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Bob Kontak 01-21-2022 05:00 AM

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a30637/ferrari-xx-factory-myth/

sc_rufctr 01-21-2022 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 11583566)

Thanks for the link. That clears things up but your still can't drive it on the road. (I don't think I'd want to anyway)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1642774193.jpg

p911dad 01-21-2022 06:15 AM

This guy is definitely nuts. I have seen the results of an estimated 300 mph crash long ago. A pilot flying a Beech Baron on a check run from Buffalo to NYC one night and somehow fell asleep or was otherwise incapacitated and made what was likely a shallow dive onto the hilltop behind our house. His speed was estimated from the wreckage to be in the neighborhood of 300mph. No fire. All that was left of him was a part of his spine and bits of the plane. As stoutly made as the Bugatti is I would expect a similar result if that idiot put it into something at that speed.

aschen 01-21-2022 06:34 AM

crazy contains the kinetic energy of around 600 .50 BMG rounds by my calculation

Bob Kontak 01-21-2022 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 11583591)
Thanks for the link. That clears things up but your still can't drive it on the road. (I don't think I'd want to anyway)

I'm not seeing a big difference between the myth and reality.

Imagine what would happen to you if you broke Ferrari's rules.

aschen 01-21-2022 02:04 PM

Thought experiment: You are in a chiron on an unrestricted relatively clear German freeway.

How fast is reasonable, er at least reasonable enough to avoid internet shaming? Somewhat less than 260mph and somewhat higher than 150mph but I have never found myself in such a predicament

stevej37 01-21-2022 02:20 PM

^^^ Just leave two minutes earlier....then you can drive with traffic and arrive the same time. :)

masraum 01-21-2022 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by aschen (Post 11584295)
Thought experiment: You are in a chiron on an unrestricted relatively clear German freeway.

How fast is reasonable, er at least reasonable enough to avoid internet shaming? Somewhat less than 260mph and somewhat higher than 150mph but I have never found myself in such a predicament

I get it, if there's a vehicle going 100mph, then you pass that vehicle going 260, that's 160mph differential, Yowza! I have to assume that most folks can't/wouldn't register that kind of speed differential.

Of course, driving on the autobahn in Germany is a little different than driving on pretty much any road anywhere in the US where you can have folks jump on a freeway with a 70mph speed limit, traffic going 75-80mph, and the guy that just jumped on the freeway is going 55mph and heads straight for the left lane at 55mph.

If a tire went at 260, it would probably be ugly.

I'm not going to vote, because there's a good chance that I'd eventually end up doing what the rich dude did.

A930Rocket 01-21-2022 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Macroni (Post 11583523)
watching the video of 417K made my heart start racing..... hard to believe how calm the car appeared....

This guys video really gives you the sense of speed.

I have miles of video of me driving my 930 at the track. I felt like I was driving on the edge. Every time I watched it on the tv when I got home, it look like I was putzing around the track.

I’ve never been to the autobahn, but at one time, didn’t everybody stay to the right and faster cars passed on the left? Watching the video, he passed everybody, and they were in the far right hand lane.

masraum 01-21-2022 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 11584393)
This guys video really gives you the sense of speed.

I have miles of video of me driving my 930 at the track. I felt like I was driving on the edge. Every time I watched it on the tv when I got home, it look like I was putzing around the track.

I’ve never been to the autobahn, but at one time, didn’t everybody stay to the right and faster cars passed on the left? Watching the video, he passed everybody, and they were in the far right hand lane.

Yes, video often doesn't seem as impressive as reality felt. I've noticed that before.

It's my understanding that yes, the whole "slower traffic keep right" and "left lane for passing only" is pretty strictly adhered to and enforced in Germany. But I've also not been there.

Joe Bob 02-01-2022 07:14 AM

Prosecutors in Germany are considering filing charges against a Czech real estate tycoon who posted a YouTube video showing him driving a Bugatti Chiron sports car at speeds reaching 259 mph on the Autobahn.

The German Transport Ministry issued a statement admonishing Radim Passer for the stunt after the video went viral in January. Police have now confirmed to The Sun that they have investigated the incident and sent the results to the prosecutor's office. A spokeswoman said it is being looked at as a possible "banned car race," which could carry a penalty of up to two years in jail.

While the stretch of road Passer was on was one of the unrestricted sections of the Autobahn that doesn't have a permanent posted speed limit, the ministry cited German law that states, "anyone participating in traffic must behave in such a way that no other person is harmed, endangered or obstructed or inconvenienced more than is unavoidable under the circumstances."

