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Pazuzu 09-01-2021 08:34 PM

Let's look at..."The Perfect Album"
 
Does it really exist?
An album where every song is as strong as every other one, there's no weird throw-away song, or something shoved in for radio play, or an interlude that breaks up the flow of the album...the song that you ALWAYS try to skip.

For example...
I know many of you are already typing "Dark Side of the Moon dude!" But, the fact is, "Money" breaks that album. It's musically discordant with the rest, it's no where near the same quality as the other songs, and it breaks the flow of the album.


Some nearly great albums:
Kill em' All, Metallica. "Pulling Teeth" breaks that album. You're going 125mph with two hookers in the back seat when someone steps in front of the car playing a harpsichord for a few minutes. I love Cliff, but that should been removed, or at least put at the very end of the album as a coda.

Nothing Shocking, Jane's Addiction. "Thank you Boys" also should have been shoved to the end, it would have been a spectacular coda to that otherwise perfect album. Instead, it's like a piece of glass right in the middle of a rare steak.

Some actual albums that *I* think are perfect:
Violent Femmes, Violent Femmes. Every single song is as good as every other single song, and the whole album can be played front to back over and over again.

Strong Reaction, Pegboy. Perfect blend of post-punk rock. Even the instrumental song is strong enough to be equal to the others. Look them up if you like pure, hard, guitar drive rock and roll.

Doolittle, The Pixies. I didn't listen to them when this came out, because everyone was so into it that it annoyed me and I refused to join in. Decades later, I finally listen and I see why everyone was into it. Yes, there is NO rhyme or reason between songs in this case, but every song is as strong as every other one, and there is a good rhythm of weird/rock-y/pop-y/weird song.

So, OTHER THAN Dark Side, what are your perfect albums, or albums that are perfect EXCEPT for that one stinkin' song...

sc_rufctr 09-01-2021 08:53 PM

For me it's:

1. Hotel California, The Eagles.

I can't fault it in any way and I still have a good copy on vinyl. (I was 11 in 1976)
- My son pinched it about 6 weeks ago and wont give it back. :rolleyes:

2. And Justice for All, Metallica. :)

I know he has a tainted legacy but we should also mention Thriller, Michael Jackson.

herr_oberst 09-01-2021 09:03 PM

Neil Young Harvest

Stones Beggers Banquet

Dylan Blood on the Tracks

Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here

Stevie Ray Vaughan Couldn't Stand The Weather

Yes Close To The Edge

Supertramp Crime of the Century

Willie Nelson Stardust

She Keeps Bees Minisink Hotel

JackDidley 09-01-2021 09:10 PM

Hendrix, Rainbow Bridge.

craigster59 09-01-2021 09:12 PM

Neil Young After The Gold Rush

Marvin Gaye What's Goin' On

Who Who's Next

Steely Dan Aja

Rolling Stones Let It Bleed

David Bowie Ziggy Stardust

Eagles Desperado

Byrds Sweethearts Of The Rodeo

Dave Brubeck Take Five

Ramsey Lewis Trio The In Crowd

Trini Lopez Live At PJ's

And many more....

SCadaddle 09-01-2021 09:15 PM

Sgt. Peppers for the win. Any Dire Straits album as runner up.

I can't stand the Eagles. Even back to the James Gang albums, they all sound like they were recorded in a garbage can to my ears.

sc_rufctr 09-01-2021 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCadaddle (Post 11445300)
Sgt. Peppers for the win. Any Dire Straits album as runner up.

I can't stand the Eagles. Even back to the James Gang albums, they all sound like they were recorded in a garbage can to my ears.

Oh no... Sacrilege. :( (;))

Bill Douglas 09-01-2021 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pazuzu (Post 11445279)
An album where every song is as strong as every other one, there's no weird throw-away song, or something shoved in for radio play, or an interlude that breaks up the flow of the album...the song that you ALWAYS try to skip.

I think maybe we are getting old. When I was young and poor, and paid for an album, I savoured every moment, every song, every tone on that album. Plus I didn't over think it. I just whole hearted loved it.

Baz 09-01-2021 09:49 PM

Led Zeppelin I
The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
Santana - 1st Album
The Band - 1st Album
Steely Dan - Can't Buy a Thrill
The Allman Brothers Band - At Fillmore East
Joe Walsh - Barnstorm
Carol King - Tapestry
Jackson Brown - For Everyman
Elton John - Madman Across the Water
Crosby Stills and Nash - 1st Album
Crosby Stills Nash and Young - Deja Vu
David Bowie - Alladin Sane
Jeff Beck Group - Rough and Ready
The Doobie Brothers - Takin' It To The Street

L8Brakr 09-01-2021 09:49 PM

Asking for perfection sets a high bar-

Not perfect. but I'll add:

Elton John - Madman Across The Water
Paul Simon - Graceland
Carol king - Tapestry
Pearl Jam - Ten
Bruce Springsteen - Born To Run
Alan Parsons Project - Turn of a Friendly Card

edit - I see Baz was typing at the same time......

