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herr_oberst 07-31-2022 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11757605)
They give “graphic video warning” after they’ve already shown the accident…

Yeah, you gotta watch to the end to see why they posted that warning. Yugghhh.

javadog 07-31-2022 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 11757625)
Yeah, you gotta watch to the end to see why they posted that warning. Yugghhh.

Well, if it got worse, I am not interested. I saw all I needed to see when the moron wrecked the car. He did everything wrong and nothing right.

speeder 07-31-2022 09:58 AM

Wow...I don't know where to start on this one. I understand the normal tendency to react incorrectly in a panic situation, (especially without training), but the idiocy on display here is mind-blowing.

He gave up two marriages and 23 years on that POS?? It would not be worth that if it was an alloy Gullwing or a 917. Seriously...and I say this as an absolute OCD car nut since I was 6 years old...hobbies are not ever worth that. Extreme hobbies are a way to efficiently get from being young and full of promise to old, grey and completely lacking any meaningful experiences in life. I'm not talking about liking cars and having fun with them but rather guys who spend decades, "building a car," especially when it seems like it was engineered by chimps, like this one. What a loser, poor guy. He truly missed the point of being alive, IMO.

Moving on from that and back to the car, what a POS. A truly undriveable POS. Not a drag car, not street safe car even if he had not crashed it and about 1000 HP more than that chassis could handle. 300 hp and a good running motor might actually be fun to drive in an old Comet, still a big no thanks from me.

What a waste, on so many levels. :(

speeder 07-31-2022 10:01 AM

Also, that episode could have been a lot worse. Picture a woman pushing a stroller through a crosswalk or a young family on bicycles with small children following mom and dad...what that guy did was criminal.

At least he was smart enough to film the whole thing and put it on the internet. The lawyers must be laughing their dicks off.

masraum 07-31-2022 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 11757625)
Yeah, you gotta watch to the end to see why they posted that warning. Yugghhh.

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Originally Posted by javadog (Post 11757639)
Well, if it got worse, I am not interested. I saw all I needed to see when the moron wrecked the car. He did everything wrong and nothing right.

The passenger bit the dash and had a pretty knarly looking mouth. They showed pics.

masraum 07-31-2022 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Baz (Post 11757354)
What surprised me is no mention of any injury to the mini-van occupant(s). Maybe because of legal reasons they couldn't but that was on my mind throughout the whole thing.

Also, no emergency brake? Why?

And over $200K? That car didn't even look all that great, IMHO. My stock 850 Volvo wagon looks better.....:)

Anyway - thanks for the vid and thread, HO....the stuff that's out there......

Exactly, there are aftermarket disk brake kits that include parking brakes. If you get rid of the parking brake, you're a moron.
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Originally Posted by slow&rusty (Post 11757424)
What's crazy, is he threw the shifter into park breaking the pin, he should have downshifted, utilized the engine braking and killed the ignition to drop his speed a few mph to lessen the impact.

By leaving the car running, with the throttle sticking, that huge displacement WITH a blower is puling the car along even at 1200rpm.

The YT comments are savage! (rightly so).

Admittingly, I can't throw rocks from my glass house, as I have taken some chances over the years in some sketchy cars, but none had 1,300hp!

I was wondering the same, downshift, even into first which might if the tranny had the right mods, result in the rear tires locking up and the car spinning (which would have been a good thing compared to what they did).

In a panic situation, it's tough for a lot of folks to keep their cool. But this guy seemed to have enough time to have tried a bunch of stuff.

"I smell brakes." "Yeah, I've been riding them." WTF?!? Boiled brake fluid will kick your sheiße!

RANDY P 07-31-2022 10:41 AM

I wonder what the tab is to repair that thing- and I agree with Denis (gasp!) on all points.

I like cars, a lot, in fact it's my identity but no ****ing way would I put myself into a hole that deep with one car.

I like old, garage built stuff- scratches the itch, and saves the bank account.

Baz 07-31-2022 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RANDY P (Post 11757598)
---snip---it's actually a 1970 LeMans-built 455 Pontiac TH350 Trans and 12 Bolt rear, all built. Had it forever, and now finally getting around to doing serious stuff to it. ---snip---

Ah - my mistake. Beautiful machine though - appears to be well-preserved. Those late 60 early 70 cars were some of the best ever designed aesthetically speaking, IMHO.

