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Fitbit and apple iphone planned obsolescence?

Has anybody else run into this? I have an Apple iphone 5S and tried to run Fitbit Charge 4 recently and it won't run. According to the internet the 5S wont accept IOS13 anymore. Mine shows it has IOS 12.5 and is updated. Is there any way around this or do I have buy a newer phone?

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This is not terribly surprising.

It's like you're trying to integrate modern ABS brakes into a 65 VW bug.

You need a newer phone.
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Sort of a related question, here: When updating to a new iPhone, how do you transfer pics and video from the old to the new phone?
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Sort of a related question, here: When updating to a new iPhone, how do you transfer pics and video from the old to the new phone?
With my iPhone 8, I load period backups onto my computer. Theoretically, if I get a new phone, I can import the backup data onto it.
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Fitbit and apple iphone planned obsolescence?

Back up the old phone to your computer, restore the new phone with the old backup.

I am on a 11pro now and started with a iPhone 1, the original. I still have photos taken with the one on my current phone. And text messages all the way back to my first ever text message.
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Back up the old phone to your computer, restore the new phone with the old backup.

I am on a 11pro now and started with a iPhone 1, the original. I still have photos taken with the one on my current phone. And text messages all the way back to my first ever text message.
What was your first ever text message?
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Thanks all for your great advice!
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Or, just back it up to the cloud. Mine backs up automatically. Set up new phone and voila!
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Has anybody else run into this? I have an Apple iphone 5S and tried to run Fitbit Charge 4 recently and it won't run. According to the internet the 5S wont accept IOS13 anymore. Mine shows it has IOS 12.5 and is updated. Is there any way around this or do I have buy a newer phone?
As of last years numbers the 5S was 1.5% of iPhone user base.

It's not planned obsolescence to stop supporting an old device with minimal user base.
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What was your first ever text message?
I was a dinosaur and saw no use of text messages. It is a phone, why not call?

I had a little Sony smart phone, with the internet turned off. My dad gave me his old iPhone 1 when he moved to a iPhone 3. I used that phone as a neat music player and toy.

My first ever text was to my dad, and it was:

"You sent me to the "dark side" I activated the iPhone today and it's a cool toy!"
His reply was "Good, enjoy!"

April 21, 2010.

I resisted until then. Now I am totally dependent on my smart phone. I run a business with it, and I can't imagine going back to life without it. The camera is just knock my socks off high quality. I have my entire collection of 120 CDs on it, 30 Gig of photos, 2.7 gig of text messages, but only use 95 gig of the 256 gig available on the phone.

My business partner bought one of the old Motorola Brick size phone and ever call was expensive. He has been texting since it became available. Most of our phone conversations start with a text of "Talk" and the other person calls if not busy or replies 10 minutes or whatever time is needed.

We talk for any real conversation, but lots of business is conducted with a text message first.
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Or, just back it up to the cloud. Mine backs up automatically. Set up new phone and voila!
This ^^^^

Everything now has planned obsolescence.
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AT&T has an app that you run that transfers the files via bluetooth.
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My last upgrade, I put the phones next to each other and the data was copied to the new iphone automatically.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210216
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AT&T has an app that you run that transfers the files via bluetooth.
Why doesn't Apple have that as standard?
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It's not planned obsolescence to stop supporting an old device with minimal user base.
The chicken and the egg question. When the company erases user music purchase .dbs during updates...slows down older models regardless of battery condition...a fraudulent bait-n-switch situation might be involved at some point.

Apeal has announced they will search all phones and at-will modify a customers proprietary data stored locally in the name of 'eradicating child pron'. We can erase all your shyte and there is nothing you can do. With a campaign name like that who could ever protest it?

Oh and iPhones automatically take a picture of the phone user every five seconds (stealing secure biometric data). Hope that never gets sold on the deep web to bank robbers.
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Has anybody else run into this? I have an Apple iphone 5S and tried to run Fitbit Charge 4 recently and it won't run. According to the internet the 5S wont accept IOS13 anymore. Mine shows it has IOS 12.5 and is updated. Is there any way around this or do I have buy a newer phone?
Apple bricked the last imacproapplebook we had after just a few years, no OS upgrade available.

It's now in the landfill or at a toxic recycler overseas somewhere.
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This ^^^^

Everything now has planned obsolescence.
I suspect that mostly only works if you're running a relatively current version of IOS.

If you upgrade from a X or 11 to a 13, then you can probably backup and restore.

If you were running a dinosaur (5 or 5S) and on an older version of IOS, you probably won't have much luck doing a restore to a new phone.

Imagine, you're running Win 95 on a PC with an Intel 486SX processor and 4MB of RAM. You create a backup of Win 95 and then get a brand new PC running Windows 10 and try to restore your Win 95 settings to Win 10. You're not going to have any luck with that.

If you had a bunch of files, images, word docs, etc..., you would probably be able to transfer those somehow. But a restore won't work.

I believe the current version of IOS is 64-bit. I believe older versions were 32-bit (which is why you sometimes lose access to some apps after an upgrade). When exactly that change was made, I'm not sure (ie, IOS 12 --> 13 or ...).
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Apple bricked the last imacproapplebook we had after just a few years, no OS upgrade available.

It's now in the landfill or at a toxic recycler overseas somewhere.
Interesting. My wife is still running her macbook air 11" that was the lowest spec version they made in 2013 and hasn't been made in years.

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