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stevej37 01-25-2022 04:11 AM

another Mustang into the crowd yesterday...
 
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Chocaholic 01-25-2022 04:15 AM

Florida.

stevej37 01-25-2022 04:21 AM

^^^ Clark Road about a mile off of 75 in Sarasota
Very busy section of road.

slow&rusty 01-25-2022 04:21 AM

I witnessed this one, and the car came within a few feet of me and my Dad:

The driver came out, like he was cool...dumb a $ $

https://youtu.be/bk5TddBBmNg

stevej37 01-25-2022 04:24 AM

^^^ he almost took out three little kids.

herr_oberst 01-25-2022 05:00 AM

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tdw28210 01-25-2022 05:02 AM

As soon as you see people lining up along the exiting street, you know bad decisions will soon be made.

stevej37 01-25-2022 06:07 AM

It's almost as though the Mustang drivers have never floored their cars until they have a crowd watching.

asphaltgambler 01-25-2022 06:11 AM

Well....^^^^^^.......almost. They have to nail it before straightening the wheel which.........you know.

ted 01-25-2022 06:42 AM

Driver needs to be programed to lift.
Power oversteer make an 11 and leave.

911 Rod 01-25-2022 08:32 AM

Same thing I told my buddy with his new C8.
Straighten the f##ing steering wheel before you hammer it you idiot!

svandamme 01-25-2022 08:42 AM

If you look at the tree/crowd, you WILL hit it.

Look where you want to go, and your hands will automatically steer in the correct direction to avoid the tree/crowd
But ok, in a Stang, doesn't matter, it is a crowdpleaser that just wants to cuddle the crowd.

masraum 01-25-2022 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 11587966)
Same thing I told my buddy with his new C8.
Straighten the f##ing steering wheel before you hammer it you idiot!

Even then, some of these guys are going in a straight line, and when they punch it, the car starts fishtailing and gets away from them. A straight line is not always a guaranteed positive outcome.

svandamme 01-25-2022 08:49 AM

so would these guys be driving an auto or a manual?
I would think auto, and the torque convertor prevents fine control over the power delivery, and that catches em off?

stevej37 01-25-2022 08:53 AM

Auto with special order cars & coffee differential.

Steve Carlton 01-25-2022 08:59 AM

It’s a whole package. Steering gear, throttle tuning, rear steering, and differential.

speeder 01-25-2022 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11588007)
Auto with special order cars & coffee differential.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 11588023)
It’s a whole package. Steering gear, throttle tuning, rear steering, and differential.

The internet always wins. :D:D

svandamme 01-25-2022 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 11588023)
It’s a whole package. Steering gear, throttle tuning, rear steering, and differential.

don't forget the cupholders, it is after all cars and COFFEE , so that goes in the cupholder.. steering gear must be atuned to the offset weight and slushing liquid , else it goes wrong.

Keep the stangs cupholder free of coffee cup, no problem whatsoever.
You can put a pool cue in the car, fine, that's not a slushing liquid..

A930Rocket 01-25-2022 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slow&rusty (Post 11587690)
I witnessed this one, and the car came within a few feet of me and my Dad:

The driver came out, like he was cool...dumb a $ $

https://youtu.be/bk5TddBBmNg

Is this undercover popo waiting for mustangs to wreck? He was Johnny on the spot with something that looks like a badge?

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svandamme 01-25-2022 10:04 AM

that badge looks like the one I had as an 8 year old kid in a cops and robbers costume kit

matthewb0051 01-25-2022 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slow&rusty (Post 11587690)
I witnessed this one, and the car came within a few feet of me and my Dad:

The driver came out, like he was cool...dumb a $ $

https://youtu.be/bk5TddBBmNg

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11587693)
^^^ he almost took out three little kids.

What an idiot. Waving like he was some sort of dare devil and people paid money to see him.

I've gotta ask though, after seeing dozens if not hundreds of these vids and knowing this is what frequently occurs.... why are you sitting there with your kids on the ground. Moreover, why did it take until after the car had stopped that you grabbed them.

ted 01-25-2022 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 11587986)
If you look at the tree/crowd, you WILL hit it.

Look where you want to go, and your hands will automatically steer in the correct direction to avoid the tree/crowd

yes eye control and then there is the PCA mantra in a spin both feet in.
basically just steering wheel straight then do burn out.
no wiggling the wheel to make it looser.
weaving is for wankers.

masraum 01-25-2022 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ted (Post 11588135)
yes eye control and then there is the PCA mantra in a spin both feet in.
basically just steering wheel straight then do burn out.
no wiggling the wheel to make it looser.
weaving is for wankers.