Good luck with the restorations/upgrades and please share with us as appropriate, sir! SmileWavy

matthewb0051 07-31-2022 11:46 AM

The brake rotors on my 2010 Land Rover LR4 (Discovery 4) are about 3 times the size. Even if something didn't brake, you are taking a huge risk with that weight and power and puny tiny brakes.

HobieMarty 07-31-2022 02:22 PM

Rule #1, if ya build it to go fast, ya gotta make sure it's gonna stop fast also.

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Baz 07-31-2022 02:51 PM

One of the upgrades I did for my '81 SC in preparation for track events was a full set of 951 Brembos all around with calipers, rotors, pads, 951 Fuchs, and even cooling ducts for the fronts....stopping was not a problem on that car!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1659307713.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1659307713.jpg

speeder 07-31-2022 04:31 PM

The bigger/better the brakes are, the faster I feel comfortable going in a vehicle. Very simple equation.

The more that I think about this moron idling at 50 mph and riding the brakes, the madder I get. Just luck that he didn’t kill someone.

herr_oberst 07-31-2022 04:56 PM

I remember (years ago) a story in Auto Week; Andy Granatelli had taken one of his Indycar turbine engines and put it into a Corvette, and the effect was the same as this chump - low speed was controlled by the brakes, not a throttle. Andy's probably lucky he didn't kill someone either, but who knows. Maybe he had a kill switch handy.

(And this guy should have had a kill switch handy.)

ted 07-31-2022 05:25 PM

This might of helped. :rolleyes:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1659316908.jpg

A930Rocket 07-31-2022 06:00 PM

How did they settle it with the car they hit, that they could post this idiotic video?

I was driving a 911 one time and the throttle got stuck. I quickly turned off the engine and coasted to the side of the road. Somehow the cruise control or throttle cable came loose.

john70t 07-31-2022 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 11757908)
(And this guy should have had a kill switch handy.)

Something like this.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1659322365.jpg

That "I'm riding the brakes" was a clue about two miles back.

fintstone 07-31-2022 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RANDY P (Post 11757576)
The 1st 5 seconds of that video made my ass pucker.

That is my ultimate nightmare, and the reason I have basically a doorspring on my throttle cable on my Pontiac.

Hard to see in this pic, but I drilled the giant, overbuilt alternator bracket for attachment and used a very stiff dual spring setup- and it's attached in such a way (in line with throttle cable) so there's no excessive load on the throttle shaft, preventing eventual wear.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1659284294.jpg

I had a 68 Lemans back in the 70's. I got a good deal and it was almost like a new car. I bought it on time (no interest) from my Mom's boss who let me make monthly payments. I had only driven it a few times when I drove it to high school for the first time. I cut class and took a friend out for a drive. We were on a dirt road doing about 5 mi/hr hour and like an idiot, I goosed it a little. I was not used to such a powerful engine and it surprised me by the back end coming around a little. The throttle stuck (at least I think it did...but have always wondered if I panicked and had one foot on the gas and one on the brake with both on the floor). I could not keep it from going into the small ditch beside the road. It was totaled (as they were not worth that much)...and I only had liability insurance. It messed up the frame and broke the windshield.

I sold the car for parts and had to make payments for many months while I walked (could not afford another car). It was the second car I wrecked in about a month in a single car accident...so I guess it was a good way to learn my lesson. Apparently, I needed to be walking.

I have had a couple of other wrecks over the next 45 years (where the car was totaled) ...but, none were my fault. In each case, the person that hit me made a really stupid mistake...so I find it hard to really dump on the poor guy in the video accident (as apparently, mistakes are pretty common...or there would not be so many used parts out there in junkyards).

Bill Douglas 08-01-2022 12:01 AM

The lawyers are going to love this one.


I can't believe there is not some sort of state inspection they have to pass before a car like this can be driven on the road. Sure fun for the guy playing cars but not very nice for everyone else on the road.

Cairo94507 08-01-2022 06:25 AM

Man, that was hard to watch - knowing what was coming. I feel sorry for them both. I am still shocked they both chose not to use the shoulder belts. I have the factory lap/shoulder belts in my '71 914-6 and this has me rethinking adding better seat/lap belts.

stevej37 08-01-2022 06:29 AM

^^^ I felt more sorry for the occupants of the vehicles he took out.


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