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svandamme 04-14-2022 05:13 AM

yeah nah, no such thing.
Turbos was Canam 917/30
And I don't think they had cockpit boost control either ..

Also.. By the time of the 917...pretty sure the Mulsanne straight most definately had armco all the way, they did in 1969
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=255156022351768

URY914 04-14-2022 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11665152)
They did not run a boosted 917 at Le Mans…

You must have read that somewhere.

I'm sure every fun fact about the 917 has been written 50 times in books. We all bought the books. Now no one wants them.

javadog 04-14-2022 05:16 AM

And Interseries races…

javadog 04-14-2022 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 11665156)
You must have read that somewhere.

I'm sure every fun fact about the 917 has been written 50 times in books. We all bought the books. Now no one wants them.

Actually, people do still want the books. I sold off my library some years ago and books specific to the 917 brought a lot of money.

Not everything it was written down in the books. There were still a few stories better told in person by listening to guys like Vic Elford or Brian Redman or Derek Bell, etc.

masraum 04-14-2022 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 11665124)
pie ech

why er seems right to me, he says weer or wier

Just FYI, native English speakers would pronounce "pie" like the Greek "π" not "pee."

AKA meat pie, apple pie, etc...

But I'm fairly certain you intended it to sound like a long e sound like "pee" since I'm also fairly certain you've got a much better grip on German language and pronunciation than I do.
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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11665127)
Wyer is pronounced like a two syllable version of wire. “Y er”

Piech is closer to “pee eck”

Thanks

svandamme 04-14-2022 05:22 AM

yeah, your right :D pee eck

ie in flemish sounds liee ee in english hence the mixup

HobieMarty 04-14-2022 05:22 AM

Yeah, I am just an admirer of the car and the success that Porsche had with the 917 and later the 962, but I really don't know much about the details of either of those historic race cars. I don't like it when facts get twisted around either and find it to be irritating and definitely did not know that the guy in the video was getting some things wrong. I thought it was pretty cool to hear the history of a very cool car. Anyhoo...

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masraum 04-14-2022 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11665152)
They did not run a boosted 917 at Le Mans…

That's what I was thinking as I read that. I thought the 917 at Le Mans were naturally aspirated 4.9 or 5.4L. I didn't think turbos were added until they ran in Can-Am.

masraum 04-14-2022 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 11665156)
You must have read that somewhere.

I'm sure every fun fact about the 917 has been written 50 times in books. We all bought the books. Now no one wants them.

If you've got any good 917 books that you don't want, I'll take 'em. :D

javadog 04-14-2022 05:26 AM

There’s some really good books about the 917 out there, they’re more expensive than they used to be but are worth picking up.

Lots of videos on YouTube, also. Interviews from the drivers of the era, or guys like John Horseman. Gulf Oil produced quite a few videos of the J W Automotive Racing efforts.

If they ever have another Rennsport reunion, that would be a good place to find some of these older guys.

svandamme 04-14-2022 05:28 AM

tho they are dropping like flies , most are 75-80 by now.
I lucked out that I got to shake Hans Mezger's hand and talk to him in the Museum, back in 2018
after sound night, winding down.. was in the museum bar having a coffee and noticed him standing at the next table alone..
short, lean older gent. didn't look as old as he was, but he was most friendly, asked him if he knew Grady, but didn't ring a bell , my crappy german didn't help either.

I finally managed to score a copy of his book last year, Porsche and Me.. it's rare as hens teeth in english language .. only ones I find are a grand asking price..(german one isn't, that's 30 bucks)
But it really is a good read, ittells stories no other book has. Straight from the source.

URY914 04-14-2022 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11665164)
Actually, people do still want the books. I sold off my library some years ago and books specific to the 917 brought a lot of money.

Not everything it was written down in the books. There were still a few stories better told in person by listening to guys like Vic Elford or Brian Redman or Derek Bell, etc.

I got the Peter Hinsdale 917 book for Christmas in 1973. 1st Edition. Anyone want it?



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javadog 04-14-2022 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11665175)
That's what I was thinking as I read that. I thought the 917 at Le Mans were naturally aspirated 4.9 or 5.4L. I didn't think turbos were added until they ran in Can-Am.

Normally aspirated engines were 4.5 L, then 4.9 L, and 5 L. The turbocharged cars were 5 L and 5.4 L.

There is also the 6.6 L 16 cylinder engine, which was tested but never raced.

The turbocharged cars also ran in the German Interserie championship.

javadog 04-14-2022 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 11665182)
I got the Peter Hinsdale 917 book for Christmas in 1973. 1st Edition. Anyone want it?



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What’s the price?

svandamme 04-14-2022 05:33 AM

beat me to it :D
would go well with my Porsche Sport 72 and Porsche Sport 73 :D

URY914 04-14-2022 05:38 AM

I also have a SUNOCO 917-30 press kit. I was given it by a SUNOCO employee when it was new. She worked at the local distributor and her husband worked for my father. He knew I was a racing car kid and he asked his wife for one for me. I also have some racing news letters that SUNOCO sent out internally. This should bring $$$. ;)

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javadog 04-14-2022 05:39 AM

Probably so. Lots of people still collect Porsche memorabilia.

I’ve had a copy of the Hinsdale book before. You should give it to Stijn, sounds like he’s never had one.

URY914 04-14-2022 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11665184)
What’s the price?

Message me.

svandamme 04-14-2022 05:42 AM

No worries you asked first, saving up for other stuff right now, defo don't give it away , those things have value

javadog 04-14-2022 05:53 AM

Anybody interested in a 917 book should probably start with Peter Morgan’s book, it’s decent value for the money. Gordon Wingrove’s book is better, but more money.


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