WTF is wrong with people???
 

So a client had a Supervisor murdered by an ex-employee a few weeks ago. The ex-employee just asked for Supervisor at the front desk. Cut his throat in front of the building and a good man died.

Yesterday, a client fired an employee for a drug situation. The ex-employee is a hot-headed gun nut who made believable threats. The client is hiring security and running on a skeleton crew for safety.

Tonight? I was supposed to attend a High School graduation in honor of our friend's son who passed during COVID. But, a student is alleged to have made a threatening post against the school. He was then arrested two days in a row for violent crimes. He has just been released.

I am not attending the graduation.

Is this a crazy random thing? I have NEVER had a personal experience with violent crime or the threat of violent crime in all my 56 years. My clients are legitimate and ethically run. The High School is one of the best in the state and sends kids to top-tier colleges each year.

Logic says that the statistics have randomly aligned to produce a series of disturbing events that I am slightly associated with.

Superstition says that the world is broken and everything has gone to ****.

Thoughts?

I see you are near Portland. What has changed in Portland over the past 56 years? do you have faith in local leadership, policing, and if caught, actual prosecution of criminals?

Wow…quite a streak of violence. Have seen nothing like that here. Although there was a triple murder at a gun shop about 30 miles away a few weeks ago.

Portland has BAD homeless and poor leadership currently. It isn't a Portland thing. Different topic altogether...

Seems to me that last sentence is a major part of the problem. How many times have we heard about people being released after threatening behaviour only to carry out their threats. Not tryiing to PARF this.

People have been pissed for quite awhile. But acting and talking like a lunatic has now had the ultimate stamp of approval so nearly anything goes as long as it garners attention.

Can't completely answer without sending
this thread to PARF
but our society has suffered a breakdown
in morality that started about 60 years ago
it is gaining steam and near critical mass

Welcome to 2022! “Progress” ain’t it great!?

Oh! And everyone is crazy. Some just hide it better than others.

The rise and maturation of Hatestream Media delivers a daily dose of hate and fear and victimization to a very broad swath of the American public.

"You aren't where you should be because X and Y are taking what's yours and they're going to take everything over and you will be left with nothing."

People eat it up. And some break. They kill people.

^^^This certainly contributes.

I don't consume ANY television outside of Netflix. And the TV news? Damn. I would rather my children watched porn. "News" is fear-mongering.

But I think the above is more than people being baited into hate / fear.

I wonder if the long COVID situation has broken social bonds and norms. Oregon was far more locked down than most of the country. It messed with people. Maybe more than I realized. And the last two months have had endless rain...

I could tell you, but then this thread would be in PARF

Spoiler alert, it is the second thing

The deal with all the kids going off the deep end has a LOT to do with all the psychotropic drugs they are given.

I don’t know what to say, but I fear for our future.

Here's me after dinner tonight-

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I was born in 1970. Raised in EO on a cattle ranch..Baker City, but it was just called Baker the whole time I lived there, they changed the name while I was away.. Full-on cow town. Graduated in 1989. I went from the Bad News Bears, Smokey and the Bandit, to Buck Rogers and Battlestar Galatica.. I was a teen for MTV and it was a game changer. Arcades ruled. In the hick town I was raised in we for real had our shotguns in our lockers during hunting season. I didn't know anybody who wanted to shoot up the school.

The best I can come up with is this same thing happened in Rome when they started to fall as the super power. Prolly same thing as Britain..blaw blaw the sun never sets on the British empire til it doesn't right? It's important to mention yer age in this as maybe we can narrow down when starts?

Generations after 2009 seem to have really lost it.. I retired in 2009 and 18 year olds then seem fine?-WW

I was born in 1970. Not retired yet. I must have done something wrong :)

+1 This was predicted a long long time ago.

fify

How do you think I feel, born in 65.

My company will not do travel to Portland or Seattle (King county) without exception of a senior VP now.

edit: we have other cities blocked off as well.

We spent last weekend in Portland as we’re trekking around the pnw for a couple weeks. Homelessness was bad but only marginally worse than I’ve seen in Houston or other big US cities. The majority of these people just seem crazy. Not sure why it’s worse. Did we used to just lock them all up in hospitals? If so, I guess that’s not affordable anymore.

