Electrical question again

[Bugsinrugs]

I ran a 20 amp circuit for the dishwasher and a separate 20 amp circuit for an over the range microwave. Except for the GFCI issue I think I’m good.

[look 171]

20 amp for DW is plenty. You oven should be gas and not elec? 20 amp is not enough for elec oven, normally. Pop in that GFI in the panel for the DW and you are good to go.

Any appliance in the kitchen that has a motor or heats water must be on a dedicated circuit. Two small appliances circuits are required for the entire kitchen counter area

[Bugsinrugs]

Originally Posted by look 171

20 amp for DW is plenty. You oven should be gas and not elec? 20 amp is not enough for elec oven, normally. Pop in that GFI in the panel for the DW and you are good to go.

Any appliance in the kitchen that has a motor or heats water must be on a dedicated circuit. Two small appliances circuits are required for the entire kitchen counter area

Yes, gas range. This was the answer I was seeking. Thanks

[john70t]

Originally Posted by look 171

20 amp for DW is plenty. You oven should be gas and not elec? 20 amp is not enough for elec oven, normally.

I'd gotten the rentals re-wired with a 20amp in the kitchen (blenders/micro), bathroom (hair drier), bedroom (space heaters/window AC), and living rooms. Separate legs for the big stuff. New 110amp sub panels in the apartments.

They cleaned up a bunch of stuff in the meantime and were there a while. It needed to be done.

New tenant had an outage recently. Electric stove burners, plus oven, plus tv were running but the individual breakers didn't trip which freaked me out. Then tenants admitted the space heater was going as well. It turns out the main shut-off for that apt is only 60amp (electrician check the operation) so that was the weakest chain in the system but it worked as it should. I've got a new stove on order just to be safe.

[Jagshund]

Originally Posted by rockfan4

There's 6 separate circuits in my kitchen. Got to love codes. Stove, Fridge, Dishwasher, Disposal, and two for other outlets, even though there's only two outlets on the back wall and two on the island.

Isn't there also supposed to be a separate circuit for a vent hood?


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[look 171]

Originally Posted by Bugsinrugs

Yes, gas range. This was the answer I was seeking. Thanks

Little power is needed to keep the oven light or the fan running if its a convection oven. It takes even less power to keep the piezo ignition, I call that the spark plug, to light the cook tops. Is it self cleaning? That may require big elec power. If gas, then there's no need to worry power. A regular plug is all it will need to safely operate that stove for years to come.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by Jagshund

Isn't there also supposed to be a separate circuit for a vent hood?


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Yep, it has a motor and its a build in appliance, so out this way in paradise, a savvy city inspector will bounce ya. I have never has one ever look at it closely or ask any questions. They come in and look at wiring, staples, and nail pate and and just go on their way.

When we do our kitchens, we pull 8-10 dedicated circuits. Some odd things like instant hot drinking water, microwave and such must have its own dedicated circuit.

[look 171]

Originally Posted by john70t

I'd gotten the rentals re-wired with a 20amp in the kitchen (blenders/micro), bathroom (hair drier), bedroom (space heaters/window AC), and living rooms. Separate legs for the big stuff. New 110amp sub panels in the apartments.

They cleaned up a bunch of stuff in the meantime and were there a while. It needed to be done.

New tenant had an outage recently. Electric stove burners, plus oven, plus tv were running but the individual breakers didn't trip which freaked me out. Then tenants admitted the space heater was going as well. It turns out the main shut-off for that apt is only 60amp (electrician check the operation) so that was the weakest chain in the system but it worked as it should. I've got a new stove on order just to be safe.

Even with 60 amps, it should be better and safer to have all those separate with different breakers, but if a load calc is performed, it might bounce due to the amount of curcuits. I would have changed that to a 100 amp or 200 out here since 100 amps is no longer allow in most cities as far as I know. we don't even try or think about 100 amp panels anymore.