Modern Porsches excel in the stoplight drags

[masraum]

https://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews/g35636294/quickest-cars-of-the-decade/
Article posted on R&T, but they say at the beginning that it's actually data from C&D.

Pretty interesting article if you're into stats. We (Porsche) has a bunch of cars in this list.

It is interesting that most (all) acceleration testing these days seems to include the 1 ft roll out.

What's interesting is that Tesla listed the time for the "plaid" with the rollout, but didn't seem to include the rollout for their lesser models, at least according to the engineering explained guy, which makes the plaid seem even faster by comparison.


Quickest Pickup: 2021 Ram TRX — 3.7 seconds

Quickest SUV: 2019 Lamborghini Urus — 3.1 seconds

7 2020 Chevrolet Corvette — 2.8 seconds (tie)
7 2019 Porsche 911 GT3 RS — 2.8 seconds (tie)

6 2015 Tesla Model S P90D — 2.7 seconds (tie)
6 2019 Ferrari 488 Pista — 2.7 seconds (tie)
6 2019 McLaren Senna — 2.7 seconds (tie)

5 2019 BMW M5 Competition — 2.6 seconds (tie)
5 2019 McLaren 720S Coupe — 2.6 seconds (tie)

4 2018 Porsche 911 GT2 RS — 2.5 seconds (tie)
4 2020 BMW M8 Competition – 2.5 seconds (tie)

3 2020 Porsche Taycan Turbo S – 2.4 seconds (tie)
3 2020 Tesla Model S Performance – 2.4 seconds (tie)
3 Bugatti Chiron Sport — 2.4 seconds (tie)

2 2018 Lamborghini Huracán Performante — 2.2 seconds (tie)
2 2021 Porsche 911 Turbo S— 2.2 seconds (tie)

1 2015 Porsche 918 Spyder — 2.1 seconds

[rusnak]

Well they did skip right over "ludicrous speed".

[svandamme]

It's so pointless. i mean, where can you even use that kind of 0-60 accell, its not safe on public roads, and on race tracks, you would have different kind of cars.

It's easy enough to improve that record, just put a flipping jato rocket in the back
I'm sure a light weight car will do 0-60 in 1 second with one of those

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by svandamme

It's so pointless. i mean, where can you even use that kind of 0-60 accell, its not safe on public roads, and on race tracks, you would have different kind of cars.

Reminds me of the cartoon 35 years ago where Bill Gates is entering a packed expressway with one of the few 959 Porsches in the USA. He's telling his passenger how fast the car is.

It is impressive what engineers have done, though.

[aschen]

too fast for the street too nice for the race track for most of those cars. Built for coffee and cars and Instagram

I am not even intrigued by the thought of owning a modern high hp car anymore. Base model cayman or even new gt86 twins seem more compelling every day.

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by svandamme

It's so pointless. i mean, where can you even use that kind of 0-60 accell, its not safe on public roads, and on race tracks, you would have different kind of cars.

It's easy enough to improve that record, just put a flipping jato rocket in the back
I'm sure a light weight car will do 0-60 in 1 second with one of those

It is almost al bragging rights, and advertising headlines. However we all KNOW it is fun to blast through the acceleration curve and feel the engine "come on cam" and get onto a freeway merge and join the traffic flow.

I live a few miles from I-35 and I-44 interchange. The actual speed limit in city limits along there is 70. There are more than a few on ramps in the area that are mostly traffic free. It is part of my test loop and where I take family and friends on a ride. My 911 is a slug compared to all the cars on that list, but some of the on-ramps we have have a nice curve right in the middle of the on-ramp. Getting up to 70 does not take long, and I can merge in with the traffic easily. And traffic is usually rolling along at 75 or so. For the average passenger that has never been in a sports car in a curve it is pretty exciting. I can't imagine the fun of doing it in a truly fast car.

[David]

We bought a new base Panamera last year to replace our Cayenne Turbo. I was really torn about buying a new base vs used turbo and finally decided to buy new base with all the options we wanted. 0-60 in the base is about 5 seconds. I remember when 5 seconds was supercar territory but I constantly see folks on the Panamera sites telling other potential buyers how disappointed they'll be if they don't get the turbo! To me, the base is plenty fast on the street plus it's the lightest model.

[GH85Carrera]

We got the same input about my wife's Macan. The base model is a 0-60 time of just under 6 seconds. That is way more than enough to get onto any freeway with ease.

She was on a two lane road with one of her friends when they came up behind a slow moving pickup pulling a trailer. He waved them on to pass and she punched it. They passed the pickup in short order and her friend looked at her speedometer and the were just under 80 and it happened quickly. 99% of the time she just putts around and she gets way better gas mileage than her previous Infinity G-35x. Her base Macan is the perfect vehicle for her. I really can't imagine why anyone needs a faster car for daily errand running.

[svandamme]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

It is almost al bragging rights, and advertising headlines. However we all KNOW it is fun to blast through the acceleration curve and feel the engine "come on cam" and get onto a freeway merge and join the traffic flow.

I live a few miles from I-35 and I-44 interchange. The actual speed limit in city limits along there is 70. There are more than a few on ramps in the area that are mostly traffic free. It is part of my test loop and where I take family and friends on a ride. My 911 is a slug compared to all the cars on that list, but some of the on-ramps we have have a nice curve right in the middle of the on-ramp. Getting up to 70 does not take long, and I can merge in with the traffic easily. And traffic is usually rolling along at 75 or so. For the average passenger that has never been in a sports car in a curve it is pretty exciting. I can't imagine the fun of doing it in a truly fast car.

