Good idea is not so good.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by zakthor

You could keep the current build using pulleys. cable and a cam, then equalize with weight. It is possible to build it so it moves with a pound of force and won't slam down when you release it.

You need a cam because the force needed to lift the door increases as the door goes higher. And it needs to compensate for the changing angle from the cable to where it attaches at bottom of the door.

But you gotta find someone to draw the cam for you...

It is neat that math can work around such a stupid design - how did you think it would work?

There is a handle on the bottom of the door, canst see because the ladder is in the way. When fully open that handle lines up perfectly vertical with the 3rd stringer out from the house.

I'd mount the winch on the inside face of that stringer. The hinge for the door will be lower than the winch so I think there shouldn't be an issue with the angle. I'll rig up a quick simple pully and rope and validate by hand.

So the idea is winch operated by remote. Lower cable, attach to handle, open it, winch holds it open, when done lower it, unhook cable, retract cable into rafter so it's not visible when not in use.

[zakthor]

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey

There is a handle on the bottom of the door, canst see because the ladder is in the way. When fully open that handle lines up perfectly vertical with the 3rd stringer out from the house.

I'd mount the winch on the inside face of that stringer. The hinge for the door will be lower than the winch so I think there shouldn't be an issue with the angle. I'll rig up a quick simple pully and rope and validate by hand.

So the idea is winch operated by remote. Lower cable, attach to handle, open it, winch holds it open, when done lower it, unhook cable, retract cable into rafter so it's not visible when not in use.

Wouldn't you like to forgo a winch, just have a weight balanced system like how old window sash weights worked? If you got the weight and cam shape correct you could have it so the pulley friction held the door in place. Put a wood handle over the cable with crimps on either end and you could open/close naturally.

[Z-man]

First off, I love your setup, and your way of thinking about this.

Secondly, you know you are in a forums filled with Porsche enthusiasts when you get three pages discussing how to over-engineer a complex solution to a simple problem!

Carry on, and I am looking forward to your final solution, with the required video of the cover opening and closing...

[masraum]

I'm pretty sure the best solution is some Decepticon technology!

[rusnak]

You could just adapt some junkyard Macan clamshell hood hinges and use gas struts to open the door. To close, you can use a pole to attach a pull rope to the bottom of the door. A simple catch will keep it closed.

[vmax]

Something like this small anchor winch could work for this.
https://www.amazon.com/Electric-Saltwater-Windlass-Wireless-Control/dp/B09J4STWYT/ref=asc_df_B09J4STWYT/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=564689193088&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10826547826781119649&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9022636&hvtargid=pla-1570095292539&psc=1

[rusnak]

Thinking about it more, I would just go with gas struts and get out the ladder to close it.

There are roll-up options with single touch remote though:
https://www.rollashield.com/outdoor-tv-cabinets/

[Z-man]

Since the TV is set rather high, you should also install an arm that can extend and lower via remote control. Extra points if you get the TV to spin 360's as it comes out of its 'garage'

You will also want to add hidden surround speakers (SONOS) around your sitting area that pop-up when the TV opens.

Have you decided what your inaugural movie will be? I would suggest something like LeMans, Grand Prix, or Ford vs. Ferrari.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by rusnak

Thinking about it more, I would just go with gas struts and get out the ladder to close it.

There are roll-up options with single touch remote though:
https://www.rollashield.com/outdoor-tv-cabinets/

My guess is that it'll get closed 5% as frequently if a ladder is required than if not.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Z-man

Since the TV is set rather high, you should also install an arm that can extend and lower via remote control. Extra points if you get the TV to spin 360's as it comes out of its 'garage'

You will also want to add hidden surround speakers (SONOS) around your sitting area that pop-up when the TV opens.

Have you decided what your inaugural movie will be? I would suggest something like LeMans, Grand Prix, or Ford vs. Ferrari.

Good call on all of the above.

My vote is to make the inauguration a marathon of all of the above, then add Rush, and at the end, Days of Thunder, Wraith, and Corvette Summer.

[A930Rocket]

Gas struts on either side to open it.

Use a dowel with a hook on it to bring it down.

Manually latch it in the closed position

[rusnak]

Originally Posted by masraum

My guess is that it'll get closed 5% as frequently if a ladder is required than if not.

Maybe the box can be built so the TV just drops down out of it, with a hinged bottom?

https://www.tvlift.com/tv-lifts/drop-down-tv-lifts/

[Z-man]

Originally Posted by rusnak

Maybe the box can be built so the TV just drops down out of it, with a hinged bottom?

https://www.tvlift.com/tv-lifts/drop-down-tv-lifts/

^ this. Elegant, simple, and you can hide all the mechanicals within the box.

But I would still want to see it rotate around just for effect.

[rusnak]

Originally Posted by Z-man

^ this. Elegant, simple, and you can hide all the mechanicals within the box.

But I would still want to see it rotate around just for effect.

It does spin, but the wall would have to be coved to allow that. OTOH, the box can be built in to the roof overhang structre. There is a swing-down model too.

[rusnak]

^ Thinking about it even more, the box can be mounted to tracks so it can slide outward from the wall, allowing the drop down mount to spin around. That would be my choice, actually.

[stomachmonkey]

Buy, you guys sure do like spending other peoples money, LOL

[Baz]

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey

Buy, you guys sure do like spending other peoples money, LOL

Plus reading comprehension not the greatest.

You want something your better half can use.

A remote operated pulley system.

Got it - (about 15 posts ago)....

Carry on and look forward to your updates!

[stomachmonkey]

Maybe this belongs in a "Why Men Hoard Things" thread or the craigslist garage sale thread.

Sitting here googling various winch systems, bare AC motors, pulley parts and I remembered something I'd gotten from a neighbor a couple of years back.

Brand new in box never used. My wife asked "what are you going to do with that?"

Well maybe I now have an answer.

All the parts I need are there and can be manually operated right away and later I can add a standard wall mounted hand crank or a motor and pulley if that even becomes necessary.

[herr_oberst]

Won't a canoe block the TV?

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by Z-man

Since the TV is set rather high, you should also install an arm that can extend and lower via remote control. Extra points if you get the TV to spin 360's as it comes out of its 'garage'

You will also want to add hidden surround speakers (SONOS) around your sitting area that pop-up when the TV opens.

Have you decided what your inaugural movie will be? I would suggest something like LeMans, Grand Prix, or Ford vs. Ferrari.

It's intentionally high for visibility. Think TV in sports bar. It'll be on a wall mount that extends, tilts, swivels.

Have BT Rock speaker sets for the yard already. The brand will daisy chain up to 99 individual speakers.

Since it has a clear view from the jacuzzi probably be used mostly for Football and porn.