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jyl 10-30-2021 10:08 PM

Let’s Have A E28 / E30 / E24 Thread
 
My sig has said “looking for a E28” for years. It won’t anymore. Brought this home.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1635660387.jpg

I think there’s a couple other E28s here, and might as well invite the similar era E30 and E24 (and any ‘80s-ish Beemer) to the thread as well. Who’s got one, had one, thinking about one, have stories about one?

Heel n Toe 10-30-2021 10:22 PM

Very cool... what's your story on how this E28 found its way to you?





(Happy E39 owner here)

Jims5543 10-31-2021 03:04 AM

I think an E21 would be a better fit here, the E30 body style is a bit different than the E28/24.

I have a E21 bone stock and a E30 with a 99 M5028 swapped in, mated to a E46 6 speed. Fun little car.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...5mWhQr7-XL.jpg

Skytrooper 10-31-2021 03:53 AM

I had a 528 up until the spring of 2012. That was a great car to drive ! It was also one of my wifes favorites.

sugarwood 10-31-2021 03:56 AM

More details about the car?
What things are you going to sort out first?

What made you want an 80s 5-series?

herr_oberst 10-31-2021 04:27 AM

This fell into my lap a few months ago.
84 533i, 5 speed.
The car needs quite a bit of sorting but the body is solid and straight for the most part and I'm digging the Bronzit color. I'll replace these off-brand wheels with some BMW style 5's...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1635683160.jpg

pavulon 10-31-2021 06:20 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1635688993.jpg

Agreed to buy last winter but due to border issues, arrived late this summer. Japanese (but LHD?) 518i, auto, no sunroof car brought to British Columbia by original owner. I'm supposedly the 3rd owner. Picked up Alpina wheels and stiff, lowered suspension somewhere along the line. Manual windows, no A/C. Failing polaris silver paint, blue cloth interior. No rust. Needs a BMW 6, manual trans and LSD (or torsen). Getting the DMV to issue plates has taken over a month now but am hopeful they show before it goes into hibernation for winter.

wilnj 10-31-2021 06:55 AM

A speed shop opened up in town near our barber. Took my 13 yo to get a haircut and said let’s go see what’s in the parking lot.

There’s a race prepped Cayman, a few 911s including a pair of GT3s from 100 yards away he spots the E23 745i (grey market) that he wants to look at.

Same kid that I took the NY Auto show and he identified the Lambo Miura from across the floor.

herr_oberst 10-31-2021 07:26 AM

So, how many LHD E28's built for the Japanese market with a sunroof delete do you think are rolling around in the US right now?

pavulon 10-31-2021 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 11503789)
So, how many LHD E28's built for the Japanese market with a sunroof delete do you think are rolling around in the US right now?

Lol! Not many, of course. Seems like all non-M early cars were driven extensively and if the roads were salted, their countdown clocks went into overdrive. Being rust free and euro-market were my primary considerations. Everything else was "bonus".

I dig the modded E30 sedan Jims5543 posted! Are you going to modify your 533 much?

slow&rusty 10-31-2021 07:53 AM

I recently brought this rare bird...an early M635 (1984), currently going through it.

http://bigcoupe.com/phpBB2/download/file.php?id=32452

I also own this '86 635CSi (Manual, Recaros, LSD, custom exhaust, lots of trick parts):
http://bigcoupe.com/phpBB2/download/file.php?id=32800

And I recently sold this on BaT:
https://bringatrailer.com/wp-content...?fit=940%2C627

jyl 10-31-2021 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 11503735)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1635688993.jpg

Agreed to buy last winter but due to border issues, arrived late this summer. Japanese (but LHD?) 518i, auto, no sunroof car brought to British Columbia by original owner. I'm supposedly the 3rd owner. Picked up Alpina wheels and stiff, lowered suspension somewhere along the line. Manual windows, no A/C. Failing polaris silver paint, blue cloth interior. No rust. Needs a BMW 6, manual trans and LSD (or torsen). Getting the DMV to issue plates has taken over a month now but am hopeful they show before it goes into hibernation for winter.

