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McLovin 02-28-2022 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 11621586)
We are absolute nazi's about who we will rent to, and will leave the property empty rather than rent it to fill the void. We don't advertise. You have to come to use through a referral. Don't need the BS.

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 11621715)
Left it empty since. Less headache if you ask me. Its still empty.


Yep. Just as common sense would dictate. When your rights under your lease are evicerated by the government, you can no longer take any chances on anyone.
Which is why all of these rules (rent control, loss of eviction rights, etc) crush the lower income, marginalized potential tenants (who tend to be people of color disproportionately).
In other words, the very people all of these rules are supposed to “protect” end up paying the price. (Pretty common with most of our policies these days).
It also creates less housing supply. Thus driving up rents. And creating more homelessness.
In addition to being “racist.”

McLovin 02-28-2022 08:45 PM

For some reason, politicians seem to believe housing providers are in the business of evicting good tenants. As if that’s the business model.

gregpark 02-28-2022 09:31 PM

Here's an only on California story for you. My good friend I grew up with (known each other for 60 years) is a contractor like me. A talented and successful guy. He has several rentals but one is a very nice apartment he built for his mother who recently past away. It's above his own detached garage. Since it's so close to home he and his wife wanted to be picky about who lives there. They ran an ad stating beautiful, private, water view, blah blah unit available to single professional with no pets. The first week of the ad they were visited by the authorities that be. You can say no pets but can't say single or professional. That's discrimination. You owe a $12,000. fine. He asked if he could just change the ad. Nope. The fine is due and payable now but can be reduced to $9,000 if both attend a week long anti discrimination class. They went for an hour every night to get woked and save 3 grand.

look 171 02-28-2022 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gregpark (Post 11621759)
Here's an only on California story for you. My good friend I grew up with (known each other for 60 years) is a contractor like me. A talented and successful guy. He has several rentals but one is a very nice apartment he built for his mother who recently past away. It's above his own detached garage. Since it's so close to home he and his wife wanted to be picky about who lives there. They ran an ad stating beautiful, private, water view, blah blah unit available to single professional with no pets. The first week of the ad they were visited by the authorities that be. You can say no pets but can't say single or professional. That's discrimination. You owe a $12,000. fine. He asked if he could just change the ad. Nope. The fine is due and payable now but can be reduced to $9,000 if both attend a week long anti discrimination class. They went for an hour every night to get woked and save 3 grand.

I got one better and I am not trying to top you.

My friend owns a 16 unit apt and kids were playing ball in the parking area and the ball happened to fall on one of the tenant's car with the mark of a ball, and no scratch. Tenant wanted my friend, or course apt owners are responsible for everything else. He told them to go pound sand and the parking area isn't enclosed or gated. He has a letter written to all tenants stating that parking area isn't a play ground and children are not to play ball or hang around the parking because its dangerous to drivers as well as children. Lawyers were involved after a week. Everyone in the complex sued him and won in court and was awarded 8000 per unit. That's 120k plus. he lost the case in working discriminating against children.

I bought a small building about 8 years ago near USC along with all tenants. One of the tenants living there, his mother owned the place at one time. He was way under market rent at 800 / month while rent is 2000at market rate. Because of rent control, I couldn't get rid of him. He smoked pot with friends every weekends (pot was not legal then), drove all others crazy. Refused to sign new least so I waited him out and got rid of him eventually based on having no least. He turned round and sued me for 7600 bucks claiming the grass was cut one inch too long to his satisfaction. He pro rated it. After talking to some close friends who are long time rental owners, the all suggest I pay him off and send him on his way, to hell. Still, he stiffed me three months rent. Thinking about that now, I am glad I am able to pay him off so he can go. Cheaper and easier in the long run. Yep, only in this ****ty pro tenant town.

look 171 02-28-2022 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by McLovin (Post 11621722)
Yep. Just as common sense would dictate. When your rights under your lease are evicerated by the government, you can no longer take any chances on anyone.
Which is why all of these rules (rent control, loss of eviction rights, etc) crush the lower income, marginalized potential tenants (who tend to be people of color disproportionately).
In other words, the very people all of these rules are supposed to “protect” end up paying the price. (Pretty common with most of our policies these days).
It also creates less housing supply. Thus driving up rents. And creating more homelessness.
In addition to being “racist.”

They will come up with what ever flavor of the month on biases for those who worked hard and have something. Homelessness make up a very very small percentage of people who can't afford rent. Most are druggies, drunk, and head cases and to top it off, young too. Many of the younger dudes are simply lazy and have no real drive to just hold a simple job.