I've seen and been in vehicles that were pointed in a straight line and started fishtailing when the wheels started spinning. I'm pretty sure that it's a normal, natural thing. I think it has to do with weight transfer and or the rear end setup. The problem then is that they HAVE to wiggle the wheel to keep the car going, and if they don't the fishtail gets away from them. I think that's what happens. Yes, it's even worse if they start spinning the tires before everything is pointed in a straight line (which is often the case), but that's not a sure fire solution to a burnout in a straight line.

doug_porsche 01-25-2022 10:59 AM

Reinforces my mantra I say when playing with my car on both street and track


Don't be a youtube video.
Don't be a youtube video

stevej37 01-25-2022 11:29 AM

The worst part is that in each of the above videos...the Mustang owner will prob walk away with just a ticket or less.

masraum 01-25-2022 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11588206)
The worst part is that in each of the above videos...the Mustang owner will prob walk away with just a ticket or less.

Seeing some of these, my gut reaction is "the crowd should now trash the car, busted windows, every panel dented, etc...." If that happened, it might be a deterent. But, I don't actually support vigilantism. And if you started having that sort of thing occur, you'd also have escalation in other ways which wouldn't be good.

Hopefully these folks get damage to their cars when they go off, get tickets (at least, impoundment would be even better), and it would be great if their insurance companies saw the videos and refused to repair the cars.

masraum 01-25-2022 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doug_porsche (Post 11588171)
Reinforces my mantra I say when playing with my car on both street and track


Don't be a youtube video.
Don't be a youtube video

hahah, good call!

p911dad 01-25-2022 04:22 PM

The Cars and Coffee in Charlotte is on its (at least) 4th venue because of those idiots. Property owners get reports of this behavior and pretty soon you are no longer welcome. The Mustang has been supplanted around here by the Dodge Challenger guys, maybe an even worse crew.

Skillet83 01-25-2022 04:33 PM

On a serious note, can someone explain to me how there cars go out of control? I mean, hit the gas, car slides a little, correct steering, smash into curb. WTF is happening here?

masraum 01-25-2022 05:44 PM

I don't understand the question.

What's happening is insufficient driving skill.

A930Rocket 01-25-2022 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11588535)
I don't understand the question.

What's happening is insufficient dicing skill.

What’s happening is, they run out of talent, or never had it to begin with.

speeder 01-25-2022 06:31 PM

They run out of talent when they climb out of bed in the morning.

Jeff Higgins 01-25-2022 06:52 PM

We have a cars and coffee in my area that is going into at least its 15th year, in the same location. How do they pull this off? They owe it to their "Goons", an army of friendly volunteers with radios, cell phones, and cameras in those cell phones. They have a very good relationship with the local police. They take note of, and keep a list of, the ass holes. Get on their list and you will never get in again. Screw up too bad, or behave badly enough, and they do not hesitate to forward all information, including video, to the police. Who actually will pursue it. Other cars and coffees in my area typically burn through three or four venues per year, because of "those" guys.

masraum 01-25-2022 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 11588565)
What’s happening is, they run out of talent, or never had it to begin with.

Quote:

Originally Posted by speeder (Post 11588580)
They run out of talent when they climb out of bed in the morning.

Exactly.

sc_rufctr 01-25-2022 07:22 PM

The driver in the OP is a freekin idiot... Zero control or skill! :eek:

pwd72s 01-25-2022 09:25 PM

Over a decade with the same mustang...yet to hit anybody.

I'll have to try harder.

Thank God that Porsche drivers never screw up.

speeder 01-25-2022 09:51 PM

Yeah, those Porsches are plowing into crowds after Cars and Coffee events all the time.

svandamme 01-25-2022 10:17 PM

weight on the rear axle helps, also helps that they are more expensive per hp to buy so the 400hp + ones tend to have people in them that are a bit more sensible.. and had to wait a long time driving less big hp cars so they learned to drive em well..exceptions do exist off course

stevej37 01-26-2022 03:01 AM

another reason for front-wheel drive!

masraum 01-26-2022 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 11588670)
weight on the rear axle helps, also helps that they are more expensive per hp to buy so the 400hp + ones tend to have people in them that are a bit more sensible.. and had to wait a long time driving less big hp cars so they learned to drive em well..exceptions do exist off course

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11588716)
another reason for front-wheel drive!

I had a coworker that bought one of the 500hp Alfa Romeos a few years back when they first came out. Before that the most powerful car he'd even had was a Honda Accord. He was meticulous about not doing anything crazy during the 1000 mile break-in. Once he hit the 1000 miles, he was at a stop sign waiting to turn right and thought "I'll punch it and see what happens." So he put it in "race" mode which turns off all of the nannies, and punched it. As you can imagine, he fishtailed, didn't counter-steer, and promptly drove it up and over a curb and hit a tree with a glancing blow. The repair place (local ferrari dealer) had the car for 6 months. I think it ended up costing the insurance co $45k. He was deathly afraid of the car after that. Hopefully, he still is.


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