That is a connoisseur’s car! Rarer on US roads than a black/black E28 M5.

What I6 are you going to transplant?

herr_oberst 10-31-2021 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 11503801)
Are you going to modify your 533 much?

I don't think so. It came with H&R lowering springs, it has the M30 motor, and LSD with the 5 speed. Seems to have enough oomph to get out of its own way, without being obnoxious. My plan for it is to be a competent luxury liner, a road tripper that I can take on a 3 or 4 day drive and be entertained and comfortable; with enough patina that I don't have to worry about leaving it out in a parking lot or driving through an all-day rainstorm.

pavulon 10-31-2021 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyl (Post 11503807)
That is a connoisseur’s car! Rarer on US roads than a black/black E28 M5.

What I6 are you going to transplant?

Currently, a reeaally patient connoisseur...it's so, so slow. I'm leaning heavily toward an M30 based 6...possibly turbo'd because although I love the way a hot NA M30 can sound with ITBs, I don't want to be disappointed by low levels of fun (torque).

slow&rusty's 6 series look like great stuff too and IIRC, he has or had a great 8 series as well!

jyl 10-31-2021 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heel n Toe (Post 11503588)
Very cool... what's your story on how this E28 found its way to you?

(Happy E39 owner here)

I’ll give you the short-ish version.

Started looking for an E28 at least 6 years ago. The cars were dirt cheap then, I found decent-ish examples for $4-5K. I went to some 5’er meets, got to know a restoration wizard who took me for a ride in his E28 with coilovers, it cornered flatter than my 911 and burned rubber for 100 feet.

A little old lady who worked in my building had a perfect one. Blue 535is, one owner, driven by a UBS financial advisor since her younger years (when she was a pistol, I reckon), now did the 1 mile daily commute from her expensive condo’s garage to her downtown office building’s garage. She promised to sell it to me when she retired, and as she was then in her late 70s I figured all I needed was to be patient and keep in touch with her.

Fast forward a few years to early 2021, I do my annual check-in with Patty, and learn that she had had an accident and totalled her car. My car. After freaking out, I re-started my search. Now really clean E28s were $15-20K cars, I’d cost myself a pretty penny by sitting on my hands. Found a car, 1986 535i, one owner since new, who’d taken it to Dubai during his expat decades (it still has the Emirates windows decals) and back to the US, then delivered it to a restoration shop in 2019, gotten it back in late 2020, promptly put it up for sale, and eventually sold it to me for less than he’d spent on the bare metal respray etc.

Sounds weird. So as we’re getting to know each other, all long distance, I dig and research, hunt down info on him, and figure out what happened. He had restored his baby as a present for his youngest boy, who was in his 40s or 50s by then. In December 2020 his son died of cancer. So he was saying goodbye to his son and his car.

I was hooked. A car with that much love in it, not common. I got a PPI, had a call with the shop about what they found, and a long call with the restorer about what was done. Reports all came back A-OK. Hook set. Bought it sight unseen, it’s taken months to find a transporter and get it from VA to here. I’ve had it for all of 18 hours, preliminary verdict is not 100% perfect but close enough. Have a few things to iron out but the E28 guys online tell me they are trivial ones.

More pics later.

Most important thing is I took my wife for a ride last night and even in the dark, with the interior lights and locks flakey, she really likes it. I gave her my speech about how I buy cars at the bottom of their depreciation curve that go up in value blah blah. All she cares about is the car’s story, that it is more comfortable than the Porsche or Vanagon, and that we can take it on roadtrips (I hope). That’s good, because I bought it without telling her (ahem, vash).

herr_oberst 10-31-2021 08:27 AM

This sad sack lives near me, slowly rotting away at the curb. Hasn't moved one inch since I've lived here, at least 6 or 7 years... I walk or cycle by it frequently. I'm sure at this point it's just a parts car; lots of visible rust so I can just imagine the hidden horrors that it hides....

