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herr_oberst 07-30-2022 08:43 PM

More red flags than the Chinese Navy
 
Not my line, but spot-on.

Driver of this car was a total lunkhead. And the people writing in the comments are mostly in agreement.

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Baz 07-30-2022 09:01 PM

What surprised me is no mention of any injury to the mini-van occupant(s). Maybe because of legal reasons they couldn't but that was on my mind throughout the whole thing.

Also, no emergency brake? Why?

And over $200K? That car didn't even look all that great, IMHO. My stock 850 Volvo wagon looks better.....:)

Anyway - thanks for the vid and thread, HO....the stuff that's out there......

smadsen 07-30-2022 09:02 PM

A lesson I've learned over time: Every time something bad has happens, the event is usually preceded by one, two or three bad decisions in quick succession. It always becomes crystal clear in the postmortem. The ability to recognize those bad decisions BEFORE an "event" might be called wisdom.

aigel 07-30-2022 11:36 PM

"Pro Street"! That's definitely where this problem started. Oversized engine in an over-restored chassis that's trailered to the car show and never driven, leave alone tracked.

slow&rusty 07-31-2022 03:02 AM

What's crazy, is he threw the shifter into park breaking the pin, he should have downshifted, utilized the engine braking and killed the ignition to drop his speed a few mph to lessen the impact.

By leaving the car running, with the throttle sticking, that huge displacement WITH a blower is puling the car along even at 1200rpm.

The YT comments are savage! (rightly so).

Admittingly, I can't throw rocks from my glass house, as I have taken some chances over the years in some sketchy cars, but none had 1,300hp!

Seahawk 07-31-2022 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smadsen (Post 11757355)
A lesson I've learned over time: Every time something bad has happens, the event is usually preceded by one, two or three bad decisions in quick succession. It always becomes crystal clear in the postmortem. The ability to recognize those bad decisions BEFORE an "event" might be called wisdom.

No truer words...

Quote:

Originally Posted by slow&rusty (Post 11757424)
Admittingly, I can't throw rocks from my glass house, as I have taken some chances over the years in some sketchy cars, but none had 1,300hp!

That is where I am on these type of videos...I just got lucky and thankfully never hurt anyone.

Going fast is the easy part...

Dantilla 07-31-2022 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smadsen (Post 11757355)
A lesson I've learned over time: Every time something bad has happens, the event is usually preceded by one, two or three bad decisions in quick succession. It always becomes crystal clear in the postmortem. The ability to recognize those bad decisions BEFORE an "event" might be called wisdom.

In aviation circles, this is called "breaking the accident chain".

Like you said, a series of minor decisions adding up to an unfortunate event.
Eliminate even one, and perhaps we prevent a pile of bent metal.

GG Allin 07-31-2022 05:12 AM

There's a great 66 Mustang on that channel. If I were to build a Shelby clone, that's how I'd do it.

pavulon 07-31-2022 05:53 AM

Also, Autotopia Shaun...ughh.

herr_oberst 07-31-2022 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 11757470)
No truer words...



I just got lucky and thankfully never hurt anyone.

Yeah, I've got a few episodes in my sordid past that still give me the willies.

creaturecat 07-31-2022 06:16 AM

i "overwheelied" my Kawasaki 750 triple 2 stroke, with the mayor's kid on/off the back.
i was fortunate - i surfed on top of Rocky 'til we came to a stop, at the curb.
Rocky (aka pebbles) still has a bit of a limp - 50 years later.

masraum 07-31-2022 06:33 AM

Interesting. I'd previously seen a really short excerpt of that video, basically, the guy gunning it and then panicking and then the crash, but no before or after or anything else. When I was a kid, I did stoplight drags in more populous areas in a car with 4 wheel drum brakes that I probably should have gone through completely, but did not. Fortunately, the car was not that fast, and as said, I always got lucky. As a matter of fact, I remember racing one of the teachers from my school once, and thinking back now, I can't believe he took part.

Fortunately, I've gotten smarter, more experienced, and more cautious as an adult.

Those guys were maroons.

stomachmonkey 07-31-2022 08:06 AM

BTDT

My buddy and I built a 440 66' GTX for my brother as a wedding gift.

He used to keep the car at my place.

I'm mowing the lawn one day and run out of gas.

Decide I'll take the GTX as it hadn't been driven in a bit.

So there I am, with a full 5 gallon metal gas can between my legs heading home and decide to goose it.

Well, accelerator gets stuck WOT and I'm coming up on stopped traffic at a light in a real hurry.

Pretty much same thing, **** **** **** oh ****.

I kill the ignition and managed to slam it into park and lock up the rear and it comes squealing to a halt.

Got it home, changed my shorts, called my buddy and told him "that sticky throttle issue we've been having, yeah we need to fix that sooner than later"

RANDY P 07-31-2022 08:20 AM

The 1st 5 seconds of that video made my ass pucker.

That is my ultimate nightmare, and the reason I have basically a doorspring on my throttle cable on my Pontiac.

Hard to see in this pic, but I drilled the giant, overbuilt alternator bracket for attachment and used a very stiff dual spring setup- and it's attached in such a way (in line with throttle cable) so there's no excessive load on the throttle shaft, preventing eventual wear.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1659284294.jpg

Baz 07-31-2022 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RANDY P (Post 11757576)
---snip--- on my Pontiac. ---snip---

That is a GREAT LOOKING GTO, Randy! LOVE the colour!

Back to the incident in the OP......can anyone tell me exactly what failed on the brake system? I know the pads were wearing badly from the in cockpit remarks (the smell comments).

But it appears the brake pedal went to the floor.

As if no more fluid or no more master cylinder or brake cylinder function.

Curious what exactly "broke"...

ted 07-31-2022 08:37 AM

The car is/was made for the wheel dyno.
It was never designed to turn or stop.

RANDY P 07-31-2022 08:39 AM

Thanks Baz!

I wish it was a GTO, but it's actually a 1970 LeMans-built 455 Pontiac TH350 Trans and 12 Bolt rear, all built. Had it forever, and now finally getting around to doing serious stuff to it.

In a few days, <strike>we</strike> someone else is going to rip out the electrical, rewire and do new Vintage Air AC

Then, eventually an interior.

Pics of dusty car

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1659285371.JPG
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herr_oberst 07-31-2022 08:41 AM

Maybe the fluid boiled, (most likely in my estimation), maybe the pads wore to the point where there was too much pedal travel, maybe the balance was off and only one rear brake was working properly and just decided enough was enough. The car cost 200 grand to build; he should have spent 205,000 and upgraded those tiny, obsolete wilwoods to something capable of bringing 1300 hp to a stop.

javadog 07-31-2022 08:48 AM

Whoever edited the video is also a moron. They give “graphic video warning” after they’ve already shown the accident…

Really? That’s the best you can do?

SCadaddle 07-31-2022 09:05 AM

Uncle Tony breaks it down for us.



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