The $3 million Chiron is powered by a 1,500 hp 16-cylinder engine and has an electronically governed top speed of 261 mph, but is capable of breaking the 300 mph barrier. Passer wore a racing fire suit, but not a helmet, during his drive while a passenger in just a shirt and open leather jacket sat next to him.

https://www.foxnews.com/auto/tycoon-drove-bugatti-259-mph-german-autobahn-jail

David 02-01-2022 07:32 AM

I've gotten stuck in Germany twice when a connecting flight got missed/cancelled so I've been there but not really been there. My last time I took a $50 cab ride to go 7 miles to $550 a night hotel room with 2 twin beds and ate a mediocre schnitzel for $30. These dollars are really Euros. Fortunately Lufthansa paid for it all (a month later).

Any way: the over priced cab ride was with an immigrant driver who's driving skills would exceed 99% of the US populations' skill. He drove the correct speed (not too fast or too slow), in the correct lane, and was very aware of his surroundings.

The highlight of the night was sitting at an outside bar near a kink/turn on an average city street. Nothing special about the street or the turn but in the hour or so I sat there I watched numerous Porsche, Mercedes, and BMW's, many with what sounded like open exhausts go screaming through the turn. I also two motorcycle cops go through the turn with lights on and their inside knees only inches off the ground. I've never seen driving like that by such a large proportion of the population. Very cool!

I will try very hard to pick up a new Porsche in my lifetime and break it in on the streets of Germany.

jamesnmlaw 02-01-2022 08:03 AM

tiny wiener, over compensating for something
maybe he was trying to impress his passenger
nice racing suit
only thing missing was the another douche bag
eat the rich and take their stuff

masraum 02-01-2022 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jamesnmlaw (Post 11593721)
tiny wiener, over compensating for something
maybe he was trying to impress his passenger
nice racing suit
only thing missing was the another douche bag
eat the rich and take their stuff

You've never gone fast?

And technically, what he did was completely legal.

jamesnmlaw 02-01-2022 08:56 AM

Yes, I've driven fast. But nowhere near that fast on a public road. Re-watched the video and noticed that the cars he passed might be the cars in his group of friends at the end of the video sharing a prayer. Perhaps the driver was taking good precautions sweeping the road for norms. Perhaps I am a bit jealous. Didn't mean to offend. Would I ride in the passenger seat? No. Would I drive the Bugatti? Yes, maybe even that fast. Situations & circumstances.

Tobra 02-01-2022 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 11593676)
I will try very hard to pick up a new Porsche in my lifetime and break it in on the streets of Germany.

There is no try. Do it

ckissick 02-01-2022 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 11593676)

I will try very hard to pick up a new Porsche in my lifetime and break it in on the streets of Germany.

Way back in '86 my sister and her husband picked up a Porsche in Stuttgart and he drove it 450 miles in exactly 3 hours. He was a professional race car driver, so he had that going for him. After the Bugatti video, 150 mph doesn't seem like that big a deal. My sister said it felt very safe.

livi 02-02-2022 01:31 AM

What an utter and complete moron. No regard for other peoples life what so ever. Prison please.

Jims5543 02-02-2022 02:05 AM

I was thinking as I drove into the office this morning.

This millionaire is out living his life, I admit on the reckless side. I have no idea if he had spotters and took extra precautions. Yes, while technically legal, very reckless.

Then you have a millionaire like Howard Stern hiding in his basement in the Hampton's for 2 years screaming he wants everyone else to die.

I would rather be like the first guy.

masraum 02-02-2022 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by livi (Post 11594636)
What an utter and complete moron. No regard for other peoples life what so ever. Prison please.

But for what? He technically wasn't speeding.

I get what you're saying.

If you've got a road with no speed limit, I don't feel like you can say, "well, there's no limit, but there is if you go too fast."

That's like saying "you can go as fast as you want, but if you go over 200mph, we'll put you in jail."

Or is it 210? Or is it 225? Or 190? or....

If you're going to say "this was dangerous, so you can't do it." OK, why was it dangerous, because of the speed involved? If that's the case, and you want to put someone in jail for what would essentially be speeding, then a speed limit needs to be specified.

If someone can be prosecuted for going too fast where there's no speed limit, and the charge is essentially due to "you were going too fast" that is ripe for abuse.

I don't like <some person> because they are too rich, too <insert reason (color, ethnicity, religion, first name, long hair, etc...) here> so I'm going to say that their speed was dangerous so I can prosecute them.


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