I do wonder if it’s worse or do we just know about it more. I’ve know some otherwise good people do some really bad things in my 55 years on earth and some bad things I know family members did before I was born so it’s not all recent.

The difference is that we tolerate bad behavior now...and in many cases, encourage it (or our government forces us to do so through bad policy/decisions).

There are pictures of the Pacific north that look post apolitical. Portland house prices are down 10%, King county is following.

The way I feel, they beat a physical, normal humans life-time, into a short 20 year military career:D. So some genius figured out twenty years and out, and the loonies can go 30 years but they need to be on a bench just yellin'...don't matter what branch. Plus if you run off in the face of the enemy you are supposed to get shot to death by your shipmates ("Shot at dawn" look it up you if you haven't been thru boot ) . Don't think even the cops have to worry about that. So you age fast if you are sketchy and prone to flight instead of flght.-WW

We are for the first time in 10 years, preparing contingencies for an active shooter. This includes a LOT of training. Constant training and a lot of courses.

Well if your screenname is an indicator of your MOS then 20 is more than enough.

Pretty heart breaking...makes me sick.

“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”

Same song, different day...love that So-crates dude he knew stuff-WW

Update. Graduation happened without a hitch. Nice.

I think Covid has people just a little more off balance than before. There is a cumulative effect somehow. Social removal makes us all de-evolve a bit.

:DSurfman here fella...a$$ I drove tiny boats in huge storms yer mom would'a just clutched her pearls...possibly...I knew some ba female boat drivers...LOL. Plus Wetwork was actually for the first time, admitted on this site, in front of God and everyone my favorite comic book. Was polly the best comic series every drawn and written.-WW

Discipline and respect are missing.

We have failed our youth.

Add in psych meds, violent video games and access to weapons. The 18 year old man boy had $7500+ in gear! Wtf! Where did the $$$ come from

Also, entitlement.

Too many unsuccessful people think someone did them dirty so they are owed something.
Too many successful people think someone is doing them dirty so someone owes them more.
Too many formerly successful people think nothing should ever change including themselves--the loudest and most insufferable of all.

This issue is not confined to entitled youth and liberal viewpoints. I am currently dealing with a situation at the opposite end of that spectrum. I'll leave it at that.

Is there such a metal detector that it can determine mass or volume of metal that passes through it? One that keys and even a wrench wouldn't set off but a pistol would.

I'm not sure if such a thing is even possible but I think it would help alert staff (silently, like a light) if one were set off by someone walking into one of your stores with something metal and big.

Could not agree more^^^in reference to my recent post about "quiting" any news TV or online. I'm already noticing a difference in my mood^^^

It's a complex issue but in simplest terms, I think the trifecta of media's monetization of hate, COVID and the rise of conspiracy theory culture has broken the concept of reality for many people.

I have ran a manufacturing plant for 30 years, we hire at the low end of the spectrum. I have dealt with 1 murderer (removed wifes head with a butcher knife) 1 mass murderer / suicide (shot her three kids and then shot herself) 1 stabbing (stabbed his pregnant girlfriend in the stomach) 1 arsonist (burnt his girlfriends house down) 1 Black trench coat (white) guy (had to have security for myself and staff) and countless slugfests for which I have several on video (the ones that happened inside the plant) Also several folks who have been witnesses to shootings or have been shot themselves.
So to say this is a recent phenomenon, I say no. Its been here all along I just think most folks have never actually been exposed to it.
This country has HUGE mental health problems.....and we do nothing about it.

Visited Daytona Beach FL two weeks ago and it looked like a scene from end times. Awful place littered with passed out addicts holding needles.

It's much harder to hide these days with everyone walking around with cameras, the media, and social media.

There have always been crazy people. But now there are more people, so there are more crazy people.

I'm another 70 vintage, also not retired. Military retirement is different from private sector.

Exactly. Lots of crazy homeless folks everywhere. In Houston, they are here, but more spread out as Houston is very spread out.

And yes, there's always been bad stuff going on.

Retirement is OVER RATED!!!
:)