Pazuzu 09-01-2021 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 11445288)
I know he has a tainted legacy but we should also mention Thriller, Michael Jackson.

Ballsy move, but I might agree. I even own that album, bought it myself when I was a wee lad when it came out.

Baz 09-01-2021 09:52 PM

Forgot to put Pearl Jam - 10 on my list - but see Late Breaker has my back.

Also the first Emerson Lake and Palmer as well as Trilogy.

The Cars - first album.

Where do you stop?

I could list another 20 or so easily.......

L8Brakr 09-01-2021 09:54 PM

Speaking of tainted legacy.......George Michael's Faith was a hell of an album at the time.

sc_rufctr 09-01-2021 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pazuzu (Post 11445319)
Ballsy move, but I might agree. I even own that album, bought it myself when I was a wee lad when it came out.

It's still selling well today!

I grew up listening to his music. The whole Pedo thing ruined everything.

Pazuzu 09-01-2021 09:57 PM

Two votes for Tapestry...I'll have to revisit that one. My mom played it on 8-track regularly when I was young.

Pazuzu 09-01-2021 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 11445323)
It's still selling well today!

I grew up listening to his music. The whole Pedo thing ruined everything.

With artists, sometimes you need to separate the pure artist from the impure human meat bag.

Both M. Jackson and Prince had more pure musical ability in their little toe that almost anyone else listed here, but both were obviously viciously disturbed humans. Ignore the human, embrace the artist...

Bill Douglas 09-01-2021 10:39 PM

I've just had a bit more of a think about it. I think I enjoyed the times - maybe 1978, but I loved the album Gerry Rafferty - Baker Street. Loved the music, and we were all kinda "nice kids" back in those days. Thought we were naughty smoking a joint.

livi 09-01-2021 10:58 PM

Dire Straits - Dire Straits

That debut album redefined my view on guitar playing and rythm.

ckissick 09-01-2021 11:40 PM

Boston's first album

KFC911 09-02-2021 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas (Post 11445315)
I think maybe we are getting old. When I was young and poor, and paid for an album, I savoured every moment, every song, every tone on that album. Plus I didn't over think it. I just whole hearted loved it.

^^^ This. Albums were "complete works" not intended to be broken into songs. Though I started with 8-tracks, albums purchased were also recorded on cassettes, and both were listened to start to finish.... no skipping ;).

Digital changed that for some... not me. A collection of songs on a device... not I.

Then I really got into high quality recordings of live shows .... that became 3 cds from start to end. I had 1300 cds loaded into 5 players at one time. Never even considered using the feature that let you flag a song as "skip this one" either...

I just do not have a one track mind :D

Album titles .... too many to list.

oldE 09-02-2021 02:45 AM

Gordon Lightfoot - Shadows.

Best
Les

tabs 09-02-2021 03:06 AM

The Doors first album.

Get Yer Ya Ya's Out RS..

hbueno 09-02-2021 04:10 AM

Wish You Were Here and Dark Side of the Moon - you can't get more perfect than those two.

hbueno 09-02-2021 04:33 AM

Slightly less perfect :-)

Bad Girls - Donna Summer
Autumn - George Winston
Frampton Comes Alive - Peter Frampton
By the Way - Red Hot Chili Peppers

jcommin 09-02-2021 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craigster59 (Post 11445299)
Neil Young After The Gold Rush

Marvin Gaye What's Goin' On

Who Who's Next

Steely Dan Aja

Rolling Stones Let It Bleed

David Bowie Ziggy Stardust

Eagles Desperado

Byrds Sweethearts Of The Rodeo

Dave Brubeck Take Five

Ramsey Lewis Trio The In Crowd

Trini Lopez Live At PJ's

And many more....


A very good list. Actually the Desperado album is a very good album. I can't stand Hotel California.

Add to it:

All Things Must Pass - George Harrison
CSNY Deja Vu
CSNY 1st album

I have a few more -

stevej37 09-02-2021 04:51 AM

A couple Pink Floyd's mentioned....except for their best one...The Wall.

Seahawk 09-02-2021 04:57 AM

Great inputs!