It does have the little wipers for the headlights - does any option from Germany make you chuckle as much as these do?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1635697498.jpg

jyl 10-31-2021 08:51 AM

I think headlight wipers are kewl! Seriously.

Quote:

Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 11503853)
This sad sack lives near me, slowly rotting away at the curb. Hasn't moved one inch since I've lived here, at least 6 or 7 years... I walk or cycle by it frequently. I'm sure at this point it's just a parts car; lots of visible rust so I can just imagine the hidden horrors that it hides....

It does have the little wipers for the headlights - does any option from Germany make you chuckle as much as these do?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1635697498.jpg


fastfredracing 10-31-2021 09:56 AM

From back when BMW was something special.

pmax 10-31-2021 10:48 AM

Hey look, entire forums !

BMW Forums - Pelican Parts Forums

jyl 10-31-2021 11:43 AM

This is the cutest parthttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1635709409.jpg

908/930 10-31-2021 11:54 AM

My stock 87, auto at the moment but have a 5 speed ready to install.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1635710024.jpg

pavulon 10-31-2021 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 908/930 (Post 11504016)
My stock 87, auto at the moment but have a 5 speed ready to install.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1635710024.jpg

Beauty!!! SmileWavy

Big special Thank You to 908/930 for putting eyes on my car in BC!!

rrental 10-31-2021 12:26 PM

Love my E30. Unfortunately pricing is going up dramatically making it a bit more difficult to find parts.

ahttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1635711805.jpg

908/930 10-31-2021 12:32 PM

No prob Pavulon, glad I could help. Your euro e28 is quite a cool looking car.

wilnj 10-31-2021 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 11503828)
Currently, a reeaally patient connoisseur...it's so, so slow. I'm leaning heavily toward an M30 based 6...possibly turbo'd because although I love the way a hot NA M30 can sound with ITBs, I don't want to be disappointed by low levels of fun (torque).

slow&rusty's 6 series look like great stuff too and IIRC, he has or had a great 8 series as well!


S52 is supposed to be fairly easy.

stevej37 10-31-2021 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmax (Post 11503964)
Hey look, entire forums !

BMW Forums - Pelican Parts Forums


lol

pavulon 10-31-2021 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilnj (Post 11504127)
S52 is supposed to be fairly easy.

Lots of options. LS, almost any BMW 6, turbo...but the trans has to fit too.

speeder 10-31-2021 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 11503655)
This fell into my lap a few months ago.
84 533i, 5 speed.
The car needs quite a bit of sorting but the body is solid and straight for the most part and I'm digging the Bronzit color. I'll replace these off-brand wheels with some BMW style 5's...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1635683160.jpg

If this has a black interior, I owned the exact car 20 years ago. It was bone stock and in fantastic mechanical condition, one of the strongest cars I’ve ever had, including Porsches.

I have very fond memories of driving it to MN from CA for Christmas one year at triple digit speeds and then drifting like crazy on the snow packed roads while I was there. Hall of Fame car. +++

McLovin 10-31-2021 04:59 PM

I have over 30 years of wrenching on and owning E21s, E30s, E24s and E28.
Currently own my “dream versions” of 2 of them.
After having many Porsches over the years (mostly 911, 914 and 944), all the Porsches are gone, highly likely to never be replaced.
But my 80s BMWs are forever cars. No plan to ever sell.
I’ve pretty much done every possible repair and maintenance job on E21s and E24/28 (the Gen 2 E24 the E28 share the same chassis and mechanicals), most of them multiple times.
Great cars, IMO there’s nothing quite like them.

Jims5543 10-31-2021 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 11503801)
I dig the modded E30 sedan Jims5543 posted! Are you going to modify your 533 much?

It is Rammsteins old car, when he bought it he emailed me about it, I told him if he ever wanted to get rid of it to give me 1st dibs.

He did and I bought it. It is nicknamed the panty dropper. The two guys before me who owned it knocked their wife's up twice forcing the sale of the car.

