could say the same about motorist.

why treat a cyclists with less respect just because he is on a bike,
you don't own the road.
you said it "PUBLIC ROAD"

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by T77911S

i could say the same about motorist.

why treat a cyclists with less respect just because he is on a bike,
you don't own the road.
you said it "PUBLIC ROAD"

100% agree. I suspect those idiot cyclists drive their car the same way. I was on a local road, 45 MPH speed limit. I saw a car pull out of a shopping center right into the lane I was in and it was NOT accelerating much at all. The idiot in front of me crashed right into him and never hit his brakes. I can only guess he was texting or something. I stopped and gave him my card in case he needed a witness. I was hoping a cop would call and I could tell them the idiot never hit the brakes. No one ever called. Not my farm, not my pig. Two idiots met on the road and deserved each other.

[flatbutt]

sheeee-it those are nuthin'! Try riding in this jersey for awhile.

[Deschodt]

The problem I believe is that the road sharing assumption is 100% flawed... To me it's like opening a portion of the airspace to Air force jets AND handgliders, and open some popcorn...

I mean roads were created for transport of goods and people and at some point bikes were a valid and safe option but now, it's really more of a sport/recreational activity, not a necessity for actual transport. And they aren't even paying for usage honestly. If you follow that reasoning, why not have the right to play tennis or volleyball in the middle of the road too and share with everyone (and expect to be killed)?

Doesn't help that cyclists are by and large acting like *********s (please don't pretend you've never seen it happen), and drivers..... just as much so, but at least they got armor! Plenty of blame to go around. A bike is a magical device that allows its dickish user to disrespected traffic signs and rules because you know, it's TIRING to stop (wait, wasn't it exercise?)... and also to magically to turn from a vehicle into a pedestrian, in a blink of an eye. Red light ? Zip, I'm now a pedestrian on the crosswalk... If I had a penny for each cycling idiot pulling bonehead moves in a city, or acts like a $%#$% blocking the road a 20 mph with his buddies, I'd.... nothing, because drivers are $%$#%$ too... And sometimes they cannot be expected to comprehend that the bike is magical and somehow allowed to disrespect all the rules cars should follow (but also don't)...

You need bike paths, this road sharing is nonsense... Hang glider vs jets.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by 1990C4S

Also, when you ride a bike on the sidewalk, especially on the wrong side of the road, you should not expect the driver at an intersection to be ready for you to pop into the crosswalk.

Again, you might be in the right, but you're just asking to get hit.

A bicyclist on the sidewalk going in any direction is against the law. I came that close to nailing one yesterday while looking left to make a right turn. Just when I thought it was safe, a bike with a trailer attached breezed right across my front bumper from the right out of nowhere from the sidewalk and across the pedestrian zone. Yes, I had looked right beforehand, but I can't look in both directions at once.

I can only assume there was a child in the trailer. That very easily could have been a bad day for them. I have a ****load of insurance for just that reason. If something had happened I wouldn't even feel bad about it.

It's life (or death) when people are that stupid.

Oh, and as it just so happens, the light for me was just turning green. So they were rushing the yellow facing them.