How far behind are you on the IPhone?

[stomachmonkey]

Wife and daughter 2nd gen SE.

Me, 11 Pro

Son, 11 Pro Max

I do have a 12 for QA purposes and decided I could skip it for personal carry.

[PorscheGAL]

Originally Posted by island911

Your car requires a phone upgrade... - Wow!

I wonder how long until your phone requires a car upgrade.

I suppose this is not new. My wife had a MBz S-class that built-in phone was obsoleted by cell phones going digital. - ah, analog bands of the late 90's...

I use my phone as my key in the Tesla. The app, which controls everything, does have requirements for the phone so I imagine as the tech increases the need for a new phone may come up.

[vash]

Originally Posted by PorscheGAL

I use my phone as my key in the Tesla. The app, which controls everything, does have requirements for the phone so I imagine as the tech increases the need for a new phone may come up.

my wife was compelled to upgrade phones when our banking institution no longer worked with her old one.

my 8 still talks to our Tesla, so there is that.

[creaturecat]

7 here.
camera sucks, more-or-less.

[john70t]

Originally Posted by vash

my wife was compelled to upgrade phones when our banking institution no longer worked with her old one.

Mom's 8-10 started becoming unintelligible.
Both her iPhone and her iWatch.
It became pure electronic jumbled garbage. The old 4 bit lossy .mp3 sound quality from the 1980's was far better.

She started having to scream into both thinking that this was normal. Also the disconnects.
(Even I couldn't hear it)
So many important conversations were ruined.
If she was trying to call emergency services in a life-death situation...she would not be understood.

She thought buying a newer device version was the best action to take.

I thought a class action suit against Apple for sabotaging their own purchased products would be more appropriate.
Like a dealership going to homes and yanking caps and wires.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by john70t

Mom's 8-10 started becoming unintelligible.
Both her iPhone and her iWatch.
It became pure electronic jumbled garbage. The old 4 bit lossy .mp3 sound quality from the 1980's was far better.

She started having to scream into both thinking that this was normal. Also the disconnects.
(Even I couldn't hear it)
So many important conversations were ruined.
If she was trying to call emergency services in a life-death situation...she would not be understood.

She thought buying a newer device version was the best action to take.

I thought a class action suit against Apple for sabotaging their own purchased products would be more appropriate.
Like a dealership going to homes and yanking caps and wires.

But are they sabotaging, or like most computers, does the OS and things being asked of the hardware eventually outstrip the capabilities of the old hardware. The home page may look the same, but there are often so many new features that do run fine on the new hardware. So, folks with new hardware get whiz-bang new features and love them. Folks with old hardware have the opportunity to get the new whiz-bang features, but because they have old hardware, their stuff performance is going to suffer.

As the phone gets long in the tooth, why not just turn off automatic updates?

Also, there's often guides online of settings that can be changed and services that can be disabled that help an older phone run better. Often things like turning off background processing for certain apps that don't need it, turning off location services or having them only function when in the app, etc....

[JavaBrewer]

I tend to lag behind the bleeding edge in technology and buy 1-2 year used stuff instead. My daughter's version 8 phone finally died this week so rather than paying over $100 to repair the charging port I gave her my 8+ and picked up the newest 13 ProMax. Honestly I don't see much difference other than the home button is now gone so learning new swipes. The back of the phone is rather obnoxious with all the camera lenses. Have not taken any pictures with it but I believe it's rated pretty high in that regard.

[T77911S]

iPhone 11 for work.

personal phone is ollder but I forgot the password and now its locked

I hate the iPhone.
camera.
to turn on the flash you don't press the flash button. which I did about 100 times before figuring out that you press the ^ at the top of the screen, THEN you have to go down to the bottom and press the flash then turn it on. they needed a few more button presses to turn it on I think.
pressing the flash button ONLY turns it off.

photos.
they all stay in the "recents" album. they are copied into other albums instead of being moved.
I have pics I don't want anyone to see. my old phone has a"hidden" folder but the hidden folder is NOT hidden. at least on the 11 there is an option to hide the hidden folder.
but still. trying to maintain pics in different albums so that when you show someone a pic they don't run across a dirty pic....I have lost control of it. I cant keep up with what pics I have copied to another album.
oh, there is no way to look at the file name of a pic or arrange the order they are in.
on the android when you hid a pic it was gone.
oh, there is a "people and places" system folder. I don't want ANY pics in it but it keeps putting pics in there.

to add a new contact, like from texting or recents. you have to press about 4 buttons to finally get to where you add them.
I really think these software/phone designers love to press buttons just to take you to different screens

I like to be able to facetime on the iPhone.
I was in a meeting and facetimed a girl. she pulled down her pants to show me her thong.
gotta love it.

android was much easier to use and way more user friendly. it seemed to make more sense and give you more options.

my biggest hate for all phones is the forced updates.
they have updated my phone and EVERYTHING changed. colors, fonts, backgrounds.

[Z-man]

I had an XR and my wife had a 7 - we both upgraded this past weekend, since my wife was having issues with battery and power on the 7. She got the 13 mini, and I got the 13 - couldn't justify the extra $$ for a better camera lens setup (If I really want to take pictures, I can use my Nikon 3200 DSLR - older tech, but still must more versitile than any smart phone camera).

As for the phones - so far, so good. Migrating from the old to the new was relatively straightforward, except for my work portals.

[monoflo]

5S
Small and very functional--Had newer ones When I worked ..............

Tis my brides hand me down to me

[hcoles]

SE with lots of memory. Works fine but battery is now at 84% capacity. I like the small size as it fits (barely) in my bike bento box.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by T77911S

to turn on the flash you don't press the flash button.

hitting the flash icon on the top corner turns it on/off for me.

android was much easier to use and way more user friendly. it seemed to make more sense and give you more options.

