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GH85Carrera 10-12-2021 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by dad911 (Post 11482380)
My last upgrade, I put the phones next to each other and the data was copied to the new iphone automatically.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210216

This is how I went from my 6S to my current 11 Pro. Just set the phones down side by side, and they transferred the data with ease.

I have nearly 100 gig of data on my phone, no way in hell am I going to do a cloud backup. I just do a backup to my computer, and I have a password on that so it is encrypted on the computer, and it stores the passwords and such on my phone. If the phone is stolen, or drops into a lake or some other disaster, I just plug a new phone into my computer and restore the last backup.

stomachmonkey 10-12-2021 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by pmax (Post 11482567)
Apple bricked the last imacproapplebook we had after just a few years, no OS upgrade available.

It's now in the landfill or at a toxic recycler overseas somewhere.

Bricked is when the device gets damaged in a way that makes it only useful as an actual brick.

Lack of upgradeability to the latest OS is not bricked.

Generally you get 6-8 compatible major releases and hardware is not end of lifed until it's 10 years or older.

Curious which model you had that you were only able to upgrade for a few years.

Was it like super NOS or a refurb when you bought it?

john70t 10-12-2021 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11482696)
Imagine, you're running Win 95 on a PC with an Intel 486SX processor and 4MB of RAM. You create a backup of Win 95 and then get a brand new PC running Windows 10 and try to restore your Win 95 settings to Win 10. You're not going to have any luck with that.

I believe the current version of IOS is 64-bit. I believe older versions were 32-bit (which is why you sometimes lose access to some apps after an upgrade). When exactly that change was made, I'm not sure (ie, IOS 12 --> 13 or ...).

That's a valid parallel.
Many people including myself lost significant data and programs when Microsoft forced Win10 onto the public and did not disclose the ramifications of switching over to the 64-bit system beforehand. There oughta be a law! I know a lot of programs just stopped working even in "compatibility mode", which was not very functional nor designed correctly for the most part.

pmax 10-12-2021 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11482711)
Interesting. My wife is still running her macbook air 11" that was the lowest spec version they made in 2013 and hasn't been made in years.

Good for ya !

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 11482943)
Bricked is when the device gets damaged in a way that makes it only useful as an actual brick.

Lack of upgradeability to the latest OS is not bricked.

Generally you get 6-8 compatible major releases and hardware is not end of lifed until it's 10 years or older.

Curious which model you had that you were only able to upgrade for a few years.

Was it like super NOS or a refurb when you bought it?


Don't know.

Here's pic after it spilled its guts later in storage after the OS went dead.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1588709099.jpg

GH85Carrera 10-12-2021 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by john70t (Post 11483057)
That's a valid parallel.
Many people including myself lost significant data and programs when Microsoft forced Win10 onto the public and did not disclose the ramifications of switching over to the 64-bit system beforehand. There oughta be a law! I know a lot of programs just stopped working even in "compatibility mode", which was not very functional nor designed correctly for the most part.

Windows 11 is coming soon. You may wake up one day and find your computer has an all new OS.

Win 10 will be phased out in 2025 I think.

stomachmonkey 10-12-2021 10:57 AM

[QUOTE=masraum;11482696

I believe the current version of IOS is 64-bit. I believe older versions were 32-bit (which is why you sometimes lose access to some apps after an upgrade). When exactly that change was made, I'm not sure (ie, IOS 12 --> 13 or ...).[/QUOTE]

Tiger, 2005, was the first to support 32/64 apps.

32 bit support ended in 2019 with Catalina.

Apple have always been very good about maintaining compatibility for as long as possible even across major disruptions like the move from PPC to Intel and now ARM.

masraum 10-12-2021 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 11483130)
Tiger, 2005, was the first to support 32/64 apps.

32 bit support ended in 2019 with Catalina.

Apple have always been very good about maintaining compatibility for as long as possible even across major disruptions like the move from PPC to Intel and now ARM.

Right, but that's in MacOS. IOS was different. IOS was 32bit before 11 and 64bit after. And when they made the change, if the app dev folks didn't update, then the app just stopped working.

rockfan4 10-12-2021 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11483075)
Windows 11 is coming soon. You may wake up one day and find your computer has an all new OS.

Win 10 will be phased out in 2025 I think.

Just looking at this today.
Win 11 requires TPM 2.0 - Trusted Platform Module.
None of the hardware I own has TPM 2.0, it's all 1.2.
But then again, I'm a cheap bastard and I haven't bought a new laptop in years. The one I'm typing this on is still Win 7, and really should be replaced. The motherboard is cracked and if you hold it wrong it flakes out or just shuts down. The one I take when we go out of town is newer, in fact I just updated it to Win 10 21H1 today. But it won't run Win 11 without some workarounds.


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