It has a cam / chip / intake in it and the reason for the 2.8 M50 is because it was always intended to have FI added to it, I am really close to adding a super charger to it.

My problem is, it is already hard to keep planted with approx 250HP I cannot imagine what a handful it will be with more than that.

The guy that restored it, cleaned up the engine bay nicely. I added the Mason strut bar.

If I were swapping in an engine on an older 5 series I would look into a S52 or S54. No need for valve adjustments and some nice HP.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...KZvMgTb-XL.jpg

jyl 10-31-2021 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jims5543 (Post 11504348)
I am really close to adding a super charger

Say more! What kind, what’s involved?

WPOZZZ 10-31-2021 07:20 PM

Ahh, the keepers of the old school Bimmers! My first was a 528e, then I had a slew of E24s, a couple of E30s. My 2.3 liter E30 was so-so. I really liked my E34s.

pmax 10-31-2021 07:57 PM

Someone help doxdodo !

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1635722523.jpg

Rob Channell 10-31-2021 09:08 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1635741427.JPG
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1635741427.JPG

One with the wheels that were on it when I bought it and one with the wheels I chose to replace them (8x17 style 42).
The cool...
5 speed,
M3 sized brake upgrade,
MTech springs
Dinan sized swaybars
Adjustable Sport Konis, switching back to Bilsteins
Limited slip from E30 (3.73)
Recaro LS driver seat (love it, wish I had about 9 more)
E30 passenger sport seat
I have had it on the track once. It handled well but I thought it needed more power. Skip "Crash" Carlson drove it and liked it a lot.

The not so cool.....
Interior in very poor condition, seat rips, door panels disintegrating
Water leaks into interior
Paint peeling even worse now than in pictures, surface rust on hood
Rear ended in driver rear, pushed in bumper a bit
May repaint but cannot decide between respray in original color or battleship grey with diagonal M stripes across it similar to my $2000 challenge E36.

Jims5543 11-01-2021 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyl (Post 11504369)
Say more! What kind, what’s involved?

There are a few kits out there, ECS has one, and a few other venders.

My 2.8 was set up to be supercharged, IIRC, it has a cam in it selected just fro FI.

2 owners back is the guy that built up this car. He picked the 2.8 over a 3.0 because he wanted the thicker cylinder walls and sturdier engine to handle the boost.

Most places claim 6 psi will add 100HP with their tune.

dewolf 11-01-2021 02:31 AM

Had this for a while. Factory manual M535I

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1635762693.jpg

87911jon 11-01-2021 03:36 AM

My '88 M5. 5 year restoration, full bare metal repaint, euro leather dash, swapped the S38 for a M88 euro, which was fully rebuilt at VSR in NH. Basically, replaced whatever was needed. Sad part is I'm pretty sure I'll be selling her at some point.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1635765970.jpg

Pedro '84 Coupe 11-01-2021 06:07 AM

Had two E30s (one cabrio, one sedan) and an E24. Loved those cars. Always wanted a nice E28 but never got the chance to pull the trigger. I owned an E39 too. Brother-in-law drives it now and loves it almost as much as I did.

strupgolf 11-01-2021 07:27 AM

Can I play in your group too.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1635780448.jpg

herr_oberst 11-01-2021 08:06 AM

Hey, this thread has gotten me thinking. I know that during my 911 ownership I watched as replacement parts became scarcer, more expensive and chintzier. So I put it to you ’80’s BMW owners; where are you buying your replacement parts and pieces? I’m thinking of things like brand new replacement body rubber and seals, mechanical wear items like alternators and water pumps, and the little jewel things like replacement tools for trunk mounted tool kits. I’m already seeing stuff that was available from Pelican just a couple of months ago listed as NLA…
Is there a good source that you go to for used NLA stuff like interior bits and bobs and electrical components like taillights or switches?

And, lastly, are there items that as a good steward I should be sort of squirreling away for future use - items that might not need replacement yet, but will be needed down the road that you are seeing getting scarcer?


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