Here the latest proposal. If units or homes are left empty, they want to pass laws to fine or tax owners for leaving it empty due to lack of rental and affordable housing. They made a bunch of noise for commercial properties during the first year of covid. These politician are not here to help in anyway, they are here to destroy the upper / middle class so they can pocket all the money or gain votes. How the fook do you tax business during a pandemic where store fronts are empty due to lack of business, many folding, with people forced to stay home and yet, they have the balls to propose a tax or fine on empty units?

look 171 02-28-2022 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by McLovin (Post 11621528)
June 2023, based on Covid. That’s insane.
They’re not even trying to hide the theft anymore or make it even remotely related to Covid, science or facts.

You aren't in CA are ya?

Yeah, no kidding. There aren't much we can do. Most of the voters are bottom feeders and the left is great at spending someone else's money. They keep the thrives in office and in power.

svandamme 03-01-2022 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sduser (Post 11621347)
Sold my rental to a bank for market value, they had the sheriff evict the tenants with in 72 hours of recording the sale. Not really sure how they were able to do it, but it worked and I only lost one month of rents. Purchased a higher value rental with a monthly 2x the previous. It would seem that those who can afford the higher rental rate also care about their credit rating and have not miss a payment in 18 months.

you can get in just as much trouble with higher rentals, it's just that there may be less chance of getting a bad one.. But when you do, he/she just is much worse to get rid off and the losses are much bigger. Folks who live the life, and only pay one thing : their own lawyer for one thing : fighting every bill ...

masraum 03-01-2022 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 11621786)
They will come up with what ever flavor of the month on biases for those who worked hard and have something. Homelessness make up a very very small percentage of people who can't afford rent. Most are druggies, drunk, and head cases and to top it off, young too. Many of the younger dudes are simply lazy and have no real drive to just hold a simple job.

Here the latest proposal. If units or homes are left empty, they want to pass laws to fine or tax owners for leaving it empty due to lack of rental and affordable housing. They made a bunch of noise for commercial properties during the first year of covid. These politician are not here to help in anyway, they are here to destroy the upper / middle class so they can pocket all the money or gain votes. How the fook do you tax business during a pandemic where store fronts are empty due to lack of business, many folding, with people forced to stay home and yet, they have the balls to propose a tax or fine on empty units?

Sounds like it's time to sell any property that you don't live in. I've been to Cali several times to several locations (Orange Co, LA, San Jose, San Fran, etc...). It's a really beautiful place with fantastic weather. I can see how you'd consider it paradise. But I don't think there's any way that I could live there, at least not the crazy places. I guess I've heard that there are smaller towns or maybe stuff in the west part of the state that's more reasonable, but I think the west part of the state is not as idyllic as the coast.

Nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there unless I was so rich that I could pay lawyers to navigate all of the BS and isolate myself from the BS.

matthewb0051 03-01-2022 08:10 AM

This problem isn't isolated to just ****ty people. Or maybe it is.

A good friend (Army officer) rented his family home in Northern NY to another Army officer (who just happened to be in the JAG Corps). Friend's wife starts relaying stories of issues with the renters to my wife. Ultimately, friend calls me after several issue to include non-payment of rent.

I knew the renter's boss (a Colonel, who is a good dude), so I told friend to drop him an email (as they were the same rank) and just ask the boss to apply a little assistance to the young Captain in paying his just debts.

Ultimately, the poo head renter/Captain ended up in court with landlord (my friend) over eviction and payment. The little **** said something like my friend had created a hostile work environment by contacting his boss. Edit: needless to say I wanted to put a boot up his behind since he deserved it and as Toby Keith says, It is the American way.

Stupid little poo head renter failed to realize that not paying debts is a violation of Articles 133 and 134 of the UCMJ. I don't think adverse action was ever taken but I'm fairly certain he is no longer in the Army either.

Sometimes my faith in humanity is on the low side.

Rick Lee 03-01-2022 09:25 AM

Could not pay me anything in the world to be a landlord (again). I run in-home appts, usually up to 10-12x per week. The filth and squalor I see are unbelievable. Most are Section 8 people too. They are almost all judgment-proof and would be the same even in a landlord-friendly state.

matthewb0051 03-01-2022 11:53 AM

So I checked in with another friend regarding the story I posted in #28.

