My point was these officials exert pressure on the providers to do their bidding. It appears right now that the officials have strong pressure to vaccinate rather than to provide early care.

If my kid were obese, and deficient in vitamin D and zinc, I would get him vaxxed.

That seems reasonable.

I implore my kids to NOT vaccinate their very healthy kids. They think I’m a kook and sometimes I agree with them, though.

I'm 62, double vaxxed with Moderna, no booster. I had Omicron, stuffy head, mild fever. My son who's 30 had an easier time, better in 2 days. My Granddaughter 8 y.o. had it, mild fever for 2 days.

Two things. One, booster probably won't make a difference, this is a mild strain. Two, it seems that we are coming into a SHTF moment with those who have been issuing guidance on this virus and it seems they haven't been as honest with their information as we were led to believe.

I'd do a 90 day pause, Omicron will have long ago left town by then.

A healthy 14 year old? No.

Another vote for no: the booster does not prevent from getting or transmitting omicron, and omicron is a very mild cold for the vast majority of people, especially the young.

1. Health care professionals that are familiar with the health status of the patient.

2. One of my closest friends from college. Like a sister. 20+ years vaccine clinical study expert, most recently at C-suite level focusing on flu-type vaccines. Has a "close relative by marriage" that is a C-Suite exec at a company that has developed a vaccine for Covid 19. That vaccine is going to be helpful globally very soon.

No secrets.

My bet is that when all is said and done, the safety and efficacy work for nearly all vaccines, including this new one, in the US and most countries, will hold up nicely. I think it is already the case that more people in the vax space worldwide will have contributed to "success" in this global situation than at any prior time in human history.

3. I have worked extensively on safety and efficacy proof on the commercial side on and off for 40 years. I have worked on trials and submissions, and have attended FDA advisory panel sessions. So I know how all encompassing the regulatory activities are in the general medical/healthcare space. It would make most uninitiated businesspersons weep.

So for me there would not be any question, unless there was a showstopper on my #1.

I don't understand your question. This is actual data from a very controlled population of about 6000 individuals. Zero opinion - just facts. That's how we roll here.

So is that a yes or a no? Vax the kid or not?

Just had our 15 year old daughter boosted. She was eager to get it done too. Severe infection rate of boosted people is less than non-boosted, plus she sucks at wearing masks, so our thinking is anything that helps prevent her from getting Covid, or a even a mild case of Covid is a win for her and anyone around her.

"So for me there would not be any question, unless there was a showstopper on my #1. "

See posts 27 and 29.

The boosters out right now do nothing to protect against Omicron.

Little protection against infection. Significant protection against serious disease.

My understanding is it may mitigate symptoms for the most vulnerable (aged, comobidities and immunocompromised). For a healthy teenager, the symptoms are usually mild anyway.

In addition, since so many people are asymptomatic, who really knows who has or has not been infected and has antibodies?

Also, since it has not been possible to study long-term effects, if any, why risk it for a healthy kid?

Finally, treatments have come a long way, even for serious cases, especially in young, healthy people.

I don't recommend getting advice from anyone on this board, myself included.

See your family physician. If one has no confidence in their family physician then I don't know why you would ever use rhem in the future and would look for one that I trust with my life.

I agree.

Look, I ran all the numbers, understand all the risks associated with getting vax'ed and, in my case, not getting vax'ed. The numbers skew to not getting vax'ed at certain ages and health status.

Long story but my doctor recommended against it given my vax history.

My children are adults...both, in their 20's and in remarkable shape, have not been vax'ed and I had zero to do with THEIR decision. My wife has been vaxed. Again, not my call.

Concerning your child? Run the numbers, seek a pro vax advisor and a neutral vax advisor. Run the numbers again, the consequences of each path.

Tough call, one I am happy I do not have to make. I wish you the best.

I would not. At his age, his risk is near zero.

He’d be better off if you focused on boosting his immune system. I would encourage everyone to get their blood work done, see where they are and act accordingly. Pay particular attention to your vitamin D levels.

Well the irony is thick. Just got a call from mrs bivenator. She's in bed with slight fever, headache and fatigue. j It was just last night that our conversation turned on how unusual it was that we hadn't been infected given she is a teacher and I am in healthcare. Spoke too soon.

Hell no don't get him boosted.

I agree with this completely.