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Rick Lee 10-13-2021 05:55 PM

Why was I refused a sale of Zyrtec-D?
 
The Fry's pharmacy could not tell me. They scanned my DL and said there's a block on it. WTF? I have the new "real ID," I have Global Entry and no criminal record. The pharm tech asked when I last bought it. I said about seven years ago. Obviously, whatever I have left is long expired. Come to think of it, the last time I bought it was at a Ralph's in Studio City, CA. And they refused the sale too. But then they asked for my Fry's club card and then they said it was all good and sold it to me. Anyway, just now, on the way home from Fry's I tried at CVS and they also scanned my license, let me buy it. WTF is this? How do I fix it?

masraum 10-13-2021 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 11484895)
How do I fix it?

Stop going to Frys? :confused:

Which is extra weird since here, they were an electronics store.

That's a weird thing that you've got going on. If you were refused someplace, but not another, then I would think that it would have to be the place that refused you that you'd need to talk to. If Frys refused you, but CVS didn't, then I think you need to talk to someone at Frys that can get to the bottom of the problem.

stomachmonkey 10-13-2021 06:54 PM

It could have just been the pharmacist is a dick or thought you were sketchy.

I require insulin syringes which do not require a prescription

The one ***** pharmacist at my CVS will not dispense the syringes without a prescription because "it's at her discretion"

Mind you she will dispense me the meds that require the syringes, but not the syringes themselves even at the same time.

I hate this word but she is a royal rhymes with bunt.

Even her own staff hate her.

Why?

Cause she is a power tripping POS and everyone in the community despises her with a passion.

Rick Lee 10-13-2021 07:09 PM

I didn't get that vibe at all from this woman and I've been getting scripts there for 11 yrs. She knows me and my doctor's office. My issue is that neither she, nor the pharmacist could tell me how to fix this, like there's no recourse. I'm not gonna die without it, and I can always have my wife or a friend get it for me. But WTF?

Arizona_928 10-13-2021 07:10 PM

Pharmacies use that dea database. Kroger prolly has schit software.... fun fact. If you have a cac or dd form 2 you can buy an extra dose. What is more fun is that if you get that from an installation pharmacy. It's not under dea jurisdiction as the software is by state.

Rick Lee 10-13-2021 07:14 PM

When I last got it, it was kind of urgent. The non-D stuff does nothing for me. I had just ridden my bike to LA, it was crazy hot in Oct. there and I was in total misery. But I got it and all was well. Haven't touched it since there, but the sinuses have been acting up this week and I want a quick fix nearby if I need it.

john70t 10-13-2021 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 11484955)
The one ***** pharmacist at my CVS will not dispense the syringes without a prescription because "it's at her discretion"

Use the "I'm a junkie" excuse?
(it seems that was what she was looking for)

RANDY P 10-13-2021 07:45 PM

They know about your guns Rick.

rjp

fintstone 10-13-2021 07:54 PM

They use it to make meth...comb your hair and brush your teeth...and stop buying so much. Big brother is watching.

Shuie 10-13-2021 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 11484895)
How do I fix it?

Neti pot. And Flonase :)

fintstone 10-13-2021 08:11 PM

Try Allegra D (Fexofenadine / Pseudoephedrine). It works better than Zyrtec for me anyways. Actually I take the generic version of Allegra because it is cheap...and use a cheap generic decongestant as needed. It is really inexpensive and all over the counter.

Rick Lee 10-13-2021 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 11484991)
Try Allegra D (Fexofenadine / Pseudoephedrine). It works better than Zyrtec for me anyways. Actually I take the generic version of Allegra because it is cheap...and use a cheap generic decongestant as needed. It is really inexpensive and all over the counter.

Zyrtec-D is OTC too. But the "D" means it's really behind the counter and you have to let them scan your ID to get it. I know why they do this, but it's ridiculous. Hell, I once had a script for it before it was OTC. And before that I dated a nurse who gave me lots of free samples before it was OTC. I'm going to use it for my own sinus relief and nothing else.

fintstone 10-13-2021 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 11485001)
Zyrtec-D is OTC too. But the "D" means it's really behind the counter and you have to let them scan your ID to get it. I know why they do this, but it's ridiculous. Hell, I once had a script for it before it was OTC. And before that I dated a nurse who gave me lots of free samples before it was OTC. I'm going to use it for my own sinus relief and nothing else.

Yes, I know. The same for Allegra D...but Allegra is now OTC and so are many effective decongestants. Saves big bucks and works better for me.

cabmandone 10-14-2021 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 11485001)
Zyrtec-D is OTC too. But the "D" means it's really behind the counter and you have to let them scan your ID to get it. I know why they do this, but it's ridiculous. Hell, I once had a script for it before it was OTC. And before that I dated a nurse who gave me lots of free samples before it was OTC. I'm going to use it for my own sinus relief and nothing else.