Turns out the poo head dead beat non rent payer is no longer in the Army but got a civilian job in the Pentagon.

That's what happens when no one is held accountable for their actions.

craigster59 03-01-2022 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by matthewb0051 (Post 11622377)
So I checked in with another friend regarding the story I posted in #28.

Turns out the poo head dead beat non rent payer is no longer in the Army but got a civilian job in the Pentagon.

That's what happens when no one is held accountable for their actions.

I was under the impression that bankruptcy or even a bad credit rating would effect any government security clearances?

speeder 03-01-2022 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by fastfredracing (Post 11620863)
Wed morning at 8:45. Over a year with zero rents paid. I paid 2 water bills for them also, to keep the property from getting liens. Over 2k .
Last time I looked into the house, it made my stomach curl, disgusting pigs for humans . The neighbors recently called and complained about rats, because these people put garbage on their front porch . Its not going to be a fun clean up .
Last eviction, I won at the magistrate but they got free legal counsel and made me go long and get a lawyer . Another 2500, and 2 months .
She is complaining about an outlet that does not work in the living room, and thinks she will win the eviction hearing because I failed to fix it . They were 7 months behind when they messaged me about the outlet, and despite Covid lockdowns, I dispatched an electrical contractor to their house after calling several companies with no call backs .
They refused to do the work due to the condition of the basement and house.
Getting closer to not being a landlord every day . Lovin it .
My government totally put the screws to me , and I will remember this at every turn for the rest of my life.

As. much as I feel for you, htf do you get people this awful and rent to them? :confused:

There is no way on earth that someone like this has good credit, much less a rental history that is satisfactory. Do you not screen people at all? That would be a problem.

matthewb0051 03-01-2022 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by craigster59 (Post 11622392)
I was under the impression that bankruptcy or even a bad credit rating would effect any government security clearances?

His is probably only Secret. So not as big a deal and IIRC they only do a NCIC check. Could be wrong though but it still isn't as big a deal as TS.

They actually do interviews with references for TS. I've totally dimed out a guy that listed me as reference for TS. And I know another person that did the same on a guy that listed her and didn't bother to ask first.

fastfredracing 03-01-2022 01:09 PM

Lower rent units in the city in not so great areas . These people were alright, paid cash mostly on time for the first year . Things were going good, we renewed their lease. Covid hit,she managed an Applebees , and he cleaned floors at night . 3 months into the pandemic, they were mostly unemployed, and the TV told them they did not have to pay rents, then the money stops coming .
Not a damn thing I can do about it either .

Por_sha911 03-01-2022 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by matthewb0051 (Post 11622438)
I've totally dimed out a guy that listed me as reference for TS.

I've been told you can be sued for defamation of character or some such stupidity like that. Most employers won't say anything about ex-employees for fear of being sued.

matthewb0051 03-01-2022 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Por_sha911 (Post 11622667)
I've been told you can be sued for defamation of character or some such stupidity like that. Most employers won't say anything about ex-employees for fear of being sued.

Not sure if that applies to Government clearances. In my case and the other one I mentioned, we were asked questions about the person's integrity and character (and a few more things I don't recall). Unfortunately for the individuals involved, the truth was an unpleasant reality.

I know at least for me I gave truthful answers to the questions that were asked and since the answers went to the heart of whether I would recommend the guy for TS clearance I don't think it exposed me to any liability. I just wasn't willing to do the typical; sure he is a great guy and I would recommend him for anything. He was not...

McLovin 03-01-2022 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 11622421)
As. much as I feel for you, htf do you get people this awful and rent to them? :confused:

There is no way on earth that someone like this has good credit, much less a rental history that is satisfactory. Do you not screen people at all? That would be a problem.

It depends on the area you’re in.
In most C class housing, if you’re going to insist on good credit or a rental history, you’re going to have a lot of vacant units.
A lot of the tenants in many parts of the city you live in, for example, don’t even have a checking account, much less a credit score.

McLovin 03-01-2022 08:43 PM

But those also can be very hard working, fair minded, honorable people who aren’t interested in working the system and wouldn’t think of screwing someone who gave them a chance and a place to live.

McLovin 03-01-2022 08:46 PM

Meanwhile I have known people who have had squatter tenants literally for years in their $8,000/month rental houses. One such tenant was a “Hollywood producer.” High flyers who finally run into trouble and abuse the system with $2500 bogus serial bankruptcy filings to stall evictions, delay tactics in unlawful detainer actions, etc. etc.
So ya never know.


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