Well yeah, same with my cayman, i constantly get idjuts in chiptuned TSI turbo modern audis and what not.. they can make easy power and torque with just the boost and then wanna test their metal on a Porsche cayman, woop ti doo
I wasn't even racing them, but they are all happy bout beating a Porsche.

But any time it'rains, you see em petering around all scared that their boost will come up and kill em ded.

I'll take my NA 245 horses thankyouvery much.. it's good fun to scoot around, I don't have to worry about the car trying to kill me with excess power and sudden loss of traction .. and mid engine, it really hasn't got any nasty vices in the handling department.. oversteer, back off the throttle and it falls back in line..
And my 0 to 60, It should be around 6.1 secs, but i doubt I've ever pulled sub 7.. I value my clutch, tires and mechanical parts more then whatever it is a 0-60 max pull can do in terms of enjoyment..

[Deschodt]

Really not my thing, but the Porsches excel at going into launch control super easily and fast..
To do the max time in a tesla you need 5 min of prep work, it's silly... I did Porsche experience a few times, (my car5 doesn't have pdk so I had no idea), it's like brake, gas, wait a couple seconds, boom.

[svandamme]

I suspect The Tesla is not the launch control taking the time, but the ludicrious mode requires battery warm up and that takes more time..

where as the Taycay just defaults in the right mode?

[Noah930]

Originally Posted by svandamme

It's so pointless. i mean, where can you even use that kind of 0-60 accell, its not safe on public roads, and on race tracks, you would have different kind of cars.

Any of the onramps for the 110 between Dodger Stadium and Pasadena?

[svandamme]

lol, I know some short onramps too, but you are typically not at 0 when you enter the on-ramp
You'de already be in 2nd gear and at least 20-30mph right?

It helps to have good acceleration, for safety even, I'll readily agree to that.
But any car that can do a 0-60 in sub 8 seconds typically will have enough to get around and out of trouble just fine.
Anything sub 5 secs is no longer adding to that and it's just bragging rights and marketing.

[GH85Carrera]

Many on ramps in California have a red light when traffic is heavy. It turns green when there is an opening. And do not dawdle, a slow car will have a hard time.

Here we have on-ramps that have really fun curves for the 911, but not so much fun in the Elky. In the Elky, I have to hit the corner hard, and floor it to get to 70 by the end of the on-ramp. If it was a slower car it would be a challenge some days.

Heck, if the 911 is cold, I will not rev it above 4,000 RPM. That is just enough to merge in safely. If it is warm, red line is lots more fun. I hit 6,200 RPM all the time in it.

[svandamme]

they have those in NL as well, but they only work when there is congestion, and then well, the traffic isn't even doing 60mph.. But again, I doubt the difference between 8 or 5 or 3 seconds in the 0-60 launch is what makes the difference between a safe or hairy merge...
I'm pretty sure in both your examples.. any 0-60 < 10 secs will suffice

[Noah930]

Originally Posted by svandamme

lol, I know some short onramps too, but you are typically not at 0 when you enter the on-ramp
You'de already be in 2nd gear and at least 20-30mph right?

For most short on-ramps, you're right. But there's a stretch of the Pasadena Freeway that seems to have been engineered for a slower pace of life. It seems that a lot of the on-ramps are literally a stop sign, followed by a tight 90-degree turn (like you'd have at a ticket booth in a parking garage), and then about 15-20 yards before the on-ramp abruptly merges onto the freeway. (I tried to find a pic of that on the internet, but wasn't successful in my 30-second search.) Not an issue if it's rush hour traffic and nobody's moving anyway, but at other times when traffic in the slow lane is whistling along at 50-60 mph it's slightly ridiculous.

[ben parrish]

Originally Posted by David

We bought a new base Panamera last year to replace our Cayenne Turbo. I was really torn about buying a new base vs used turbo and finally decided to buy new base with all the options we wanted. 0-60 in the base is about 5 seconds. I remember when 5 seconds was supercar territory but I constantly see folks on the Panamera sites telling other potential buyers how disappointed they'll be if they don't get the turbo! To me, the base is plenty fast on the street plus it's the lightest model.

Yes, but I sure am enjoying the Turbo Cayenne I purchased from you. I’ve gotten used to the power and generally drive very conservatively….but….it makes me giggle when I go to pass someone or on those moments when I can’t help myself from a stop.

[PorscheGAL]

That article is a year old and Tesla had not released the Plaid at that point.

As a general rule, I get on the interstate with the traffic going 80mph+. I use every bit of my Tesla Plaid's 1000+hp to get in where ever I want with it's 0-60 at 1.9sec.

Not to mention, it's fun as Hell to take off on an on ramp to drive any car whose 0-60 time is less than 3 seconds.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by ben parrish

Yes, but I sure am enjoying the Turbo Cayenne I purchased from you. I’ve gotten used to the power and generally drive very conservatively….but….it makes me giggle when I go to pass someone or on those moments when I can’t help myself from a stop.

I got an email from Porsche a while back where they were announcing their most powerful Cayenne yet, 630hp. Are you sure you don't need an upgrade?

[David]

Originally Posted by ben parrish

Yes, but I sure am enjoying the Turbo Cayenne I purchased from you. I’ve gotten used to the power and generally drive very conservatively….but….it makes me giggle when I go to pass someone or on those moments when I can’t help myself from a stop.

Glad to hear you’re enjoying it. The Cayenne definitely has more utility than the Panamera but I was able to fit the extra set of Cayenne off-road wheels and tires into the Panamera with about an 1/8” to spare when I sold them. The Panamera does put a big smile on face in the turns tho and the RWD is much more fun for letting the rear slide out a bit.