Have you tried any of the nasal sprays? I use a combination of a regular zyrtec and a shot of Nasonex when the crops start coming off. That or I use my Navage since the saline rinse seems to last longer for me than the pills do.

David 10-14-2021 05:23 AM

Sounds like someone used your DL number to by medicine to make meth and got you on the list.

masraum 10-14-2021 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 11485197)
Sounds like someone used your DL number to by medicine to make meth and got you on the list.

That was my first thought as well, but then he's able to go to another store, get scanned, and make a purchase. So if the second store is scanning and checking the same backend database, then it's not likely due to the database.

I'd call corporate for the place that denied the purchase. Be persistent. "We don't know" isn't a good answer. You may also ask to see the results of the scan.

GH85Carrera 10-14-2021 05:32 AM

If you have a good relationship with your doctor, have him write a prescription for it. In Oklahoma I can buy it without a prescription, but only a small supply. With a prescription I can get a 100 pills at a time. I hate going to the pharmacy, and I prefer as few trips there as possible.

The problem is all because of the meth heads. Their meth use is the only reason you have a problem getting it.

jhynesrockmtn 10-14-2021 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 11485001)
Zyrtec-D is OTC too. But the "D" means it's really behind the counter and you have to let them scan your ID to get it. I know why they do this, but it's ridiculous. Hell, I once had a script for it before it was OTC. And before that I dated a nurse who gave me lots of free samples before it was OTC. I'm going to use it for my own sinus relief and nothing else.

I'm guessing software issue. They monitor how often you buy. My wife mistakenly bought the 24 hr at Costco one time and wanted the 12 hr. She sent me back to get it the next day. "Just be Cool" she said. I almost screwed it up by over answering questions. "Sir is this for you?" I stumble through "Uh yea, sure, it's not for my wife or for making meth" or something like that. Mission accomplished.

Rick Lee 10-14-2021 06:10 AM

My doctor will write a script for it. But I use it so seldom, it's just not worth it and I want to fix the root cause here. WTF is on my DL that causes any database to hold something up? I buy guns all the time, never a hiccup with my DL, no cop has ever asked anything about it during a traffic stop.

red-beard 10-14-2021 06:14 AM

The database is run by the Feds. I picked some up for my wife in Houston. A few days later, I needed a small amount while I was in Idaho and I was denied. I told the pharmacist that I needed enough for 3 days. He was able to get an override for the smallest box.

3rd_gear_Ted 10-14-2021 06:25 AM

Data point:
96,000 people died of drug overdoses in the last 12 months per CDC.

jhynesrockmtn 10-14-2021 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 11485255)
My doctor will write a script for it. But I use it so seldom, it's just not worth it and I want to fix the root cause here. WTF is on my DL that causes any database to hold something up? I buy guns all the time, never a hiccup with my DL, no cop has ever asked anything about it during a traffic stop.

It isn't that kind of thing, they track how often you buy it and it triggers if you try to buy more than a certain amount in a certain period of time. The rules are all to keep you from Breaking Bad.

Rick Lee 10-14-2021 06:36 AM

I don't think two purchases with 7-8 yrs. are excessive. If someone else has a scan of my license, I'd like to know how that happened. I got a new DL in Feb. 2020 and I was also denied a sale on my old DL around 2013-14. Wouldn't law enforcement want to ask me some questions if I were really buying lots of pseudoephedrine meds?

GH85Carrera 10-14-2021 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 3rd_gear_Ted (Post 11485287)
Data point:
96,000 people died of drug overdoses in the last 12 months per CDC.

And Rick getting denied a package of a legitimate over the counter allergy medications affected that number how?

jhynesrockmtn 10-14-2021 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 11485317)
I don't think two purchases with 7-8 yrs. are excessive. If someone else has a scan of my license, I'd like to know how that happened. I got a new DL in Feb. 2020 and I was also denied a sale on my old DL around 2013-14. Wouldn't law enforcement want to ask me some questions if I were really buying lots of pseudoephedrine meds?

Your purchase frequency is not the issue. The window is like 14 days. What I'm saying is, this isn't a problem with your DL. It is most likely user error or a problem with the software at your pharmacy. They absolutely should be able to tell you what happened. The "we don't know" is bs or an idiot/lazy person at the pharmacy. Get a supervisor involved. They owe you an explanation.

Walgreens cannot figure out my insurance no matter how many times they have tried and no matter how many times my insurance company tells me they are the preferred 90 day pharmacy on my plan. My card is fine. The techs who work the computers at the pharmacy, not so much.

jhynesrockmtn 10-14-2021 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11485343)
And Rick getting denied a package of a legitimate over the counter allergy medications affected that number how?

