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CA_WhaleTail 11-03-2021 08:23 PM

Crypto..Greater Fool Theory or the Real Deal?
 
Crypto .... What does the future hold?

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Arizona_928 11-03-2021 10:23 PM

Lot of real money is being made and lost....
It's a global currency that is essentially untaxable and untraceable.

I feel that it's an alternative to worthless paper currency and its hedging your bets on the future of finance. It's a counter culture to the corrupt banking industry, yet they pump and dump with no regulation (elon musk and doge coin).

With that said I'm full in on shiba. That is a hell of project and fanbase.

sc_rufctr 11-05-2021 02:09 AM

My mistake was not buying any in 2015. At that time Bitcoin was about $327 each!

- If you bought 10 of them and hung onto to them what would they be worth right now?
$61,649.80 USD x 10 = $616,498 :eek:

Anyways... There are a lot of true believers that are really excited and they use terms like "Trojan Horse".
If you have some cash laying around and you feel lucky then go for it but don't borrow money to buy in.

Meanwhile Tesla is now worth more than the next 10 car companies combined. How is that even possible?

Being really honest - This crazy world makes no sense to me.

Arizona_928 11-05-2021 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 11509124)

Meanwhile Tesla is now worth more than the next 10 car companies combined. How is that even possible?

I think that is the biggest issue/red flag. He made more off crypto by influencing than sales (like 700 million?). It should be considered insider trading. But as we know the crypto is not regulated. Pump and dumps are real.

If he pulled out his doge the coin would crash... Which once again he heavily influenced to the current price...

fintstone 11-05-2021 05:33 AM

Greater fool for both crypto and Tesla. Lots of money made playing the "greater fool" game as long as you are not in the wrong place when the music stops.

Arizona_928 11-05-2021 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 11509124)
My mistake was not buying any in 2015. At that time Bitcoin was about $327 each!

- If you bought 10 of them and hung onto to them what would they be worth right now?
$61,649.80 USD x 10 = $616,498 :eek:

hmmm should have crossed the border in 2016 and could have gotten 283k more for free without the risk of losing your initial investment.


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Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 11509265)
Greater fool for both crypto and Tesla. Lots of money made playing the "greater fool" game as long as you are not in the wrong place when the music stops.


I feel the USD in that category...

sc_rufctr 11-05-2021 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Arizona_928 (Post 11509276)
hmmm should have crossed the border in 2016 and could have gotten 283k more for free without the risk of losing your initial investment.

...

Do I want to know what happened in 2016? :(

Arizona_928 11-05-2021 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 11509334)
Do I want to know what happened in 2016? :(

Just making a connection to the free 450k x2 for crossing into the country illegally under the previous administration.

sc_rufctr 11-05-2021 08:18 AM

450k??? I should sneak into the US ;)

Arizona_928 11-05-2021 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 11509420)
450k??? I should sneak into the US ;)

Just snag a kid on the way in like the migrants have been doing since the 1980's.

masraum 11-05-2021 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 11509124)
My mistake was not buying any in 2015. At that time Bitcoin was about $327 each!

- If you bought 10 of them and hung onto to them what would they be worth right now?
$61,649.80 USD x 10 = $616,498 :eek:

Anyways... There are a lot of true believers that are really excited and they use terms like "Trojan Horse".
If you have some cash laying around and you feel lucky then go for it but don't borrow money to buy in.

Meanwhile Tesla is now worth more than the next 10 car companies combined. How is that even possible?

Being really honest - This crazy world makes no sense to me.

Many years ago, I thought, "I should buy $20 worth just because."
That certainly could have been nice, especially if I'd hung onto it.
Of course, there's no telling what I'd have done. I may have pulled it back out when that $20 turned into $100.

David Inc. 11-05-2021 09:39 AM

I first saw BTC when it first spiked up to a dollar before crashing. Everyone had a laugh at the dumb meme currency and moved on.

Yikes.

I mean I would have sold it when it got to $20, I could never have imagined it getting this high. I still can't, doesn't make a bit of sense.

MikeSid 11-05-2021 09:39 AM

Winter of 2019 I'm sitting at a semi-regular poker game and I bring up the subject of Bitcoin. I'm thinking of throwing $10K at it which - would buy 3 coins. The guy at the table who I would consider the easiest mark and not the sharpest tool in the shed, thinks it's a great idea. Based on his reaction and that fact that he thought it was a good idea, I promptly abandon the thought entirely.

Those coins would be worth about $200K today. Guess who the real idiot at that poker table was?

masraum 11-05-2021 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeSid (Post 11509515)
Winter of 2019 I'm sitting at a semi-regular poker game and I bring up the subject of Bitcoin. I'm thinking of throwing $10K at it which - would buy 3 coins. The guy at the table who I would consider the easiest mark and not the sharpest tool in the shed, thinks it's a great idea. Based on his reaction and that fact that he thought it was a good idea, I promptly abandon the thought entirely.

Those coins would be worth about $200K today. Guess who the real idiot at that poker table was?

Hindsight is 20/20. Would you have been nonchalant if you'd put the $10k in and it turned into $1k or disappeared completely? (If so, promptly mail me $10k. I may or may not give it back or more or less. :D)

David Inc. 11-05-2021 09:44 AM

That's the thing, though, it's unregulated and has no real value, but it sounds exciting and the numbers keep going up and up so it attracts fools. Some of those idiots are going to make big time dollars and some will lose everything, but... I mean they're still fools.

masraum 11-05-2021 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by David Inc. (Post 11509525)
That's the thing, though, it's unregulated and has no real value, but it sounds exciting and the numbers keep going up and up so it attracts fools. Some of those idiots are going to make big time dollars and some will lose everything, but... I mean they're still fools.

Fools and/or gamblers.

I'm not a gambler. I'm pretty risk averse and prefer to minimize my chance of a loss.

There are plenty of gamblers that would be happy to give it a go hoping for the big payout.

There are also lots of folks that get into stocks, and respond emotionally when things go up/down. The stocks go up and down (because that's what they do). And when the stocks that they bought go down, they sell, sell, sell! because they "lost money." They didn't lose anything until they sold. Those same folks will often wait until the stocks have been going back up for a while and then buy back in at an even greater loss, rinse, repeat. That's why I understand that most folks in the market make a fraction of the market average.

Arizona_928 11-05-2021 12:17 PM

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dewolf 11-05-2021 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Inc. (Post 11509525)
That's the thing, though, it's unregulated and has no real value, but it sounds exciting and the numbers keep going up and up so it attracts fools. Some of those idiots are going to make big time dollars and some will lose everything, but... I mean they're still fools.

No real value to you maybe, but to millions of other people it has. It certainly has value to governments who tax the profits you make from it.

pmax 11-05-2021 02:58 PM

All of the above.

Geronimo '74 11-05-2021 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 11509265)
Greater fool for both crypto and Tesla. Lots of money made playing the "greater fool" game as long as you are not in the wrong place when the music stops.

This
Ride the wave, jump off before it crashes into the rocks.
There is money to be made.


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