I was a die hard Android guy (had the first couple of "google" phones G1, G2, and I think another HTC after. I did like Android. Android didn't seem quite as stable to me (probably due the diversity of the environment, so many different versions of hardware and so much software). And then some of the phones had a ton of bloat added by the manufacturer.

my biggest hate for all phones is the forced updates.
they have updated my phone and EVERYTHING changed. colors, fonts, backgrounds.

Forced updates?

turn this off

[Tim Hancock]

Last 3 phones have all been Motorola android... Current phone is a Motorola Moto z4. I love it.

Would not even know how to make a call on an i-phone. Also would not know how to even turn on a Mac computer.

I am a mechanical engineer.... not an artsy-fartsy type.

[john70t]

Originally Posted by masraum

But are they sabotaging, or like most computers,

My major complaint was that it stopped functioning like a basic phone, which could be a hazardous condition under some circustances.
The brand name of the product is "iPhone".

afaik no major FCC system changes have occurred.

Originally Posted by masraum

does the OS and things being asked of the hardware eventually outstrip the capabilities of the old hardware. The home page may look the same, but there are often so many new features

New feature additions were not part of the original contract.
These were forced.
They might as well add CRAY/SETI/Bticoin mining super-computing functionality, but that would still alter the original agreement.

It's as if new Ford Mustang owners found their performance remotely degraded from 460hp to 310hp and then the engine won't even start.

A fully functioning phone as advertised was originally bought and paid for.

Originally Posted by masraum

Also, there's often guides online of settings that can be changed and services that can be disabled that help an older phone run better. Often things like turning off background processing for certain apps that don't need it, turning off location services or having them only function when in the app, etc....

Those should all be "off" by default.
Those should all be "opt-in" by default with known defects disclosed and a clear choice to revert available.

[beepbeep]

Pro tip: you can replace batteries yourself and they usually cost around 15 bucks to purchase.

My (very old) iPhone 5 is still in use by my dad. I believe it is on its 4:th battery.
My old 8 Plus is used by my daughter. I also replaced the battery and screen myself (I accidentally drove over it!).
My son has my old 7...also with new battery.

Basically, old iPhones are fully usable as long as they are upgradeable to latest iOS and fitted with fresh battery.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by john70t

My major complaint was that it stopped functioning like a basic phone, which could be a hazardous condition under some circustances.
The brand name of the product is "iPhone".

Yes, that's bad. I've never had a phone, Apple, Android or otherwise do that. I can see that if someone is using a really phone, and the technologies used by 99.9% of carrier users have changed so that old phones won't work on the new systems, that's another issue, but I wouldn't think that would yet be impacting any iPhone. That's similar to folks that used to have C-band satellite TV being told "we aren't going to support that any more, you've got to upgrade to one of the new, little dishes," and that did happen.

New feature additions were not part of the original contract.
These were forced.
They might as well add CRAY/SETI/Bticoin mining super-computing functionality, but that would still alter the original agreement.

It's as if new Ford Mustang owners found their performance remotely degraded from 460hp to 310hp and then the engine won't even start.

A fully functioning phone as advertised was originally bought and paid for.

Those should all be "off" by default.
Those should all be "opt-in" by default with known defects disclosed and a clear choice to revert available.

Meh, these are more like mini-computers with phone functionality. These really aren't that much different than a PC running Windows or a Mac. Computers become unsupported and obsolete. It usually takes a REALLY long time (at least 5-10 years in my experience). My mom has been using dumb phones up until this past summer. She finally got her first iPhone because her previous flip phone literally fell apart. Electronics die and become obsolete, especially these days when almost everything has some sort of processor built in somewhere.

The other item to remember is that you don't really own it all. You had to agree to an EULA to setup the phone, and, I'm pretty sure, the EULA doesn't say "you own everything and it'll work forever."

It's also completely possible that changes to the carrier network caused the issue (vs the phone being the cause).

[ramonesfreak]

I have 10Xs

I keep my old iPhones to use as music streamers and I think the 7 is still my favorite. Feels so perfect in hand and pocket but battery won’t hold a charge so I just keep it plugged in while streaming tunes

[syncroid]

13 Pro Max here for the wife and I. Why? We were eligible for an upgrade from Verizon. Last phone was a 10X. I love the battery life and camera on this new phone! One of my customer's came in the other day and he still uses an iPhone 4s.

[dw1]

I'm still using my ultra-reliable 64GB iPhone6. Yes 6.

Last year I got my wife a 12 (she likes the larger screen and some of the shopping rebate apps need the newer o/s) but I saw no reason to update my 6.

Sure there are a few apps I can't run on my phone because they need iOS 13 or later, but I really only use it for voice, text, e-mail and a few other things that still run fine. If I need more, I go to one of the many PC's we have around the house, and I have several good cameras if I have the need to take photos.

Truth be told, I have started thinking about getting an SE....eventually.

[john70t]

Originally Posted by masraum

My mom has been using dumb phones up until this past summer. She finally got her first iPhone because her previous flip phone literally fell apart. Electronics die and become obsolete, especially these days when almost everything has some sort of processor built in somewhere.

I will stick to my first complaint for the record.
A phone which stops functioning because the manufacturer changed something is no excuse.
Gordian Knot.

The Apple watch however is completely useless to old people except for the accelerometer which caught her fall injury at home.
One single app.
That alone was worth the price......

There were other similar wearable devices, but iWatch was the only one with the bling which worked everywhere using telephony instead of local bluetooth.

It's too bad a hundred tiny crap appppppppppp buttons fill the screen and makes that watch otherwise unusable.

When phone calls became scrambled garbage the entire system (both watch and phone) becomes unusable.
Gordian Knot.