Do we really know Rick isn't Walter or Jesse?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1634223769.jpg

masraum 10-14-2021 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 11485317)
I don't think two purchases with 7-8 yrs. are excessive.


The first step is admitting that you've got a problem, sir. Not understanding that a couple of pills over a decade is a problem is clearly part of the problem.

masraum 10-14-2021 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jhynesrockmtn (Post 11485352)
YWhat I'm saying is, this isn't a problem with your DL. It is most likely user error or a problem with the software at your pharmacy.

agreed
Quote:

They absolutely should be able to tell you what happened. The "we don't know" is bs or an idiot/lazy person at the pharmacy. Get a supervisor involved. They owe you an explanation.
exactly what I was thinking. If he can purchase one place, but not another, then it's not the database flagging his ID, it's something else. And there has to be a way to determine when there's an issue and then resolve it.

KFC911 10-14-2021 07:27 AM

Lemme get this straight....

You could have passed for a LEO back then.... now yer a long haired, pony tailed, guitar playin' meth dealer :)

Get a haircut?

I keed.... I keed :D

Deschodt 10-14-2021 07:33 AM

Similar thing happened to my wife at CVS this week.
You can buy the "Advil cold and sinus" OR the allergy med, but not both at once... WHAT ???
It's like going to Safeway and being told its Beef or chicken today sir! Not both.

Apparently we're starting a meth lab with 1 box of each every couple of month, don't you know?
That DB needs some triggers reset.

RANDY P 10-14-2021 07:33 AM

Is there a lost DL of yours out there?

rjp

porsche4life 10-14-2021 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhynesrockmtn (Post 11485352)
Your purchase frequency is not the issue. The window is like 14 days. What I'm saying is, this isn't a problem with your DL. It is most likely user error or a problem with the software at your pharmacy. They absolutely should be able to tell you what happened. The "we don't know" is bs or an idiot/lazy person at the pharmacy. Get a supervisor involved. They owe you an explanation.

Walgreens cannot figure out my insurance no matter how many times they have tried and no matter how many times my insurance company tells me they are the preferred 90 day pharmacy on my plan. My card is fine. The techs who work the computers at the pharmacy, not so much.



It’s absolutely this. When I worked in a pharmacy, we had to enter those sales into a state run system. It was always a pain in the ass and would deny for random reasons. If you had patience and held your mouth just right you could get them to go through though. I’m guessing the folks at frys just didn’t want to take the time to figure out the system and help you out.

cabmandone 10-14-2021 08:07 AM

Reason number 4 on the list of reasons you should never go to the drug store without first showering and combing your hair. :)

GH85Carrera 10-14-2021 08:17 AM

One of my friends, of a friend, somehow got on the federal no fly list. He has to assume it was because he has a common name and someone with the same name was added. He has fought through a lot of red tape to get back off that list. It is like calling the IRS, or getting an in person face to face talk to a Social Security employee, almost impossible.

He had to call his congressman to get someone to even talk to about getting off that list.

Zeke 10-14-2021 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3rd_gear_Ted (Post 11485287)
Data point:
96,000 people died of drug overdoses in the last 12 months per CDC.

An infinitesimal amount compared to other causes of death even after removing COVID from the list. The FDA has it's head up it's own politically controlled ass. Sorry for the PARF comment but that is entirely and absolutely the problem.

Watch "The Pollinators" (about honey bees) on Amazon to see how corrupt our so called gov't 'protection' agencies work. BTW, it's an excellent documentary even w/o the exposing of the EPA, USDA and the FDA.

nota 10-14-2021 11:27 AM

you have a very very common name

some one likely did something sometime somewhere

likely not worth the effort to fix

Arizona_928 10-14-2021 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11485343)
And Rick getting denied a package of a legitimate over the counter allergy medications affected that number how?

I'm guessing those weren't truckers on the original no doze formula...

porsche4life 10-14-2021 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by nota (Post 11485720)
you have a very very common name

some one likely did something sometime somewhere

likely not worth the effort to fix

His real name isnt his screen name, and I suspect there aren’t a ton of folks with his last name…

masraum 10-14-2021 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 11485846)
His real name is it is screen name, and I suspect there aren’t a ton of folks with his last name…

Lee? You mean like Robert E Lee, and probably a several million Chinese (who can be Lee, Le, Li, etc...)?

Hell, his name's got it's own Wikipedia page that includes a list of "famous" folks with the name.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lee

porsche4life 10-14-2021 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11485858)
Lee? You mean like Robert E Lee, and probably a several million Chinese (who can be Lee, Le, Li, etc...)?

Hell, his name's got it's own Wikipedia page that includes a list of "famous" folks with the name.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lee

Yes, Lee is a very common last name, but ricks real last name isn’t “Lee”. ;).


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