I would add Earth, Wind and Fire:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1630583615.jpg

Also, Stevie Wonder:

Songs in the Key of Life
Innervisions
Talking Book

Roswell 09-02-2021 06:02 AM

This...the whole album...a masterpiece

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Norm K 09-02-2021 06:25 AM

At first blush I'd go with Tapestry and Rumors

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Z-man 09-02-2021 06:33 AM

The overall theme and song layout of U2's Unforgettable Fire is mesmerizing to me.

Seahawk 09-02-2021 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craigster59 (Post 11445299)
Ramsey Lewis Trio The In Crowd

Trini Lopez Live At PJ's

That brought back a lot of memories. My parents were huge fans of both.

I still have the old LP's.

I MAY have stared at this album cover, another great album:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1630589587.jpg

Rtrorkt 09-02-2021 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz (Post 11445316)
Led Zeppelin I
The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
Santana - 1st Album
The Band - 1st Album
Steely Dan - Can't Buy a Thrill
The Allman Brothers Band - At Fillmore East
Joe Walsh - Barnstorm
Carol King - Tapestry
Jackson Brown - For Everyman
Elton John - Madman Across the Water
Crosby Stills and Nash - 1st Album
Crosby Stills Nash and Young - Deja Vu
David Bowie - Alladin Sane
Jeff Beck Group - Rough and Ready
The Doobie Brothers - Takin' It To The Street

Great list Baz.
I am adding
Marvin Gaye, What's Going On
Fleetwood Mac; Kiln House
ZZTop, first album
Allman Bros; Live at the Filmore East
Little Feat; Waiting for Columbus
Joni MItchell, Blue, Court and the Spark, Hissing of Summer Lawns
Who, Who's Next
Santana, Abraxas
Kieth Jarrett; Koln Concert

HobieMarty 09-02-2021 07:23 AM

Def Leppard Hysteria.

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GH85Carrera 09-02-2021 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11445466)
A couple Pink Floyd's mentioned....except for their best one...The Wall.

The album is better than the movie for sure. The Wall needs to be listened to with headphones, in a quiet room. It sucks big time trying to listen to it in a noisy car like a 911.

And for some great hard rock,

Deep Purple, Made in Japan. That can be listen to in a noisy car!

KFC911 09-02-2021 07:53 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1630594368.jpg

:)

Pedro '84 Coupe 09-02-2021 08:00 AM

Some good ones on here! Don't want to repeat the Beach Boys, Beatles, Stones or LZ or other great albums that have been named, so here are some of mine:

Jimi Hendrix - Are You Experienced?, Live at Monterey, Electric Ladyland
Black Sabbath - Paranoid
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Freaky Styley, Uplift Mofo Party Plan and Mother's Milk
The Byrds - Live at Fillmore
The Who - Live at Leeds
Nirvana - Nevermind
Black Crowes - Southern Harmony and Musical Companion
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
Frank Sinatra - Live at the Sands
Grateful Dead - Europe '72
Weezer - Blue Album
Tame Impala - Lonerism (except one song...)
Beck - Odelay, Guero and Morning Phase
Johnny Cash - At Folsom Prison
Beastie Boys - Check Your Head and Ill Communication
Blind Melon - Blind Melon
The Cult - Electric
Son Volt - Trace
Tom Petty - Full Moon Fever and Wildflowers
Allman Bros Band - Eat a Peach
The Clash - London Calling and Combat Rock
Bob Marley - Catch a Fire
David Bowie - Let's Dance
Simon and Garfunkel - Bridge Over Troubled Water
Van Morrison - Astral Weeks, St. Dominic's Preview
Willie Nelson - Red Headed Stranger
Big Star - No. 1 Record
REM - Life's Rich Pageant and Reckoning
Lenny Kravitz - Let Love Rule and Are You Gonna Go My Way?

Man, I could be here all day thinking on this one! I know I'm missing some. Gotta get back to work :cool:

Deschodt 09-02-2021 08:25 AM

Front to back - Operation Mindcrime, Queensryche.
Almost: Misplaced childhood - Marillion

Sooner or later 09-02-2021 08:27 AM

I wore the grooves out.
ZZ Tres Hombres
Styx Grand Illusion
Trapeze Medusa

Salty Springs 09-02-2021 09:19 AM

Uriah Heep first album. The side with Gypsy and come away Melinda always blew me away. still does

HobieMarty 09-02-2021 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deschodt (Post 11445679)
Front to back - Operation Mindcrime, Queensryche.
Almost: Misplaced childhood - Marillion

Awesome album, I saw them do the whole thing live in Pensacola, Florida!!!! Great show, Suicidal Tendencies opened up for them!!!

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